Deep Work Out Loud

Julie Harris Oliver
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Welcome to Deep Work: Out Loud, The thinking that fuels our life, our work, and our leadership. I'm Julie Harris Oliver. This is the podcast where I sit with another professional coach and we do some work around a single concept, piece of inspiration, a topic we've seen come up in coaching. If we're very lucky, while talking about it, we might demonstrate what coaching might look and feel like. But we'll see how this goes. It's all an experiment. With any luck, you will leave with something you can apply and use in your work or your life or both.

  1. 6d ago

    Redefining Leadership Value: Beyond the Checklist with Jennifer Tankersley

    Have you ever ended a full, packed day of leadership and still felt like you didn't actually get anything done? In this episode of Deep Work Out Loud, Julie Harris Oliver welcomes executive coach Jennifer Tankersley to unpack why senior leaders so often feel like they're "not doing enough," even when they're busy from the first meeting to the last. Jennifer traces her own path from data-focused management consulting into coaching, driven by a growing fascination with the human side of leadership that no spreadsheet could capture. Julie and Jennifer dig into a real client case where a leader felt like "nothing got done" in a day that was, in fact, full of high-impact conversations, just none of them checkable off a list. From there, Jennifer lays out her value equation, a framework for what leadership value actually includes: tangible work, enabling other people's work, information flow and learning, reflection and sense-making, and self-leadership, meaning spaciousness, regulation, and intentional presence. They talk about how to make that invisible leadership work visible, how role chartering and managing up can align expectations, and how to tell the difference between real external urgency and the reactive urgency that comes from a nervous system stuck in threat response. Clarity, safety, recovery, and the willingness to pause come up again and again as the real practices underneath good leadership. In This Episode: Jennifer's path from data-driven consulting into executive coaching Why a full day of leadership can still feel like "nothing got done" The value equation: tangible work, enabling others, information flow, reflection, and self-leadership How to make invisible leadership work visible to the people around you Role chartering and managing up as tools for alignment The difference between real urgency and reactive urgency rooted in threat response Why clarity, safety, recovery, and pausing are core leadership practices, not soft extras ⏰ Chapters 00:00 Jennifer Tankersley 04:17 Jennifer's Path to Coaching 08:46 The Value Equation Framework 12:57 Making the Invisible Visible 17:56 Safety, Groundedness & Reactive Patterns 25:31 Urgency: Real vs. Reactive 31:22 Recovery & Restoration for Leaders 👤 About Jennifer Tankersley Jennifer Tankersley is an executive coach who moved into coaching after a career in data-focused management consulting, drawn by a deep interest in the human side of leadership. She writes and speaks about redefining what leadership value actually looks like beyond output and checklists. Read more in her article, "You Don't Have a Time Problem, You Have a Value Problem," at thetankersleygroup.com. 🌐 Website: https://thetankersleygroup.com 👤 About Julie Harris Oliver Julie Harris Oliver is an Executive Coach, Leadership Development Professional, and host of the Deep Work Out Loud podcast. Through thought-provoking conversations with coaches, leaders, and subject matter experts, Julie helps professionals develop greater self-awareness, strengthen leadership skills, navigate career transitions, and create meaningful personal and professional growth. Each episode explores practical insights you can apply to your work, relationships, leadership, and everyday life. 🌐 Website: https://julieharrisoliver.com ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🔔 Subscribe for More Leadership & Coaching Insights If you enjoy conversations about leadership, executive coaching, emotional intelligence, mindset, workplace culture, and personal growth, make sure to Subscribe and turn on notifications so you never miss a new episode of Deep Work Out Loud. 📌 Subscribe & Stay Updated: → https://www.youtube.com/@DWOLJulieHarrisOliver?sub_confirmation=1 🔗 Connect with Julie Harris: • Website: → https://www.julieharrisoliver.com/ • Instagram: → https://www.instagram.com/julieharrisoliver/ • LinkedIn: → https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-harris-oliver • Book a FREE Call: → https://www.julieharrisoliver.com/coaching-appointment #DeepWorkOutLoud #LeadershipDevelopment #ExecutiveCoaching #SelfAwareness #InvisibleWork #LeadershipValue

  2. Jul 14

    Anchored, Aligned, and Accountable: Aiko Bethea on Transcending the Bullsh*t and Living Your Real Values

    Have you ever named your core values on the spot, without missing a beat, or drawn a total blank? In this episode of Deep Work Out Loud, Julie Harris Oliver welcomes executive coach and author Aiko Bethea to explore the gap between the values we say we hold and the ones we actually live by.   Aiko is the founder of Rare Coaching and Consulting, a senior leadership consultant for the Brene Brown Education and Research Group, and the author of the new book Anchored, Aligned, and Accountable: A Framework for Transcending B******t and Transforming Our Lives and Work. Forbes named her one of the top seven anti-racism educators for companies, and The Industry Leaders recently ranked her the number three executive coach in the world.   Aiko shares why she built her framework around naming behaviors instead of just naming values, why she calls the obstacles in the way of that work b******t on purpose, grounded in the real b******t asymmetry principle, and how she talks to her own kids about the parenting choices she'd make differently now. Whether you're a leader, a coach, a parent, or someone trying to figure out whose voice is actually running your life, this conversation offers a real framework for telling the difference. In This Episode: Why naming a value means nothing without naming the behavior behind it The b******t asymmetry principle, and why Aiko chose that word on purpose Julie's own turning point: a birthday cake, a lunch break, and a career-changing decision How to talk to your kids (or your team) about the patterns you're trying to unlearn Building safety and trust by admitting what you don't know How we collude with systems that don't serve us The one question to ask anytime you feel obligated: "says who?" Why permission to rest can feel like a radical act Aiko's upcoming retreat in Costa Rica   ⏰ Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:00 Meet Aiko Bethea 02:00 What Led Her to Coaching 03:00 Inside Anchored, Aligned, and Accountable 04:00 From Naming Values to Naming Behaviors 07:00 The Privilege of Alignment and the Birthday Cake Story 09:00 The B******t Asymmetry Principle 12:00 The Derailers That Keep Us From Our Core Selves 15:00 Talking to Your Kids About Getting It Wrong 19:00 Psychological Safety and Not Having All the Answers 22:00 Systems, Collusion, and "Says Who?" 27:00 Slow Thinking and the Soccer Practice Problem 30:00 Withholding Permission and Rest 33:00 Permission to Rest as a Radical Act 34:00 Where to Find Aiko and Final Reflections   👤 About Aiko Bethea Aiko Bethea is the founder of Rare Coaching and Consulting, a leadership development firm helping leaders navigate today's workplace with more impactful approaches to leadership. She was recognized by Forbes as one of the top seven anti-racism educators for companies and named an influencer to follow by Culture Amp. She contributed to the New York Times bestselling anthology You Are Your Best Thing, and her writing has appeared in Forbes and Harvard Business Review. She is a senior leadership consultant for the Brene Brown Education and Research Group and a faculty member of the Hudson Institute of Coaching. Her book, Anchored, Aligned, and Accountable, is out now. 🌐 Website: https://rarecoaching.net 📷 Instagram: @Rare_Coach  📚 Book: https://bookshop.org/shop/deepworkoutloud   🌴Retreat: https://www.retreatwithrare.com/    👤 About Julie Harris Oliver Julie Harris Oliver is an Executive Coach, Leadership Development Professional, and host of the Deep Work Out Loud podcast. Through thought-provoking conversations with coaches, leaders, and subject matter experts, Julie helps professionals develop greater self-awareness, strengthen leadership skills, navigate career transitions, and create meaningful personal and professional growth.   Each episode explores practical insights you can apply to your work, relationships, leadership, and everyday life. 🌐 Website: https://julieharrisoliver.com   ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🔔 Subscribe for More Leadership & Coaching Insights If you enjoy conversations about leadership, executive coaching, emotional intelligence, mindset, workplace culture, and personal growth, make sure to Subscribe and turn on notifications so you never miss a new episode of Deep Work Out Loud.       🔗 Connect with Julie Harris: • Website: → https://www.julieharrisoliver.com/ • Instagram: → https://www.instagram.com/julieharrisoliver/ • LinkedIn: → https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-harris-oliver • Book a FREE Call: → https://www.julieharrisoliver.com/coaching-appointment   #LeadershipDevelopment #SelfAwareness #ExecutiveCoaching #PersonalGrowth #CoreValues #PsychologicalSafety

  3. May 26

    Dr. Matt Kodsi on "A Story Tale: ABCs of the Stories We Tell Ourselves" | Deep Work Out Loud

    Dr. Matt Kodsi on "A Story Tale: ABCs of the Stories We Tell Ourselves,"   Host Julie Harris Oliver welcomes encore guest Dr. Matt Kodsi to discuss his book, "A Story Tale: ABCs of the Stories We Tell Ourselves," and his journey into writing. Kodsi explains how people fill gaps in knowledge by creating stories—often with a negative bias—and shares examples.  He describes the book's short, parable-style format (about 72 pages; 1 hour on Audible), its framing as a Zoom conversation between a corporate executive father and journalism-major daughter, and its ABC framework for examining stories and their impacts. Kodsi outlines a planned five-book series on presence, life strategies, organizational culture, and identity, notes the book's addition to the University of Georgia MHA curriculum, and shares where to buy it on Amazon in paperback, Kindle, and Audible.   00:00 Welcome and Format 00:31 Encore Guest Matt 01:22 Why Write a Book 02:22 Stories We Tell Ourselves 03:55 Real World Examples 07:11 Stories About Ourselves 08:13 Building the Book Plot 12:31 Series of Five Books 15:55 Catching Your Own Stories 19:38 Who Its For 22:28 Where to Get It 23:38 Closing Invitation    Buy the book   Find Dr. Matt Kodsi here   Julieharrisoliver.com

  4. May 19

    The First Work of Leadership: Wellbeing as a Foundation for Leading in Complexity with Dr. Michael Hein | Deep Work Out Loud

    Julie Harris Oliver welcomes Dr. Michael Hein, author of "Shifting Toward Unorthodoxy," to discuss "the first work" of leadership: prioritizing wellbeing as foundational leadership work in volatile, complex environments, especially healthcare. Hein explains that leaders often forget they have a body, yet leadership performance depends on physical health, recovery, relationships, and spiritual meaning; without these, leaders struggle to stay composed, curious, and effective. He describes how socialized workplace norms push high performers to work harder rather than recover, and argues CEOs especially must model healthy boundaries because behavior sets organizational expectations more than words. Drawing parallels to athletic overtraining syndrome, he notes burnout reflects the same maladaptive effects of unrelenting stress without recovery. Hein recommends a regular recovery cadence—daily routines, monthly reflection time, and periodic longer breaks—planned on the calendar and approached as experiments. 00:00 Welcome to the Show 00:37 Meet Dr Michael Hein 01:41 From CEO to Coach 03:12 Defining First Work 04:39 Body as Leadership Platform 06:51 Why Self Care Fails 09:57 Leaders Set the Tone 14:30 Athlete Burnout Parallel 17:58 Cadence of Recovery 24:42 Start Small Experiments 28:34 Wellbeing Is Leadership Work 30:21 Wrap Up and Invitation    To find Dr. Hein   —MEDI Leadership's page:  https://www.linkedin.com/company/medileadership/ —Dr. Hein's page: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heindoc/

  5. May 12

    Listening to Your Inner Compass: Intuition, the Rational Mind, and the Protector with Louise Hansell | Deep Work Out Loud

    Host Julie Harris Oliver welcomes leadership coach Louise Hansell to discuss listening to and trusting your inner voice or "internal compass." Louise shares how she moved from corporate HR and transformation work into coaching, and explains that intuition is often subtle, felt through the body, and can be drowned out by societal, family, and logical "shoulds." They explore distinguishing intuition from the rational mind and a protective ego voice that reacts with fear and urgency, noting Louise's view that intuition appears in the first few seconds before other voices take over. Louise suggests building discernment through mindfulness, silence, and low-stakes experiments, using full-body cues like expansion, contraction, relief, tension, or persistence. They also address people-pleasing, clear no's, and tolerating uncertainty while doors gradually open. Louise closes with an Einstein quote about honoring intuition alongside reason. 00:00 Welcome to Deep Work 00:40 Meet Louise Hansel 02:18 Louise Coaching Origin 04:01 Theme Inner Compass 04:44 Hearing Versus Trusting 08:35 Body Based Yes No 09:29 Julie Pivot Story 13:32 Louise Three Voices 16:45 Naming Mind Protector 19:03 Ego and Body Listening 19:40 Mindfulness vs Thoughts 20:29 Silence and Inner Voice 23:02 Clean No Boundaries 25:15 Waiting for Doors 27:20 Trusting the Compass 28:48 Seattle Moving Example 31:26 First Three Seconds 32:42 Low Stakes Practice 34:41 Einstein Quote Wrap 35:30 Where to Find Louise 35:46 Final Invitation  Louisehansell.com

  6. May 5

    I Am Who I Am, Not What I Do: Dion Elliott Jensen on Identity, Ego, and Love-Based Leadership

    Host Julie Harris Oliver welcomes Dion Elliott Jensen, author of "Conscious Footsteps," who describes becoming an "accidental author" by using writing and long walks to process intense life changes and consolidate his journals into a book structured as standalone "walks." They focus on Dion's central theme, "I am who I am, not what I do," shaped by being abruptly fired from a CEO role and realizing he had outsourced his worth to his job. Dion explores how "what do you do?" creates instant masks, bias, and power dynamics that block real human connection, and suggests asking disarming, deeper questions about who someone is. He reflects on hardship-driven ego death, and how he now leads with less outcome attachment, wider "guardrails," and greater softness, trust, and authenticity. 00:00 Welcome to Deep Work 00:39 Meet Dion Jensen 01:37 Why He Wrote 03:41 Core Theme Identity 06:05 Masks and Job Titles 12:28 Better Questions to Ask 15:46 Tell Me About You 18:50 From Ego to Love 20:55 I Am Poem Exercise 23:56 Leadership After Shift 26:05 Parting Advice and Links 27:13 Closing Invitation    Instagram: @dionelliottjensen Web: www.consciousfootsteps.com Amazon: https://www.amazon.com.au/stores/Dion-Elliott-Jensen/author/B0G3WJP22G?ref=ap_rdr&shoppingPortalEnabled=true

  7. Apr 28

    Time Billionaires: Reclaiming 90-Second Gaps for Happiness, Focus, and Agency with Rebecca Shaddix

    Host Julie Harris Oliver interviews business leader and Time Billionaires podcast host Rebecca Shaddix on reclaiming 90-second to 15-minute gaps between meetings to reduce frantic context shifting and improve happiness, energy, and fulfillment. Shaddix describes how a COVID-era habit of replacing scrolling with tiny actions—like brief audiobook listening, pushups, breathing, or stepping outside—compounded into hundreds of books a year and a research-backed framework of six micro-moment categories (reflection/mindset, connection, movement, nature/sensory awareness, play/creativity, and gratitude/mindfulness). She emphasizes planning ahead via a weekly Friday reflection ("what went well, what didn't, what do I want more of") and focusing on a realistic "floor" rather than aspirational "ceiling" goals. They also discuss labeling meetings with a single intuitive word to clarify next steps and reduce lingering anxiety, and the broader theme of agency over time as a guardrail against resentment and burnout.   00:00 Welcome and Format 00:36 Meet Rebecca Shaddix 01:50 Time Billionaires Origin 03:35 Why Micro Gaps Matter 08:38 Nature Minutes Add Up 09:10 Plan Your Micro Moments 09:38 Six Micro Moment Categories 10:24 Tiny Creativity Reset 13:31 Balance Without Perfection 15:21 Micro Workouts Not Gyms 16:13 ADHD and Starting Small 18:35 Stop Self Blame 19:14 Floor Not Ceiling 20:13 Mindful Micro Moments 23:11 Gratitude Deep Dives 24:37 Mindfulness Anywhere 25:31 One Word Debriefs 31:06 Reclaim Time Agency 34:10 Closing And Invitation

  8. Apr 21

    Leading with Humanity in a Polarized, Fast-Changing World with Dr. Kim Stepanski

    Julie Harris Oliver welcomes Dr. Kim Stepanski, an executive coach and organizational psychologist, to explore what leadership feels like right now amid rapid change, AI disruption, geopolitical volatility, and polarization. They discuss how leaders face loneliness, pressure to have answers, and the challenge of guiding teams whose perspectives are shaped by narrowing information "echo chambers." Kim emphasizes building capacity to see beyond one's own lens, getting comfortable with not knowing, and using reflection, connection, and community to stay grounded and humane. Julie shares practices such as acknowledging heaviness, simple meeting check-ins (e.g., green/yellow/red), and creating space for people to share what they're carrying without leaders needing to fix it. Kim describes using small experiments, grounding tools, and peer groups—especially for senior women—to build vulnerability, perspective-taking, and support, and closes with ways to connect with her online.   00:00 Welcome to Deep Work 00:33 Meet Kim Stepanski 02:17 Why Kim Chose Coaching 04:16 Leading Right Now 06:56 Filters and Echo Chambers 09:30 Simple Human Check Ins 12:26 Coaching Tools and Experiments 15:07 Practicing the Uncomfortable 15:53 Building Leader Community 20:37 Systems and Human Centered Work 26:42 Staying Grounded and Closing

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Welcome to Deep Work: Out Loud, The thinking that fuels our life, our work, and our leadership. I'm Julie Harris Oliver. This is the podcast where I sit with another professional coach and we do some work around a single concept, piece of inspiration, a topic we've seen come up in coaching. If we're very lucky, while talking about it, we might demonstrate what coaching might look and feel like. But we'll see how this goes. It's all an experiment. With any luck, you will leave with something you can apply and use in your work or your life or both.

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  • Creator
    Julie Harris Oliver
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    25
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © 2025
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    Deep Work Out Loud

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