You Can Be Both

Lauren Lanzaretta

You Can Be Both is hosted by singer/songwriter Lauren Lanzaretta, who shares honest conversations about being both gay and Christian—two identities often seen as incompatible. The podcast creates space for LGBTQ+ people of faith to find healing, community, and a deeper connection with Christ while fully embracing who they are. As a first step to your healing journey, I recommend the “LGBTQ+ Healing & Resource Guide” - go to www.youcanbeboth.com for this and other resources. Join the You Can Be Both Community App https://youcanbeboth.mn.co/plans/1984569?bundle_token=a02f1c1a95e905aa187210545

  1. 2d ago

    What Every Christian Parent Should Do When Their Child Comes Out As LGBTQ+

    What should Christian parents do when their child comes out as gay, transgender, or nonbinary? In this deeply personal episode of You Can Be Both, Lauren sits down with Shari Bruck—a mother of two LGBTQ+ children—to discuss faith deconstruction, religious fear, unconditional love, and what it truly means to support your child. Raised in a strict Catholic family, Shari grew up surrounded by religious shame, guilt, patriarchy, and the belief that there was only one acceptable path to God. As she began questioning those teachings, she developed a spirituality rooted not in fear or control, but in love, curiosity, acceptance, and our shared humanity. Years later, both of Shari’s children came out—Taylor as gay and Riley as LGBTQ+, gender-nonconforming, and using they/them pronouns. Shari shares honestly about what came naturally, what required learning, the mistakes she has made, and why parents do not need to understand everything about their child’s identity in order to love and respect them. This conversation explores: • How parents should respond when their child comes out • Why being LGBTQ+ is not a choice • Learning to use they/them pronouns • Supporting a nonbinary or gender-nonconforming child • Deconstructing harmful religious beliefs • The damage caused by shame, rejection, and religious fear • Why rejecting your LGBTQ child will not change who they are • Finding chosen family when your biological family does not accept you • Choosing love even when you do not fully understand As Shari powerfully explains, your child is still the same person you have always known and loved. Coming out does not change them—it allows you to know them more honestly and deeply. “You’re not going to pray the gay away. You’re not going to ostracize the gay away.” For every Christian parent struggling to understand their LGBTQ+ child, this episode offers a simple place to begin: pause, listen, ask questions, keep your heart open, and default to love. If your family has rejected you because of your sexuality or gender identity, please remember: you are worthy of love, you are not alone, and there are people who will accept you exactly as you are. Join the You Can Be Both Community: YouCanBeBoth.com Subscribe for honest conversations about LGBTQ+ identity, Christianity, faith deconstruction, religious trauma, healing, inclusion, and discovering that you truly can be both. CHAPTERS: 00:00 Meet Shari Bruck 00:43 Growing up in strict Catholicism 02:38 Deconstructing religion and redefining spirituality 07:31 Creating a home where children feel safe 10:24 When Taylor came out as gay 15:16 Loving LGBTQ children without shame 23:50 Learning about nonbinary identity and they/them pronouns 31:19 Why parents should “default to love” 36:05 How to respond when your child comes out 40:37 Religious fear versus your child’s truth 45:08 Accepting yourself and finding chosen family 48:29 Let love be your guiding principle #LGBTQChristian #ChristianParents #YouCanBeBoth

  2. Jul 12

    How This Black Baptist Pastor Became an LGBTQ Advocate | Deconstructing Homophobia

    In this powerful conversation, Lauren Lanzaretta interviews Pastor Kristian Smith—a straight, fifth-generation Baptist preacher and fierce LGBTQ+ advocate—about his journey from embedded homophobia to becoming one of the most vocal allies in the Black church community. Kristian shares how a simple question asked in seminary—"Did you choose your sexuality?"—completely transformed his theology. He discusses why so much homophobia is rooted in sexual discomfort, the importance of visibility in Black and queer communities, and what real allyship looks like in 2026. This is a must-watch for anyone seeking to understand intersectional faith, spirituality, and justice. About Kristian Smith: Public theologian, digital pastor, author of "Breaking All the Rules" and "Question Your Answers: A Deconstruction Survival Guide." Host of the Holy Smokes Cigar and Spirituality Podcast. Master's of Divinity from Mercer University's McAfee School of Theology. YOU CAN BE BOTH PODCAST: A faith-rooted, justice-centered conversation space for LGBTQ+ people and allies. Join Lauren Lanzaretta as she talks faith, identity, and what it means to be authentically yourself. CONNECT WITH US: 🌐 YouCanBeBoth.com 📱 Instagram: @youcanbeboth| @Lanzaretta ▶️ YouTube: SUBSCRIBE :) 🎵 TikTok: @youcanbeebothpodcast FOLLOW KRISTIAN SMITH: 📱 Instagram: @kristianasmith BOOK -- Breaking All The Rules: An Ancient Framework for Modern Faith: https://amzn.to/4f6XO6z

  3. Jun 28

    Supporting Pride Month ISN'T Anti-Christian—It's the MOST Christian Thing You Can Do | Pride Month Explained

    Pride Month isn't about celebration. It's about survival. Lauren Lanzaretta breaks down the hard truth about why LGBTQ people need Pride Month in 2026. And why the criticism, the bills, the "Straight Pride Month" debate, and the political weaponization of trans people prove we need it now more than ever. THE FACTS: 10+ countries execute people for being gay60+ countries criminalize same-sex relationships27 U.S. states can still legally fire you for being LGBTQ (despite federal protections, there are loopholes)36% of LGBTQ youth seriously considered suicide last year800+ anti-LGBTQ bills were introduced in 2025 alone THE REALITY: LGBTQ+ people are kicked out of their homes by families. They're rejected by churches. They're targeted by politicians. They're assaulted in the streets. And yet, somehow, they're told to apologize for existing. This is why we need Pride. Not as a party. As a lifeline. Lauren discusses the systemic oppression, the cultural warfare, the spiritual battle, and what Jesus actually calls us to do: love radically. Not judge. Not exclude. Love. If you're LGBTQ+, you deserve to know you're not alone. If you're an ally, you need to understand what real solidarity looks like. If you're a person of faith, this will challenge everything you thought you knew about loving your neighbor. WATCH THIS IF: You're struggling with your identity You've been rejected by your church or family You want to understand why Pride Month matters You're an ally seeking to do better You believe in love over hate YOU ARE WORTHY. YOU ARE LOVED. YOU MATTER. YOU CAN BE BOTH PODCAST: A faith-rooted, justice-centered conversation space where LGBTQ+ people know they can exist authentically—at faith and at full pride. COMMUNITY APP: Join the You Can Be Both community app for real friendships, weekly Zoom calls, guest speakers, meditations, wellness resources, and book club discussions (currently reading Forging a Sacred Weapon by Kathy Baldock). JOIN HERE: http://youcanbeboth.com/ CONNECT WITH LAUREN LANZARETTA: 🌐 YouCanBeBoth.com 📱 Instagram: @Lanzaretta ▶️ YouTube: SUBSCRIBE! 🎵 TikTok: @youcanbebothpodcast 📱 Instagram (Podcast): @youcanbeeboth

  4. Jun 21

    From Rejecting Her Gay Son to Hugging Thousands of LGBTQ — Founder of FREE MOM HUGS Shares Her Faith Journey

    Sara Cunningham, founder of Free Mom Hugs, shares the powerful story of how she went from rejecting her gay son to leading an international movement that has impacted hundreds of thousands. It wasn't easy. When Sara's youngest son came out to her at 21, she didn't take it well. She was frozen in fear — terrified he would be condemned to hell, convinced that accepting him would make her a sinner too. She shamed him with the very best of intentions. But everything changed in 2014 when her son invited her to her first Pride parade. There, she met a girl who hadn't hugged her mother in four years because she was a lesbian. That hug — that moment — became the spark that ignited Sara's journey toward understanding, acceptance, and ultimately, unconditional love. Today, Free Mom Hugs is an international nonprofit movement with over 40,000 volunteers and 250 groups across the country. Sara has been featured on the Today Show, RuPaul's show, in People Magazine, and the Washington Post. But more importantly, she's helping thousands of LGBTQ+ people and their families find healing, belonging, and acceptance. In this episode, Sara opens up about: -The moment she found out her son was gay and how she initially responded -How her theology deconstructed and reconstructed-Finding an online community of 250 moms going through the same journey -The pivotal moment at Pride that changed everything -How Free Mom Hugs grew from a simple gesture into a global movement -Why visibility, education, and conversation matter -Her message to parents still struggling with their child's sexual orientation This episode is for anyone struggling with faith and LGBTQ identity, parents coming to terms with having an LGBTQ child, or anyone interested in the power of radical love and acceptance. You Can Be Both Podcast reminds you that you can be both LGBTQ+ and a person of faith. RESOURCES: Free Mom Hugs: freemomhugs.com Sara's Book: "How We Sleep at Night": https://amzn.to/3SSehTn Lauren's LGBTQ Healing and Resource Guide: laurenlanzaretta.com/youcanbeboth Lauren's Music: Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube — search Lauren Lanzaretta FOLLOW LAUREN: Instagram: @lanzaretta TikTok: @Lanzaretta YouTube: Lauren Lanzaretta

  5. Jun 14

    Gospel Singer Lost Everything When She Came Out as Gay — Now Married to Captain Sandy Yawn

    For more than 20 years, Leah Rae Yawn (formerly Shafer) was a gospel worship leader at Saddleback Church. She sang for Women of Faith, worked with Michael W. Smith and Natalie Grant, recorded multiple albums, and sung the national anthem at NFL games. Her voice and faith were her livelihood, her heart, and her life. Then she came out as gay — and lost it all. In this powerful episode of You Can Be Both, Leah Rae opens up about her journey from a strict Christian upbringing to realizing she was bisexual, her 21-year marriage to a man, and the moment she met Captain Sandy Yawn from Bravo's Below Deck Mediterranean — the first woman she ever truly loved. When the churches that had been her home for decades discovered her relationship with Sandy, they rejected her completely. She was no longer allowed to lead worship. Her platform vanished. The community she'd served for two decades turned their backs. But in losing everything, Leah found something greater: authenticity, freedom, and a partner who loves her unconditionally. In this episode, Leah shares: How she suppressed her sexuality for decades while leading worshipThe moment she knew she was drawn to womenWhat it felt like to lose her church community overnightHer relationship with Captain Sandy and what true love means nowWhy LGBTQ+ people belong in church and can lead worshipHer message to LGBTQ+ people still struggling in the closet or in unsupportive churches Leah's Powerful Message: "If you can't find a church that you feel like you belong to, there's so many other beautiful things out there that can help you thrive. Church is not a building — it's the soul." This is a conversation about faith, rejection, love, and reclaiming your voice. If you've been rejected by a faith community, if you're struggling to come out, or if you're navigating faith and sexuality — this episode is for you. FEATURED: -Leah Rae Yawn, Gospel Singer & Worship Leader (Now Married to Captain Sandy Yawn) -Host: Lauren Lanzaretta, You Can Be Both Podcast RESOURCES: Lauren's LGBTQ+ Healing and Resource Guide: laurenlanzaretta.com/youcanbeboth FOLLOW: Leah Rae Yawn on Instagram: @leahraeofficial Captain Sandy Yawn on Instagram: @captainsandrayawn Below Deck Mediterranean on Bravo LAUREN: Instagram: @Lanzaretta Spotify: Lauren Lanzaretta Apple Music: Lauren Lanzaretta YouTube: Lauren Lanzaretta

  6. Jun 7

    PROOF that "Homosexuality" Was Never in The Original Bible: Kathy Baldock Explains The Mistranslation That's Oppressed LGBTQ+ For Centuries

    For nearly 2,000 years, the word "homosexual" did not appear in the Bible. So what changed in 1946? Kathy Baldock is a leading voice on LGBTQ+ issues within Christianity and the author of "Forging a Sacred Weapon" and "Walking the Bridgeless Canyon." She's also featured in the award-winning documentary "1946: The Mistranslation That Shifted Culture." In 1946, Bible translators made a controversial decision to add the word "homosexuality" to the Revised Standard Version of the Bible — a word that had never appeared in the original Greek and Hebrew texts. In this powerful conversation, Kathy reveals how that single mistranslation changed the course of Christian history and how that lie has been used to marginalize and oppress the LGBTQ+ community for decades. This isn't her opinion, it's FACTS. But Kathy's journey to this work wasn't always about LGBTQ+ issues. It started with her own experience of being stigmatized and marginalized in her Irish Catholic community. When she was two years old, her father left her family, and she was made to feel like something was wrong with her. That pain, that sense of injustice, eventually led her to meet Netto on a hiking trail — a woman who would change everything and introduce her to the LGBTQ+ community in a way that challenged everything she thought she knew. In this episode, Kathy shares: The real history behind the 1946 Bible mistranslationHow religious institutions built oppression on a lieWhy understanding history is the key to healingHer powerful message to LGBTQ+ people of faithHow the heart of God is not reflected in discrimination and marginalization You definitely want to watch this one all the way through! Kathy's message at the end will leave you in tears! This is a conversation about faith, history, justice, and hope. If you've ever questioned what the Bible really says about LGBTQ+ people, this episode is for you. This isn't opinion, it's FACTS. FEATURED: Kathy Baldock, Author & Leading Voice on LGBTQ+ Issues in Christianity Host: Lauren Lanzaretta, You Can Be Both Podcast RESOURCES: -Lauren's LGBTQ+ Healing and Resource Guide: http://youcanbeboth.com/ -Documentary "1946: The Mistranslation That Shifted Culture": https://www.1946themovie.com/ -Kathy Baldock's Books: "Forging a Sacred Weapon": https://amzn.to/4oaBrQy "Walking the Bridgeless Canyon": https://amzn.to/4g5mBc6 Canyon Walker Connections: https://canyonwalkerconnections.com/about/kathy-baldock/ FOLLOW LAUREN: Instagram: @lanzaretta Spotify: Lauren Lanzaretta Apple Music: Lauren Lanzaretta YouTube: Lauren Lanzaretta

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You Can Be Both is hosted by singer/songwriter Lauren Lanzaretta, who shares honest conversations about being both gay and Christian—two identities often seen as incompatible. The podcast creates space for LGBTQ+ people of faith to find healing, community, and a deeper connection with Christ while fully embracing who they are. As a first step to your healing journey, I recommend the “LGBTQ+ Healing & Resource Guide” - go to www.youcanbeboth.com for this and other resources. Join the You Can Be Both Community App https://youcanbeboth.mn.co/plans/1984569?bundle_token=a02f1c1a95e905aa187210545

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