Báyò Akómoláfé doesn’t speak of rules or external frameworks when he talks about ethics. Poetic and provocative, he speaks of a yearning, longing, and being spirited away. Beautifully paired with Laura François's episode, who speaks of systems-feeling, Báyò also questions how systems-thinking tends towards control and objectivity. And, like me, is suspicious of value-driven endeavours. For this episode, my dad and I chose an atonal piece. We foist this uncomfortable piece upon you with love, hoping you might be jostled. Use it, if you will, as a 6 minute practice in awkward discomfort. -- Báyò Akómoláfé (Ph.D.), rooted with the Yoruba people in a more-than-human world, is the father to Alethea and Kyah, the grateful life-partner to Ije, son and brother. A widely celebrated international speaker, post-humanist thinker, poet, teacher, public intellectual, essayist, and author of three books, Selah, These Wilds Beyond our Fences: Letters to My Daughter on Humanity’s Search for Home, and We Will Tell our Own Story: The Lions of Africa Speak. Báyò is the founder of The Emergence Network, and has taught at institutions including Middlebury College, Schumacher College, and UC Berkeley’s Othering & Belonging Institute. He is the Hubert H. Humphrey Distinguished Professor of American Studies at Macalester College (USA), the Inaugural W.E.B. Du Bois Scholar in Residence at the Schumacher Center for a New Economics (USA), the Distinguished Fellow of Instituto Toriba (Brazil), an Ambassador for the Wellbeing Economy Alliance and a member of the Club of Rome. -- If you’re interested in how this relates to technology ethics, check out my work with WaySeeing Ethics Get full access to STIRRINGS at madelaineley.substack.com/subscribe