STIRRINGS w/ Madelaine Ley

Madelaine Ley

Intellectually promiscuous conversations devoted to possibility. Join Madelaine Ley as she traverses philosophy, technology, ecology, science, politics, and contemplative practice. Sometimes with guests, sometimes without. madelaineley.substack.com

Episodes

  1. S01.06B: YOU CAN'T SCHEDULE THE CRACKS w/ Báyò Akómoláfé

    2d ago

    S01.06B: YOU CAN'T SCHEDULE THE CRACKS w/ Báyò Akómoláfé

    Báyò Akómoláfé doesn’t speak of rules or external frameworks when he talks about ethics. Poetic and provocative, he speaks of a yearning, longing, and being spirited away. Beautifully paired with Laura François's episode, who speaks of systems-feeling, Báyò also questions how systems-thinking tends towards control and objectivity. And, like me, is suspicious of value-driven endeavours. For this episode, my dad and I chose an atonal piece. We foist this uncomfortable piece upon you with love, hoping you might be jostled. Use it, if you will, as a 6 minute practice in awkward discomfort. -- Báyò Akómoláfé (Ph.D.), rooted with the Yoruba people in a more-than-human world, is the father to Alethea and Kyah, the grateful life-partner to Ije, son and brother. A widely celebrated international speaker, post-humanist thinker, poet, teacher, public intellectual, essayist, and author of three books, Selah, These Wilds Beyond our Fences: Letters to My Daughter on Humanity’s Search for Home, and We Will Tell our Own Story: The Lions of Africa Speak. Báyò is the founder of The Emergence Network, and has taught at institutions including Middlebury College, Schumacher College, and UC Berkeley’s Othering & Belonging Institute. He is the Hubert H. Humphrey Distinguished Professor of American Studies at Macalester College (USA), the Inaugural W.E.B. Du Bois Scholar in Residence at the Schumacher Center for a New Economics (USA), the Distinguished Fellow of Instituto Toriba (Brazil), an Ambassador for the Wellbeing Economy Alliance and a member of the Club of Rome. -- If you’re interested in how this relates to technology ethics, check out my work with WaySeeing Ethics Get full access to STIRRINGS at madelaineley.substack.com/subscribe

    58 min
  2. S01.06A: WE FEEL SYSTEMS w/ Laura François

    2d ago

    S01.06A: WE FEEL SYSTEMS w/ Laura François

    Laura François and I talk about moving from fear-based motivation to awe-inspired change, systems-feeling in addition to systems-thinking, trusting your heebie-jeebies, and moving from a days of prediction to a life of noticing. For the music, my father and I chose a piece called “Distant Thunder”. This spacey meditative vibe should entice you into feeling into the atmospheric weather systems. -- Laura François is a socio-environmental impact strategist, facilitator, and systems thinker with over a decade of experience designing emotionally resonant interventions at the intersection of sustainability, creativity, and collective change. She is the director of Awe Exchange, a nonprofit laboratory pioneering awe-based changemaking as an antidote to siloed, linear thinking about our climate emergency. Through Awe Exchange, she is developing Systems Feeling — a felt, relational approach to systems thinking that helps changemakers metabolize complexity, navigate uncertainty, and lead with wonder. Laura is also a co-founder of anewkind, a studio supporting businesses and organizations to ground their impact in regeneration. Her work spans global campaigns, cross-cultural facilitation, and the development of curricula that translate sustainability frameworks into lived, collective action. She co-founded The Spaceship, a program supporting first-time impact entrepreneurs, and served as Country Director of Fashion Revolution in Malaysia and Singapore. -- Learn more about my technology ethics work here: WaySeeing.ca Get full access to STIRRINGS at madelaineley.substack.com/subscribe

    1h 17m
  3. S01.04B THE TRICKSTER AND THE MIDWIFE w/ Minna Salami

    May 19

    S01.04B THE TRICKSTER AND THE MIDWIFE w/ Minna Salami

    Minna’s work reminds us that there are so many ways of knowing. Separating them, creating hierarchies, and ultimately controlling our myriad knowledges is an example of what Minna calls superiorism. We’ll talk about all this in the episode, as well as her kaleidoscopic method (or “non-method method”) and how 2026 is the year of the midwife. Minna Salami is a Nigerian-Finnish and Swedish author and cultural critic, and formerly senior fellow and programme chair at The New Institute. Her books Feminist Freedom: An African Vision (Cornell University Press 2026) and Sensuous Knowledge: A Black Feminist Approach for Everyone (Bloomsbury 2020) have been translated into multiple languages. She was the creative director of the short film Black Feminism and the Polycrisis, which won a 2024 Lovie Award. A leading voice of contemporary feminism, she has drawn over a million readers to her multiple award-winning blog MsAfropolitan.com which she ran from 2010 – 2025. She now has a fantastic Substack, Kaleido: The Europatriarchy Files. As for the music, my dad (Bruce Ley) and I picked an abstract piano meditation for this conversation. It dips into familiar territories from time to time, but never quite settles. The movement and hopping around feels kaleidoscopic. -- Work with Madelaine on technology ethics through WaySeeing Ethics at wayseeing.ca Get full access to STIRRINGS at madelaineley.substack.com/subscribe

    1h 11m

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Intellectually promiscuous conversations devoted to possibility. Join Madelaine Ley as she traverses philosophy, technology, ecology, science, politics, and contemplative practice. Sometimes with guests, sometimes without. madelaineley.substack.com

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