Two Off The Tee

Jeff Shin
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Brothers Jeff and James Shin — proudly high-handicap Chicago golfers with long-time careers in real estate and lending — break down their world of golf: gear, matches, league drama, course stories, and the grind of getting better. It’s rivalry, personality, and unfiltered golf talk from two guys who compete on and off the course. If you’re into golf, banter, and the real amateur grind, this is your show.

  1. 4d ago

    Would You Play One Round of Golf With Two Years of Your Life on It?

    Tom Kim shot 64, won gold, and got out of Korea's military service, which runs 18 to 21 months. His teammate S.H. Kim missed by two shots and still has to go. James Shin says he'd have left the Presidents Cup right away too, and he'd be happy for Tom even if he were S.H. Jeff Shin thinks that one round carried more pressure than a major. Would you want your service decided by one round? Then Jon Rahm. He passed on the PGA Tour's offer in February, LIV filed for bankruptcy, and now he's out. James says take him back because people want to watch him. Jeff puts it in work terms: a guy quits Simmies for a bigger paycheck, the new place falls apart, and he wants back in. James said no on the spot. The PGA Tour wants $30 million a year to sponsor each of its top events starting in 2028, and fourteen companies bid on the last four. James would rather buy every billboard on 294. Jeff thinks you'd need a CEO who's obsessed with golf. The Simmies Cup is next week. James argues for no handicaps, says match play was never meant to be fair, and Jeff has no comeback. It's straight up, gold tees, 8 a.m. at Bridges of Poplar Creek. Free Relief turned into James's story: second place by one stroke again, a 100-yard hole-out on 17 by the winner, and an egged car in Elmhurst. Plus, should our league give out a flag or a trophy? WHAT'S IN THIS EPISODE - Tom Kim's gold medal and the army - Is that round harder than a major? - Jon Rahm leaving LIV - Would you rehire him? - The PGA Tour's $30 million price tag - Simmies Cup: straight up, no handicaps - Robbed by one stroke again Would you rehire the guy who left? Follow the show and tell us. Two Off the Tee. Jeff Shin and James Shin.

  2. Oct 6

    Scottie Scheffler Conceded a 32-Footer After a Fan Yelled. Would You?

    Scottie Scheffler conceded a 32-foot putt at the Presidents Cup after a fan yelled in Nico Echavarria's swing. James Shin calls it the right move and says he'd do the same, because he wants to win fair and square. Jeff Shin isn't buying the halo. Scottie still had a tap-in for par, and Jeff says he doesn't give that putt if he's staring at bogey. Would you? Then the brothers fight about their own cup. James wants to play straight up with no handicaps, and he brings it up after the draft. Jeff calls it a hustle, says you just average the two handicaps in alternate shot, and then falls for the bait anyway. First nine best ball, second nine alternate shot, then singles, with dinner riding on which captain wins. The Oklahoma 2v2 happened. Two guys came up from Oklahoma to play us, and they lost. Jeff came away impressed by how a low handicapper scrambles and chips. James saw mediocre golf and says a 40-foot putt is luck, not skill. They played the same round and still can't agree on it. Also in this one: Presidents Cup week at Medinah, Tom Kim and Korean golfers' military service, and Jackson Koivun's club twirl on 18. Free Relief: does playing for money make you a better golfer? Both hosts say yes. Jeff wants to go further and ban "that's good" whenever money's on the line. Putt everything out. WHAT'S IN THIS EPISODE - Scottie Scheffler's 32-foot gimme - Korean golfers and military service - Jackson Koivun's club twirl - Straight up or handicaps for our own cup - The Oklahoma 2v2 result - Real 2-handicap or home-course handicap? - Does gambling make you a better golfer? - No more gimmes Does playing for money make you better? Follow the show and tell us.

  3. Sep 29

    Caddie Quit on Hole 9 Over an Umbrella: Would You Walk?

    Bryson posted "I'm coming home." James Shin thought it meant a return to the PGA Tour. Jeff Shin says it was a backyard hole-in-one challenge over his house with a crew of YouTubers. James fell for it, and he admits it. Then the caddie who dropped the bag on hole nine. Jeff tells the whole story: a range argument about where the bag went, an umbrella in the bag on a sunny day, a few choice words the golfer wouldn't take back, and "Man, I'm out." Would you ever walk off a job mid-round? Presidents Cup week at Medinah, and whether J.J. Spaun got snubbed. Is a captain's pick about the best player, experience, or who your buddies are? Then the brothers make it official: Jeff vs James, Team Black vs Team Red, captains of our own house cup. Best ball, alternate shot, singles match play, and a real argument about how a snake draft works. Two claimed 3-handicaps are flying in from Oklahoma. And the rules fight: a ball rolls into someone else's pitch mark in the fairway, and the official says it's playable. The hosts rule on it. WHAT'S IN THIS EPISODE - Bryson's "I'm coming home" tease - The caddie who quit on nine - Was J.J. Spaun snubbed? - Presidents Cup picks: best player or buddy pick? - Team Black vs Team Red: the brother vs brother draft - Two claimed 3s from Oklahoma - Free relief from a fairway pitch mark? Free relief from someone else's pitch mark: yes or no? Tell us. Follow the show. Leave a rating if this one made you argue with your steering wheel. Two Off the Tee. Jeff Shin and James Shin.

  4. Sep 22

    Presidents Cup at *MEDINAH*: Jeff Shin vs James Shin

    Presidents Cup week is in Chicago. Jeff Shin wants Team USA at Medinah. James Shin takes the International side -- he just says Team Korea. The one clip they both actually know is Tom Kim putting his putter on the ground. Then two claimed 3-handicaps from Oklahoma booked flights after a challenge. The other group backed out. These two did not. Exhibition 2v2. James says give them strokes. Jeff says maybe it's a hustle. Also on this tape: our league's tenth season is in the books. James missed the last weekend by a stroke. They graded the year and argued whether 85% handicap was too much. Free Relief: Jeff's putt hammers the flagstick and ricochets. James says too fast, then gives him the par. Then Jeff hits the wrong ball and nobody cards the two-stroke. WHAT'S IN THIS EPISODE - Presidents Cup at Medinah - USA vs International / "Team Korea" - Tom Kim putter meme - Two claimed 3s booked flights - Season ten wrap + 85% handicap - Flagstick ricochet: does it count? - Wrong ball, asterisk win? Does a ricochet off the pin count if your brother gives it to you? Tell us. Follow the show. Leave a rating if this one made you argue with your steering wheel. It helps people find us. Two Off the Tee. Jeff Shin and James Shin.

  5. Sep 15

    LIV Filed *CHAPTER 11*: Soft Money Era Over?

    LIV Golf filed for Chapter 11. Jeff walks the burn rate: about $5 billion to start, with something like $15 million left. Jon Rahm is still owed about $7.5 million. Bryson about $5.8. DJ about $5.5. Rick Shiels shows up on the list too. James says nobody watches LIV and it was bound to fail. Then they ask whether the soft-money era is over, or whether LIV 2.0 and the NDAs still hide the real story. Also on this tape: a scooped short putt in match play and who owns the gimme. Stroke play vs match play. Why playing by the rules ends the cart argument. A 2v2 rematch date on the books. Our league Final Four picks. Free Relief: Is "drive for show, putt for dough" dead for amateurs? James says get the driver dialed. Jeff says putting is still the hardest part of the game. WHAT'S IN THIS EPISODE - LIV files Chapter 11 - $5B burn rate down to ~$15M - Rahm / Bryson / DJ still owed millions - Scooped putt: who owns the gimme? - Match play vs stroke play rules - Rematch date talk + challenger queue - Final Four predictions - Drive for show vs putt for dough Is LIV's Chapter 11 the end of soft money golf, or just a refinance? Tell us. Follow the show. Leave a rating if this one made you argue with your steering wheel. It helps people find us.

  6. Sep 8

    Legacy or the Bag: Would You Chase Tiger or Take $100M?

    Scottie Scheffler came from three back at East Lake, won his second FedEx Cup, and the money talk started before the trophy cooled. He passed Tiger Woods for most PGA Tour career earnings. James says comparing that number to Tiger's era is not fair : different prize pools, different decades. Jeff puts an asterisk on the dominance: half the best players left for LIV. Then they argue whether you chase Tiger's legacy or take the bag when a new league knocks. Also on this tape: James heard Good Good's CEO got the boot. Jeff says he stepped down. They dig into the Callaway fight, a sue-Callaway tweet, and a buyback rumor Jeff calls a stretch. Then our league playoffs : James finished fifth, missed by one. A 2v2 rematch paid out in Korean BBQ. Free Relief: three Kirkland wedges for the price of one Vokey, and Jeff says he's going to Costco. WHAT'S IN THIS EPISODE - Scottie Scheffler wins FedEx Cup from three back - Passed Tiger on Tour career money : is that real? - The LIV asterisk on Scottie's era - Legacy vs the bag - Good Good CEO out : Callaway talk (on-tape argument) - League playoffs: missed the Final Four by one - 2v2 rematch, dinner on the losers - Kirkland wedges vs one Vokey Is passing Tiger on Tour money real, or just a bigger purse? Tell us. Follow the show so you don't miss the next one, and leave a rating if this one made you argue with your steering wheel : it helps people find us. Two Off the Tee. Jeff Shin and James Shin.

  7. Sep 1

    Good Good vs Callaway: Do Not Touch My New Driver

    Good Good made a Callaway driver ad where Garrett shoulder-tackles his girlfriend and yells don't touch my driver. James had to go hunt for it after they took it down. He called it mean. A little sexist. He wouldn't bump Ella for a driver. Jeff watched the extra 15 seconds — some other guy touches the club, looks possessed, starts ripping balls three different ways — and still thought the whole thing was a mess. Callaway admitted they approved it. Then Jeff says they cut them. Dick's and Golf Galaxy started pulling merch. James calls it cancel culture and says he can't even talk freely on his own show. Jeff's take: they weren't winning, so everybody finally had a reason. If the deal was printing money, this gets swept. Then Harold Varner III shows up at a public track in Indiana with five buddies, asks for a sixsome, gets told no, and still groups up a few holes in. Course refunds them and kicks them off. James is with the course. Jeff's the same argument again: if you're winning, you get the sixsome. If you're not, Indiana doesn't care that you're on LIV. Also in this one: our league playoffs this week, a 2v2 that went quiet, kicking a replaced divot (they both think the rule is stupid), pants vs shorts, and why nobody yells "fore" loud enough anymore. WHAT'S IN THIS EPISODE - Good Good's Callaway driver ad — don't touch my driver - Callaway approved it. Jeff says they cut them. - Cancel culture vs "they weren't winning" - Harold Varner and the sixsome on a public track - League playoffs this week — two different boards - The 2v2 went quiet. Oklahoma's still coming. - Kicking a replaced divot is a penalty now - Pants vs shorts, and hats in the clubhouse - Tee times too close, and a late "fore" Was Callaway right to cut, or was Good Good right that it's a bit? Tell us. Follow the show so you don't miss the next one, and leave a rating if this one made you argue with your steering wheel — it helps people find us. Two Off the Tee. Jeff Shin and James Shin.

  8. Aug 25

    Don't Hit It There: Tree Roots Don't Get a Free Drop

    LeBron James just started a golf YouTube channel, and he is about a 22 handicap. That is the cold open, and it is why this episode exists. James has not watched a full episode yet. He already knows LeBron is out there with Bob Does Sports, nearly holed one on camera, and is posting the kind of round Jeff grew up never getting — everyone knew Jordan golfed, and nobody ever got the tape. They argue whether that is bad golf or relatable golf. James wins. Relatable. Because they are not bad golfers. Then the rumor they both read: Jon Rahm may have to pay $25 million to come back to the PGA Tour. Brooks Koepka already came back, paid his penalty, and Jeff's argument is he did not even make the FedEx Cup. Rory McIlroy asked what value the LIV guys actually bring. James hates Rory. Jeff thinks Rory has a point. Ten minutes. Nobody moves. Sunday was the first playoff. James had the bye and watched from a cart. The week before, he picked his own brother to go home. This week he says he was rooting for him the whole time. Jeff still calls him Judas, then walks the holes where it got away: too easy on a 3-wood, water on 12, and a swing that got stuck in the tall grass. Also in this one: a 2v2 with a family that keeps swapping cousins, a guy who got invited on the show and backed out, tree roots that do not get a free drop, tee times stacked seven minutes apart, and James losing five Pro V1s in a fairway after the rain — plugged, gone — and saying he is going back to Kirklands. WHAT'S IN THIS EPISODE - LeBron James, 22 handicap, new golf YouTube channel - Relatable golf vs "bad golf" - Don't tinker the night before a tournament - Jon Rahm and the reported $25 million fine - Rory vs Scottie on letting LIV back in - Brooks came back. What value did he bring? - Playoff Sunday from the cart, and Judas - The cousins want a 2v2 — and one of them backed out - Tree roots don't get a free drop - Five balls lost in the fairway, back to Kirklands - They stack tee times 7 minutes apart - Four hours is the point Jeff still hates the gallery drop. James took them anyway. Tell us who is right. Follow the show so you don't miss the next one, and leave a rating if this one made you argue with your steering wheel — it helps people find us. Two Off the Tee. Jeff Shin and James Shin.

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Brothers Jeff and James Shin — proudly high-handicap Chicago golfers with long-time careers in real estate and lending — break down their world of golf: gear, matches, league drama, course stories, and the grind of getting better. It’s rivalry, personality, and unfiltered golf talk from two guys who compete on and off the course. If you’re into golf, banter, and the real amateur grind, this is your show.

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  • Creator
    Jeff Shin
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    46
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Jeff Shin
  • Show Website
    Two Off The Tee

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