https://ruptureeverafter.com/ @mechellewingle @winglemo Season 2 opens in the therapy room. Meet Jackie — the therapist Monte & Mechelle have been seeing since 2019, and the name you've heard us drop in almost every episode. In this candid Season 2 opener, we finally introduce the woman behind the work. Jackie has spent 30+ years as a therapist specializing in trauma, addiction, and the partners affected by it — and she pulls back the curtain on what really happens in the room. We talk about the difference between therapy and counseling (and why you can't be talked out of your trauma), how trust gets built when trust is the very thing that's broken, and why real healing starts in the body, not the head. Jackie shares her hardest and best days in the field, gets honest about sexless seasons and sexual trauma in marriage, breaks down the biggest myths about sex addiction, and revisits the question Monte kept asking early on — "Should we just get divorced?" — and why she never answered it. Warm, funny, and deeply human. Turns out therapists are people too… just ask her kids. New episodes every week. Subscribe so you don't miss Season 2. Breaking Free From Attachment Wounds online class Thanks for Sharing Episodes Porn Series But is it Good Sex? Healing Sex Addiction and Betrayal Trauma Thanks for Sharing Podcast Thewholenessnetwork.com Information is not intended as professional advice and is for entertainment only. ⏱️ CHAPTERS00:00 Welcome, Jackie01:30 What are you coming in with today?03:15 How politics entered the therapy room06:30 The hardest days of being a therapist08:30 The day Jackie's mom died — and coming back to clients14:00 Best days: when it "clicks" in the body, not the brain19:00 Moments Jackie remembers from our sessions23:00 Therapy vs. counseling — what's the difference?27:30 Sexless marriage, sexual trauma & repair35:30 Sex addiction: the biggest myths40:30 "Should we get divorced?" — why Jackie never answered43:30 The Stockdale paradox & rethinking growth48:30 Therapists are people too50:00 How you know therapy is working rupture ever after, marriage podcast, couples therapy, therapist interview, therapy vs counseling, trauma healing, relationship repair, marriage repair, nervous system regulation, somatic therapy, healing trauma in marriage, sexless marriage, sexual trauma, sex addiction, sex addiction myths, CSAT therapist, attachment styles, EFT Sue Johnson, Gottman method, should we get divorced, saving your marriage, marriage counseling, relationship advice, mental health, going to therapy, what therapy is really like, IFS, emotional intimacy, long term marriage, Monte and Mechelle