Think.Fight.Learn.Repeat.

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Think. Fight. Learn. Repeat. is a podcast dedicated to exploring wargaming, military theory, and strategy. In each episode, we speak with leading thinkers and practitioners in these fields to uncover their motivations, examine their ideas, and challenge conventional assumptions. Learn more at www.fightclubinternational.org

Episodes

  1. 4D AGO

    Episode 7 : Part 1 - Multi-Domain Operations - From Concept to Practice with Col Elizabeth Pham

    What does it actually take to fight and win in a world where every domain is contested, data moves at machine speed, and decisions matter more than platforms? In this first part of a two part episode, we sit down with Colonel Elizabeth Pham, Director of Joint Plans and Operations at the NATO School in Oberammergau, Germany, to unpack how Multi-Domain Operations (MDO) is moving from concept to execution. Drawing on her experience from early U.S. Marine Corps experimentation with information warfare and “kill web” design to building NATO’s cutting-edge MDO course, Col Pham breaks down the real challenges of connecting sensors to shooters across cyber, space, maritime, land, and air, fast enough to matter in a fight. We explore the gap between doctrine and reality, why traditional planning processes fall short in contested environments, and how AI, data, and resilient networks are reshaping the modern battlespace. She also shares how her team partnered with the Naval Postgraduate School to build a course that doesn’t just teach theory, but forces warfighters to think, adapt, and fight under pressure. This conversation goes beyond buzzwords like “convergence” and “synchronization” to answer the hard question: how do you actually achieve decision advantage in real time? If you’re interested in the future of warfare, NATO transformation, or how leaders are preparing forces to operate in denied, disrupted, and degraded environments, then this episode is for you.

    48 min

  2. APR 21

    Episode 6 : Decision Forcing Cases with Kevin Johnston and Kathleen O'Brien

    What happens when there’s no clear right answer? In this episode, we sit down with Kevin Johnston and Kathleen O’Brien from Fight Club International to explore the power of Decision Forcing Cases, a method designed to put people directly into moments of uncertainty, ambiguity, and pressure. Instead of teaching what to think, Decision Forcing Cases challenge participants to decide, often with incomplete information and no perfect solution. The result is a learning experience that goes beyond theory and forces a deeper understanding of judgment, leadership, and decision-making. We dig into what makes these cases different from traditional wargaming, why discomfort is essential to the process, and how discussion after the decision can reveal more than the decision itself. Throughout our discussion, Kevin and Kathleen share insights on designing compelling cases, common mistakes participants make, and how this approach applies far beyond the military. If you’re interested in how people think under pressure, and how to get better at it, this conversation is for you.

    33 min

  3. APR 6

    Episode 5 : 10 Ukrainians vs NATO: The Impetus for Adaptation with Bryan Daugherty

    What happens when a small team of Ukrainian soldiers outperforms two NATO battalions in a major military exercise? In this episode, we sit down with defence expert Bryan Daugherty to unpack his provocative War on the Rocks article of NATO’s recent training with Ukrainian forces, and why it reveals the importance of training to failure to adapt and innovate. Bryan explains how Ukraine has developed a faster, more adaptive way of fighting, one built on rapid innovation, decentralized decision-making, and real-world combat feedback. During our discussion, we explore NATO's Exercise Hedgehog 2025, where expectations diverged from reality, and why that gap matters far beyond the training environment. The conversation also dives into the evolving NATO–Ukraine partnership, the challenges of integrating hard-earned battlefield lessons, and the risks of misinterpretation.

    1h 2m

  4. MAR 31

    Episode 4 : Hybrid Deterrence and Countering China with Lucas Ziller

    This week, we sit down with Lucas Ziller, U.S. Army officer and military scholar, to explore modern strategic competition and deterrence in the Indo-Pacific. Lucas is the author of the article, “A Hybrid Deterrence Model for Countering China,” published in the Spring 2026 issue of Parameters. In this episode, we discuss: The limits of traditional deterrence in addressing China’s coercive strategiesHow a hybrid approach combining diplomatic, informational, military, and economic tools can strengthen U.S. strategic posturePractical frameworks for countering Chinese influence below the threshold of armed conflictInsights from Lucas’s military and academic experience on modern deterrence Read Lucas’s article: A Hybrid Deterrence Model for Countering China Whether you’re a student of international security, military strategy, or global affairs, this episode provides a deep dive into one of today’s most pressing strategic challenges.

    40 min

  5. MAR 25

    Episode 3 : Manoeuvre Warfare in the Baltics with Lukas Milevski

    Further Reading & References Manoeuvre Warfare in the BalticRevisiting the Idea of Sanctuary RussiaTargeting the Russian Rear Zone in a Hypothetical Baltic War Strategic Theory and Clausewitz’s Trinitarian Test In this episode, we sit down with Lukas Milevski to discuss his 2024 RUSI Journal article on manoeuvre warfare in the Baltic region. Together, we explore how geography, force posture, and geopolitical constraints shape the challenges of modern warfare on NATO’s northeastern flank. Lukas breaks down the core principles of manoeuvre warfare and examines whether they remain viable in the uniquely constrained and contested environment of the Baltics. From questions of speed, surprise, and initiative to the realities of terrain, logistics, and adversary capabilities, this conversation dives into the tension between theory and practice. Whether you're a student of military history, a defence professional, or simply interested in contemporary security issues, this episode offers a jarring look at one of today’s most strategically significant regions.

    1h 2m

  6. MAR 17

    Episode 2 : What is Fight Club with Ed Farren - Part 2

    In the second half of my conversation with Fight Club International co-founder Ed Farren, we explore how he envisions Fight Club fitting into the broader wargaming community, along with its future projects and his long-term vision for the organization.

    31 min

  7. MAR 13

    Episode 1 : What is Fight Club with Ed Farren - Part 1

    In the inaugural episode of Think. Fight. Learn. Repeat., host Lex Luciak speaks with Ed Farren, co-founder of Fight Club International, a global network dedicated to improving how professionals think about conflict through wargaming and debate. In Part 1 of this conversation, they explore the origins of Fight Club and why critical thinking and wargaming matter more than ever in defence and today's strategic environment.

    29 min
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Think. Fight. Learn. Repeat. is a podcast dedicated to exploring wargaming, military theory, and strategy. In each episode, we speak with leading thinkers and practitioners in these fields to uncover their motivations, examine their ideas, and challenge conventional assumptions. Learn more at www.fightclubinternational.org

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