Zero Click Marketing

Amanda Natividad
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Zero Click Marketing is a marketing strategy podcast about content marketing, audience research, and how brands grow when clicks matter less. Hosted by Amanda Natividad, Chief Evangelist at SparkToro, the show explores how marketers reach audiences, build influence, and earn attention in a zero-click internet. New to the show? Start with Episode 2: What Zero Click Marketing Actually Is.

  1. ZCM Field Notes: 68% of Google Searches Now End Without a Click

    2d ago

    ZCM Field Notes: 68% of Google Searches Now End Without a Click

    Breaking news! Rand Fishkin/SparkToro published a new zero-click search study. In the first four months of 2026, a whopping 68% of Google searches ended without a click. I sound off on this finding, the trajectory of the zero-click phenomenon, and a durable strategy to help you win. Sources: My blog post, which expounds on this episode: The Click Is Now Optional. Here’s What Isn’t.Rand Fishkin/SparkToro: In 2026, Less than One Third of Google Searches Still Send a ClickCyrus Shepard/Zyppy Signal: 5 Data-Backed Features of Websites Winning Google in 2026Search Engine Land: Roughly 3 in 4 consumers use AI to shop, and nearly 1 in 3 won't let it spendAdobe Analytics (via TechCrunch): AI-sourced traffic to US retailers grew ~393% YoY in Q1 2026 and converts ~42% betterZCM Field Notes are short reactions to news or observations of what's happening in the field. Learn more: zeroclickmarketing.co Connect with Amanda Natividad (@amandanat): LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Threads

    12 min
  2. The Content Strategy Frameworks AI Can't Beat (with Kaleigh Moore)

    3d ago

    The Content Strategy Frameworks AI Can't Beat (with Kaleigh Moore)

    I chat with writer and strategist Kaleigh Moore about how content teams can adapt to AI search without sacrificing quality.  Kaleigh shares her “source signal stack” framework, explains why third-party validation matters, and makes the case for treating LinkedIn, Reddit, YouTube, newsletters, and employee-led content as part of one larger visibility ecosystem. Timestamps 00:00 — Why employee experts are such a powerful source of original content 03:06 — How Kaleigh started learning AI tools and GEO/AEO hands-on 05:46 — The “source signal stack” and how LLMs evaluate content 09:40 — The messy reality of measuring AI visibility and attribution 12:57 — Durable marketing bets in a fast-changing AI landscape 17:09 — What effective employee advocacy can look like in practice 20:43 — How internal talks can become LinkedIn, YouTube, and recruiting content 26:07 — Kaleigh’s underrated tactic: syndicating newsletters on LinkedIn 28:08 — Where to follow Kaleigh and read her newsletter, Context Window Connect with Kaleigh Moore: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaleighmoore/ Learn more about Kaleigh Moore: https://www.kaleighmoore.com/ Subscribe to Context Window: https://kaleigh-moore.kit.com/  Learn more: zeroclickmarketing.co Connect with Amanda Natividad (@amandanat): LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Threads This episode was produced in partnership with Share Your Geniuswww.shareyourgenius.com

    29 min
  3. Why B2B Is MORE Emotional Than B2C (with Talia Wolf)

    Jun 2

    Why B2B Is MORE Emotional Than B2C (with Talia Wolf)

    B2B buyers like to pretend decisions are purely rational. But when your job, reputation, budget, and team trust are on the line? That’s emotional as hell. I sat down with Talia Wolf, founder of GetUplift and author of Emotional Targeting, to dig into customer research, pricing transparency, AI search, and how emotional targeting helps marketers create messaging that actually resonates. Talia also shares a case study on how her team helped one company increase free trials by 54% through emotionally resonant comparison pages. Timestamps 00:00 — Why B2B purchases are deeply emotional 01:36 — How emotional targeting and zero-click marketing fit together 04:47 — Talia’s three-step framework: research, audit, test 05:11 — Why buying B2B software carries more emotional risk than B2C 09:27 — The qualitative research that reveals what buyers actually care about 11:00 — How Teamwork.com used comparison pages to increase free trials by 54% 16:50 — Why honest comparison content can attract better-fit customers 19:37 — Why pricing transparency matters more in the AI search era 25:41 — The KPIs Talia’s team tracked beyond free trials 28:10 — The problem with A/B testing and what to do about it Resources: Unlock better marketing with Emotional Targeting by Talia Wolf. Get your copy nowConnect with Talia Wolf: https://www.linkedin.com/in/taliagw/ Learn more about GetUplift: https://getuplift.co/  Learn more: zeroclickmarketing.co Connect with Amanda Natividad (@amandanat): LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Threads This episode was produced in partnership with Share Your Geniuswww.shareyourgenius.com  Learn more: zeroclickmarketing.co Connect with Amanda Natividad (@amandanat): LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Threads

    34 min
  4. Your Marketing Stack Is About to Get Smaller

    May 27

    Your Marketing Stack Is About to Get Smaller

    The best-of-breed marketing stack made sense when traffic was cheap. But in a zero-click world, every lead is harder to earn — and every tool handoff is another place for that lead to die. In this episode, I make the case for rethinking bloated marketing stacks, explain why small teams may need fewer tools instead of "the best" tool for every job, and share how Typeform’s Growth Flow turns forms into richer workflows for capture, enrichment, automation, and reporting. Timestamps:00:00 — The best-of-breed era is ending01:00 — How we got from monoliths to unbundled SaaS stacks04:30 — What changed in a zero-click world07:00 — The hidden cost of handoffs11:00 — Typeform Growth Flow and built-in enrichment14:00 — The DTC skincare quiz funnel example18:00 — Five places a lead can die23:00 — The new question: “What’s the fewest tools I can run this through?” For the full DTC workflow, read my newsletter, "Your Marketing Stack Is About to Get Smaller." This episode is sponsored by Typeform. It features my honest take on Growth Flow. Learn more: zeroclickmarketing.co Connect with Amanda Natividad (@amandanat): LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Threads

    13 min
  5. A Form Fill Is Not Demand Generation

    May 19

    A Form Fill Is Not Demand Generation

    Here's my new rule for demand generation: Ungate the argument. Gate the utility. Ungate the point of view — and ungate the template, tool, deeper cuts, or genuinely useful live experience. Buyers now have more ways to get answers without entering your funnel: AI search, Reddit, YouTube, private communities, and competitors’ ungated posts. And if your best educational content is locked behind a form, it's not shaping your public record. The better question isn’t “should we gate this?” It’s: what should be freely available so buyers can understand, trust, remember, cite, and share your ideas — and what is valuable enough that someone would reasonably trade their information for it? Because in a zero-click world, changing someone’s mind without relying on clicks and form fills is the whole game. Timestamps: 00:00 — The old B2B bargain: email address for the thing 02:04 — Buyers have more ways to get answers without you 03:03 — AI search makes the gated content problem more obvious 04:00 — Why the public record matters in a zero-click world 05:00 — Ungate the argument, gate the utility 06:00 — Buyers want to engage on their own terms 07:07 — A form fill is not the same thing as demand 07:26 — Three questions to ask before gating content 08:05 — Good gates vs. lazy gates Sources & Tools: What is Gated Content? And How to Make It Discoverable to AI Bots by Conductor Gated Content and AI Search: Why It’s Invisible by Ziptie Gartner Sales Survey Finds 67% of B2B Buyers Prefer a Rep-Free Experience 10 Minute Email - 10minuteemail.com SparkToro - sparktoro.com Alertmouse - alertmouse.com Pre-order the book: Zero Click Marketing (zeroclickmarketing.co/book) Learn more: zeroclickmarketing.co Connect with Amanda Natividad (@amandanat): LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Threads This episode was produced in partnership with Share Your Geniuswww.shareyourgenius.com

    9 min
  6. GEO Is What Happens When Search Becomes Zero-Click

    May 12

    GEO Is What Happens When Search Becomes Zero-Click

    AI search is changing SEO, but not because SEO is dead. It’s changing because search is becoming more zero-click. In this episode, I explain GEO — Generative Engine Optimization — and why it’s less about chasing AI hacks and more about making your content easier to retrieve, understand, cite, trust, and remember. I break down four practical mechanics of GEO: retrievability, extractability, credibility, and public evidence — and show why good AI visibility still starts with good marketing. Timestamps 00:00 Why AI search is changing SEO 01:35 What GEO actually means 03:10 Why GEO is a zero-click marketing problem 04:30 The four mechanics of GEO, beginning with retrievability 08:30 Extractability: can your content be understood and reused? 11:00 Credibility: why generic SEO content falls short 13:30 Public evidence: why your brand’s off-site record matters 18:45 Why GEO is not magic — it’s good marketing Resources: Ahrefs study: AI Overviews Reduce Clicks by 58%Pre-order the Zero Click Marketing book (yes, there’s a chapter on AI marketing!)Learn more: zeroclickmarketing.co Connect with Amanda Natividad (@amandanat): LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Threads This episode was produced in partnership with Share Your Geniuswww.shareyourgenius.com

    21 min
  7. Announcing: Zero Click Marketing — The Book!

    May 7

    Announcing: Zero Click Marketing — The Book!

    Zero Click Marketing: How to Build Brands and Earn Customers on a Traffic-Starved Web is officially available for pre-order. YOU HEARD RIGHT, CUTIES! I announce my and Rand Fishkin's upcoming book, explain why pre-orders matter, and tell you how to claim the pre-order bonuses. Pre-order the book at zeroclickmarketing.co/book. Learn more: zeroclickmarketing.co Connect with Amanda Natividad (@amandanat): LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Threads

    2 min
  8. Why Marketers Make Content for Dashboards (Not Their Audience)

    May 5

    Why Marketers Make Content for Dashboards (Not Their Audience)

    Marketers say they want good strategy. Then they optimize for whatever’s easiest to measure. This episode is about why easy-to-see metrics like traffic, likes, attributed pipeline, and rankings can create false confidence. Instead, better measurement can look like this: off-platform sharing, stronger sales conversations, customer education, adoption of your language, and content that does more than one job. In a zero-click world, the easiest metric to report is not always the one that matters most. Timestamps 00:00 Why marketers optimize for what’s easiest to measure 01:36 How SEO gets too much credit for capturing demand 04:23 The Fitbit B2B example and content as a service 06:09 Better ways to judge content quality 07:54 Why the best content does more than one job 11:12 What better measurement looks like in a zero-click world You can do audience research with all kinds of tools and networks like Google Trends, Exploding Topics, Reddit, and of course, my employer, SparkToro. You can create an always-free account and get 5 reports per month on sparktoro.com. Learn more: zeroclickmarketing.co Connect with Amanda Natividad (@amandanat): LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Threads This episode was produced in partnership with Share Your Geniuswww.shareyourgenius.com

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Zero Click Marketing is a marketing strategy podcast about content marketing, audience research, and how brands grow when clicks matter less. Hosted by Amanda Natividad, Chief Evangelist at SparkToro, the show explores how marketers reach audiences, build influence, and earn attention in a zero-click internet. New to the show? Start with Episode 2: What Zero Click Marketing Actually Is.

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