Liberated Learning

Early Childhood Nerdwork
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Liberated Learning is a podcast that believes play is the space where children claim freedom, rehearse democracy, and exercise agency.  To stand for play is to stand against control. To guard children's right to play is to declare that their liberation matters, even in a world that insists otherwise. Each week, Kisa Marx and Mike Huber have a casual but passionate conversation about how they put these ideas into action with young children. They're talking about a revolution but it sounds like a whisper.

  1. 1d ago

    LL031 The Blurriness Is Where the Liberation Comes From

    Our conversation with Cay Burton turns more personal when Cay talks about their hope to be the adult they needed when they were a child. Cay reminds us that we don't need to have all the answers. We just need to approach difference with compassion, acceptance and love.  Cay's article can be downloaded using this link: https://journals.uvic.ca/index.php/jcs/issue/view/1643  Cayley Burton (she/they) has a Master of Education (MEd) in early childhood education from the University of British Columbia. Cayley is a queer early childhood educator, researcher, advocate, and writer living on Treaty 7 territory in Calgary, Alberta (Mohkinstsis in Blackfoot). Email: cayburton@outlook.com  Kisa can be found at The Playlab Foundation and Mike at Inclusion Includes Us, on Instagram and Facebook. Their books are available at https://www.redleafpress.org/  Did you know you can support the hosting costs of The Early Childhood Nerdwork on Patreon, and get Discord access to talk nerdy with like-minded folks too? https://patreon.com/EarlyChildhoodNerdworkbyThatEarlyChildhoodNerd    Theme music by John's Black Dirt https://johnsblackdirt.bandcamp.com/album/horrible-moments-of-upness

  2. Jul 27

    LL030 The Difference Between Freedom and Liberation

    Liberation requires that each member of a community feels free to be themselves while accepting others for being themselves. Our differences are gifts--not threats--to collective well-being. We continue our discussion with Cay Burton focusing on how adult fears can interrupt children's appreciation of the range of human experience.  Cay's article can be downloaded using this link: https://journals.uvic.ca/index.php/jcs/issue/view/1643  Cayley Burton (she/they) has a Master of Education (MEd) in early childhood education from the University of British Columbia. Cayley is a queer early childhood educator, researcher, advocate, and writer living on Treaty 7 territory in Calgary, Alberta (Mohkinstsis in Blackfoot). Email: cayburton@outlook.com  Kisa can be found at The Playlab Foundation and Mike at Inclusion Includes Us, on Instagram and Facebook. Their books are available at https://www.redleafpress.org/  Did you know you can support the hosting costs of The Early Childhood Nerdwork on Patreon, and get Discord access to talk nerdy with like-minded folks too? https://patreon.com/EarlyChildhoodNerdworkbyThatEarlyChildhoodNerd    Theme music by John's Black Dirt https://johnsblackdirt.bandcamp.com/album/horrible-moments-of-upness

  3. Jul 20

    LL029 It's Also Mermaid Tails

    LL029 It's Also Mermaid Tails  Rudine Sims Bishop once wrote, "Literature transforms human experience and reflects it back to us." But because human experience varies from person to person, what each of us sees also varies. When educators read to children, adult interpretations and goals for children too often get in the way of things; children live what they know of their lives. We continue our discussion with Cay Burton as they tell some of the stories from their research on Queer Circle Time. We keep circling back to the conclusion that our work as liberators is making a safe space for children and adults to express their many facets which includes their social identities but also their joys and fears. It can be a child feeling safe to express their gender, but it's also mermaid tails.  Cay's article can be downloaded using this link: https://journals.uvic.ca/index.php/jcs/issue/view/1643  Cayley Burton (she/they) has a Master of Education (MEd) in early childhood education from the University of British Columbia. Cayley is a queer early childhood educator, researcher, advocate, and writer living on Treaty 7 territory in Calgary, Alberta (Mohkinstsis in Blackfoot). Email: cayburton@outlook.com  Kisa can be found at The Playlab Foundation and Mike at Inclusion Includes Us, on Instagram and Facebook. Their books are available at https://www.redleafpress.org/  Did you know you can support the hosting costs of The Early Childhood Nerdwork on Patreon, and get Discord access to talk nerdy with like-minded folks too? https://patreon.com/EarlyChildhoodNerdworkbyThatEarlyChildhoodNerd    Theme music by John's Black Dirt https://johnsblackdirt.bandcamp.com/album/horrible-moments-of-upness

  4. Jul 13

    LL028 It Takes Time

    This week we are joined by Cayley Burton to talk about their article, Queer Circle Time: Inviting Children’s Responses to 2SLGBTQI+ Picture Books. We talk about the importance of representation; children having mirrors that reflect an aspect of their experience. The talk quickly goes deeper and talks about the need for educators to take the time to let children express themselves authentically. When we move quickly, children may only give us the answer they think we want. Slowing down and actively listening to children allows us to hear their answers. We see their humanity when we approach with curiosity.  Cay's article can be downloaded using this link: https://journals.uvic.ca/index.php/jcs/issue/view/1643  Cayley Burton (she/they) has a master’s of education (MEd) in early childhood education from the University of British Columbia. Cayley is a queer early childhood educator, researcher, advocate, and writer living on Treaty 7 territory in Calgary, Alberta (Mohkinstsis in Blackfoot). Email: cayburton@outlook.com  Kisa can be found at The Playlab Foundation and Mike at Inclusion Includes Us, on Instagram and Facebook. Their books are available at https://www.redleafpress.org/  Did you know you can support the hosting costs of The Early Childhood Nerdwork on Patreon, and get Discord access to talk nerdy with like-minded folks too? https://patreon.com/EarlyChildhoodNerdworkbyThatEarlyChildhoodNerd    Theme music by John's Black Dirt https://johnsblackdirt.bandcamp.com/album/horrible-moments-of-upness

  5. Jul 6

    LL027 Not Just Words

    Actions speak louder than words, but words matter. The power is in matching words with actions. We teach a child to ask, "Is there anything I can do?" rather than "Sorry," so they understand that apologizing requires action, not just words. Coaching a teacher is more effective when you tell them one thing to focus on and then have them observe and try it out. Intentionality is the key whether using words, gestures or actions.    Kisa can be found at The Playlab Foundation and Mike at Inclusion Includes Us, on Instagram and Facebook. Their books are available at https://www.redleafpress.org/  Did you know you can support the hosting costs of The Early Childhood Nerdwork on Patreon, and get Discord access to talk nerdy with like-minded folks too? https://patreon.com/EarlyChildhoodNerdworkbyThatEarlyChildhoodNerd    Theme music by John's Black Dirt https://johnsblackdirt.bandcamp.com/album/horrible-moments-of-upness

  6. Jun 29

    LL026 Showing Your First Draft

    Being an educator is vulnerable because we are showing an early draft of our authentic self. We can't improve our practice until we let others see how we show up. Then we need to let the children and our co-workers inspire us to be our best educator self. Like everything, we may feel a bit of imposter syndrome when we try something new, but over time, we can integrate practices that are working and come closer to our ideal. The trick is that we always have to be OK with realizing that there is no end point. There is always more to learn.    Kisa and Mike refer to the Everything ECE Podcast episode, Why Movement Comes Before Mindfulness with Lisa Danahy https://podcast.elfoundations.com/playlist/WvbVjPR8by/file/6NKzrrXvDz    Kisa can be found at The Playlab Foundation and Mike at Inclusion Includes Us, on Instagram and Facebook. Their books are available at https://www.redleafpress.org/  Did you know you can support the hosting costs of The Early Childhood Nerdwork on Patreon, and get Discord access to talk nerdy with like-minded folks too? https://patreon.com/EarlyChildhoodNerdworkbyThatEarlyChildhoodNerd    Theme music by John's Black Dirt https://johnsblackdirt.bandcamp.com/album/horrible-moments-of-upness

  7. Jun 22

    LL025 Listening to Others

    Listening to others means more than simply hearing the words that are spoken. Young children have the same complicated feelings adults do, but they have limited ways to express those feelings. What the child is feeling internally matters. This calls upon the adults caring for that child to take on the child's perspective when listening to them. And like much of what we learn from caring for children, this also applies to when we interact with adults who may come from a different cultural perspective.    Kisa can be found at The Playlab Foundation and Mike at Inclusion Includes Us, on Instagram and Facebook. Their books are available at https://www.redleafpress.org/  Did you know you can support the hosting costs of The Early Childhood Nerdwork on Patreon, and get Discord access to talk nerdy with like-minded folks too? https://patreon.com/EarlyChildhoodNerdworkbyThatEarlyChildhoodNerd    Theme music by John's Black Dirt https://johnsblackdirt.bandcamp.com/album/horrible-moments-of-upness

  8. Jun 15

    LL024 Seeing the Other

    LL024 Seeing the Other  This week we have an unfiltered conversation about race, gender, and class. Kisa and Mike then reflect on the conversation and see how the topics share a thread of how to see the humanity in others. This can be easier said than done because we experience the world from our own perspective. We need to be able to notice when we are ignoring the perspective of others. Once again, we are joined by Amanda, Jax, Sophie, and Emma Worms.    Amanda Worms is the CEO and Founder of Bella Vita Early Learning and the Founder and Executive Director of Elowyn, a community-rooted initiative grounded in connection and support for families, educators, and children alike.   In this episode, Mike refers to the book, Caste by Isabel Wilkerson.  Kisa can be found at The Playlab Foundation and Mike at Inclusion Includes Us, on Instagram and Facebook. Their books are available at https://www.redleafpress.org/  Did you know you can support the hosting costs of The Early Childhood Nerdwork on Patreon, and get Discord access to talk nerdy with like-minded folks too? https://patreon.com/EarlyChildhoodNerdworkbyThatEarlyChildhoodNerd    Theme music by John's Black Dirt https://johnsblackdirt.bandcamp.com/album/horrible-moments-of-upness

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Liberated Learning is a podcast that believes play is the space where children claim freedom, rehearse democracy, and exercise agency.  To stand for play is to stand against control. To guard children's right to play is to declare that their liberation matters, even in a world that insists otherwise. Each week, Kisa Marx and Mike Huber have a casual but passionate conversation about how they put these ideas into action with young children. They're talking about a revolution but it sounds like a whisper.

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  • Creator
    Early Childhood Nerdwork
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    31
  • Rating
    Clean
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    Liberated Learning

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