The Pretty Smart Podcast

Vacation Rental Design Collective
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Pretty Smart is a candid, stylish, real-talk podcast hosted by three design industry insiders—Jane Dagmi, Jessica Duce, and Ericka Saurit—about what it actually takes to build something meaningful in the world of design, hospitality, and creative entrepreneurship. Each season brings honest conversations about the messy middle of building a business and the bold leaps required when you’re creating something meaningful in an industry that feels larger than life. It’s like a sleepover with your besties, where you get to listen in to all the juicy bits.  You’ll hear stories of courage, ambition, brand building, and the friendships that made it all possible. Whether you’re a designer, creative, investor, host, tastemaker, or just looking for clarity, community, and a little comic relief, you’re in the right place. Pretty Smart is your reminder that nobody actually has it all figured out…they’re just doing it anyway. Join us: https://www.theprettysmartpodcast.com/

Episodes

  1. 5D AGO

    Ordinary Isn't Profitable: The Difference Between Decorating and Designing a Profitable Rental

    Vacation rental design is not an extension of residential design—and it’s definitely not staging. In this episode of Pretty Smart, the hosts unpack what vacation rental design really is: a strategic blend of hospitality, business strategy, psychology, logistics, and data-driven decision-making. From durability, guest behavior, and photogenic design to pricing strategy, replenishment models, and long-term ROI, this conversation reveals why successful vacation rental designers are far more than decorators. They are ROI strategists—designing spaces that look incredible, function effortlessly, and generate sustained revenue. The episode also dives into hard-earned lessons: when “lipstick on a pig” doesn’t work, why saying no to the wrong clients is essential, and how trusting your instincts creates room for bigger, more aligned opportunities. Through real project examples, including a transformational case study, the hosts show how thoughtful design decisions can change not just a property’s performance—but how owners view their role in creating meaningful, wellness-driven guest experiences. Whether you’re a designer, host, investor, or creative entrepreneur, this episode reframes vacation rental design as a powerful, scalable business model with long-term impact. Timestamps 00:00 – 02:30 Why vacation rental design is hospitality, psychology, logistics, and business strategy—not decorating 02:30 – 05:30 Residential vs. vacation rental design: timelines, durability, and real-world use 05:30 – 08:00 Designing with data: ADR, competition analysis, reviews, and market insights 08:00 – 11:00 How to sell design to investors by speaking the language of ROI 11:00 – 14:00 “You’re designing a store people sleep in”: branding, merchandising, and experience 14:00 – 18:00 The replenishment model and why vacation rentals create recurring design revenue 18:00 – 21:00 Photography, stopping the scroll, and refreshing listings every 2–3 years 21:00 – 24:00 Why saying no to the wrong projects is a growth strategy 24:00 – 29:00 Case study: The Gathering—data, accessibility, branding, and transformation 29:00 – 33:00 Wellness, inclusivity, and designing spaces that create lasting memories 33:00 – 36:30 Vacation rental design as a long-term, scalable business model 36:30 – End Invitation to the Vacation Rental Design Summit Key Quotes “Vacation rental design is hospitality meets business strategy, meets psychology, meets logistics.” “Ordinary isn’t profitable. An ordinary chair doesn’t make money.” “You’re designing a store that people are going to sleep in.” “We don’t care about grandma’s purple chair—go have fun.” “Designers aren’t just making things beautiful; they’re designing ROI.” Relevant Links Vacation Rental Design Summit Register for the upcoming Vacation Rental Design Summit in Las Vegas: https://tinyurl.com/2rd8w6sr Pretty Smart Podcast Learn more about the podcast and explore additional episodes: https://theprettysmartpodcast.com/ Instagram Vacation Rental Designers: https://www.instagram.com/vacationrentaldesigners/?hl=en J Duce Design: https://www.instagram.com/jducedesign/?hl=en High Point x Design: https://www.instagram.com/highpointxdesign/?hl=en Saurit Creative: https://www.instagram.com/sauritcreative/?hl=en Repurposing Suggestions Social Media Carousel: Why Vacation Rental Design Is NOT Residential Design Reel: “You’re not designing a house—you’re designing a business.” Email Marketing Subject line: Why ‘Pretty’ Isn’t Profitable in Vacation Rental Design CTA-driven summit promo featuring ROI + wellness Blog Content Designing for ROI: What Vacation Rental Designers Need to Know Why Saying No Is a Power Move for Designers

    38 min

  2. DEC 16

    Let’s Name Names: How Community, Collaboration & Courage Spark a Design Movement

    In Episode 2 of Pretty Smart — “Let’s Name Names” — the founders dive into the people, partnerships, and pivotal moments that have shaped this growing design movement. From the trailblazers who stepped up to speak, to the unexpected friendships and collaborations formed at the Summit, this episode celebrates the individuals who make the Pretty Smart community what it is. It’s a conversation about showing up, finding your people, and building something bigger than yourself — one connection at a time. Ericka, Jane, and Jessica reflect on the stories of designers, hosts, and brands who have become central to the movement — from Paula’s mastery in branded destination design, to the “Design Besties” who met at the Summit and went on to launch a nonprofit, to Lorraine’s mission to make accessible vacation rentals the norm. This episode highlights exactly why this community works: people are eager to share, collaborate, mentor, and grow together. Whether you're a designer, host, brand, or creative entrepreneur, this conversation is a reminder that stepping into the room can change your entire path. This is what happens when people with purpose and passion decide to build something bigger than themselves. ⏱️ Timestamps 00:00 — Finding community & the origin of the Collective How the summit sparked unexpected friendships, connections, and collaborations. 02:00 — What Pretty Smart is all about A movement built from courage, creativity, and taking action before you know how. 03:00 — Before the Summit vs. after The shift from individual careers to a tight-knit design family. 05:00 — The diversity of the community Designers at all levels, from vacation rental specialists to lifelong interior designers. 06:00 — Spotlight: Paula Oblen Her expertise in branded destination design, celebrity collaborations, and opportunities created through Summit appearances. 09:00 — Collaborations born from showing up Why increasing your circle leads to unexpected partnerships. 10:00 — The Design Besties How four designers met at the Summit, formed a nonprofit, and now redesign teachers’ lounges nationwide. 12:00 — Featuring Lorraine Woodward and Inclusivity Her work on accessibility, neurodiversity, vacation rental standards, and why design must consider all needs. 15:00 — Safety, cleanability & design intersections How experts like Justin Ford and Durk Johnston connect safety, housekeeping and design. 17:00 — Community champions: Jonathan & Birgit From front-row supporters to Collective members helping the movement grow. 19:00 — Pillow Talk memories A behind-the-scenes story from Summit two — pajamas, heels, and a stage walk. 21:00 — Brand partnerships & influence How designers' insights are shaping product development and collaborations. 23:00 — Industry leaders taking notice Speakers, innovators, and couples like Harshad & Ishita sharing hard-earned business lessons. 26:00 — Tyann Marcink Hammond A pillar in the STR world and advocate for preparing hosts for the FIFA World Cup demand. 27:00 — The volunteer team that makes it happen Recognizing the people on the ground who help bring the Summit to life. 30:00 — Spotlight: Janice & her biophilic luxury retreat Designing with intention, beauty, and deep connection to the natural world. 31:00 — Why the magic works People are willing to share — and that generosity fuels the movement. 33:00 — Your invitation to join Show up, connect, and access a community that wants to grow with you. 💬 Key Quotes “When you show up and increase your circle, opportunities appear that you never planned for.” “Design isn’t just about the space — it’s about who feels welcome in it.” “They didn’t wait until they knew how. They cared so much, they figured it out.” “We created what we couldn’t find: a community willing to share openly.” “You’re not alone. This is what happens when people decide to build something bigger than themselves.” 🔗 Relevant Links 🎟 Register for the Vacation Rental Design Summit https://tinyurl.com/2rd8w6sr 🎧 Learn More About the Pretty Smart Podcast https://theprettysmartpodcast.com/ 📱 Instagram Links Vacation Rental Designers — https://www.instagram.com/vacationrentaldesigners/?hl=en High Point x Design — https://www.instagram.com/highpointxdesign/?hl=en Saurit Creative — https://www.instagram.com/sauritcreative/?hl=en J Duce Design — https://www.instagram.com/jducedesign/?hl=en

    34 min

  3. DEC 9

    How Three Designers Accidentally Built a Movement: The Origin Story of the Vacation Rental Design Summit

    In the premiere episode of Pretty Smart, hosts Jane Dagmi, Jessica Duce, and Ericka Saurit share the real, never-before-told story of how a single courageous moment at High Point Market sparked an idea that grew into the Vacation Rental Design Summit, a thriving community, and ultimately a new platform filling an unserved space in the overlap of design and vacation rentals. Through candid storytelling, the trio walks through the shaky beginnings, the late-night Zooms across time zones, the heartbreak of hard decisions, and the unexpected opportunities that followed. You’ll hear how they built something the design industry didn’t even know it needed—and how doing it before they felt ready became their superpower. If you’re a designer, creative entrepreneur, or someone standing at the edge of a big idea, this episode is your reminder that ordinary isn’t profitable, courage compounds, and sometimes the boldest moves start with simply saying yes. Episode Timestamps 00:00 — The moment that sparked it all: a nervous pitch at High Point Market. 02:00 — Why Pretty Smart exists and what listeners can expect. 03:30 — How the idea for the Vacation Rental Design Summit was born. 07:00 — Saying yes before knowing how—and finding the right partners. 12:30 — Building the first summit after hours and across three time zones. 17:00 — The “Do you have an exit plan?” wake-up call. 19:00 — Canceling the Summer Escape—and what happened immediately after. 21:00 — How closing one door opened the opportunity in Las Vegas. 23:30 — Why vacation rental design is exploding—and why design actually matters. 35:00 — The standing ovation that made everything worth it. 38:00 — Courage takeaways: just do it, ask the question, take the leap. Key Quotes “Take a jump. Take a leap. If you believe in something, you can build it.” “Living in the I don’t know is not a good place.” “Ordinary isn’t profitable.” “None of us went to Summit School—we just kept doing it anyway.” “We poured everything into it, and that standing ovation… that’s when we knew it mattered.” Important Links 🎟 Register for the Vacation Rental Design Summit https://tinyurl.com/2rd8w6sr 🌟 Learn More About the Pretty Smart Podcast https://theprettysmartpodcast.com/ 📸 Instagram Vacation Rental Designers — https://www.instagram.com/vacationrentaldesigners/?hl=en High Point x Design — https://www.instagram.com/highpointxdesign/?hl=en Saurit Creative — https://www.instagram.com/sauritcreative/?hl=en J Duce Design —

    40 min

  4. TRAILER

    Welcome to Pretty Smart: Real Talk for the Design-Driven and Ambition-Fueled

    Pretty Smart is your new candid, stylish, real-talk podcast about what it actually takes to build something meaningful in the worlds of design, hospitality, and creative entrepreneurship. Hosted by industry insiders Jane Dagmi, Jessica Duce, and Ericka Saurit, this show pulls back the curtain on the messy middle of building a business—the doubts, the pivots, the big swings, and the friendships that make the journey possible. In this trailer, Jane, Jessica, and Ericka share what inspired the show, why these conversations matter, and what you can expect each season. Think of it like a sleepover with your smartest, funniest creative besties—where the “off the record” stories finally get told. If you’re a designer, creative leader, investor, tastemaker, or someone craving clarity, community, and a dose of comic relief, you’re in the right place. Pretty Smart is your reminder that nobody has it all figured out… but the magic happens when you start anyway. Subscribe now and join us for the bold, honest, joyfully imperfect journey ahead. Important Links 🎟 Register for the Vacation Rental Design Summit: https://tinyurl.com/2rd8w6sr 🌟 Learn More About the Pretty Smart Podcast: https://theprettysmartpodcast.com/ 📸 Instagram: Vacation Rental Designers — https://www.instagram.com/vacationrentaldesigners/?hl=en High Point x Design — https://www.instagram.com/highpointxdesign/?hl=en Saurit Creative — https://www.instagram.com/sauritcreative/?hl=en J Duce Design — https://www.instagram.com/jducedesign/?hl=en

    3 min

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Pretty Smart is a candid, stylish, real-talk podcast hosted by three design industry insiders—Jane Dagmi, Jessica Duce, and Ericka Saurit—about what it actually takes to build something meaningful in the world of design, hospitality, and creative entrepreneurship. Each season brings honest conversations about the messy middle of building a business and the bold leaps required when you’re creating something meaningful in an industry that feels larger than life. It’s like a sleepover with your besties, where you get to listen in to all the juicy bits.  You’ll hear stories of courage, ambition, brand building, and the friendships that made it all possible. Whether you’re a designer, creative, investor, host, tastemaker, or just looking for clarity, community, and a little comic relief, you’re in the right place. Pretty Smart is your reminder that nobody actually has it all figured out…they’re just doing it anyway. Join us: https://www.theprettysmartpodcast.com/

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  • Creator
    Vacation Rental Design Collective
  • Years Active
    2K
  • Episodes
    4
  • Rating
    Clean
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