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What if the biggest problems at work—and in life—aren’t about strategy, but about how we communicate and respond when it matters most? The Crucial Skills Podcast, by Crucial Learning, is where behavioral science meets real-life application. Each episode explores the skills that have the greatest impact on results, from turning disagreement into dialogue and holding others accountable, to building better habits, strengthening relationships, and leading lasting change. Grounded in decades of research and proven in organizations around the world, these are the skills that help you get better results—at work and at home. You’ll hear practical insights, relatable stories, and skills you can apply immediately. Whether you’re navigating a tough conversation, managing performance, improving your team dynamics, or trying to lead more effectively, this podcast gives you the tools to move forward with clarity and confidence. Because when you learn the skills that matter most, you improve yourself, your team, and your organization. 

Episodes

  1. 2D AGO

    The Truth About Accountability | Joseph Grenny on Leadership Skills and Employee Performance

    In recent years, "quiet quitting" has made headlines as employees grow increasingly burned out and disengaged. But while it feels like a recent phenomenon, is it actually new? Joseph Grenny, New York Times bestselling author and co-founder of Crucial Learning, explains why quiet quitting is really a rebranding of a decades-old leadership challenge: a lack of discretionary effort. Or, discretionary effort is the gap between the minimum effort an employee can give without being fired and the maximum effort they could offer. As this gap grows, Joseph argues it isn't an employee problem; it's a leadership one. And it’s a gap that intentional conversations can close. Joseph walks through three conversations every leader needs to have to move their teams toward real engagement. By sharing real-world examples, Joseph illustrates that the conditions for strong performance are within every leader's reach. Here’s a hint: it’s not through policy or performance reviews, but through the quality of the conversations you’re willing to have. Chapters [Start] The Quiet Quitting Problem: Heather introduces Joseph, and he tackles this central question: why are so many employees only doing the minimum? 05:43 Discretionary Effort: A look at the concept of discretionary effort and why it has become the defining leadership challenge of the knowledge worker era. 10:41 Crucial Conversations One: Why the way leaders frame work determines whether employees show up transactionally or with genuine investment. 17:30 Crucial Conversations Two: A look at The Other Side Movers, a moving company staffed by people who would otherwise be incarcerated, to see how they work with accountability. 28:06 Crucial Conversations Three: When expectations and observed behavior diverge, how a team responds determines the health of its culture, and a closing Q&A with Justin. Links and ResourcesCrucial LearningCrucial Conversations: Tools for Talking When Stakes Are HighCrucial Conversations for Accountability CourseCrucial Conversations for Accountability Miniseries Learn more about Joseph Grenny here. The Crucial Skills Podcast is brought to you by the authors and experts at Crucial Learning, home of Crucial Conversations for Mastering Dialogue and Crucial Conversations for Accountability training.

    40 min

  2. APR 28

    How to Leave a Bad Boss on Good Terms with Emily Gregory

    Have you ever had a boss you just didn’t like? Did it ever make you want to leave? You’re not alone—and there’s a better way to handle it. Emily Gregory breaks down what it’s like navigating a difficult boss. Rather than focusing on the frustrations that come with poor leadership, Emily reframes the conversation around self-awareness, perspective, and professionalism. She offers a practical approach to handling these situations in a way that preserves work relationships, protects your reputation, and strengthens your communication skills. Emily introduces the idea that not all difficult bosses are inherently toxic. By looking at different behavior patterns, she walks through practical strategies that can improve your working relationships or, when necessary, help you leave on good terms. This episode shows how the way you handle difficult work relationships can have a lasting impact on your career. Chapters [Start] Difficult Bosses: Emily introduces the topic and reframes the challenges of working with a difficult leader. 01:34 Difficult vs. Toxic Leadership: The difference between difficult bosses and toxic environments, and why it matters. 02:43 The Strength Deployment Inventory® (SDI ®): What the SDI tool is and how it helps in workplace relationships. 03:48 Strengths and Weaknesses: How “overdone strengths” can negatively impact work relationships. 05:57 Leaving on Good Terms: How to leave professionally while maintaining integrity and focusing on long-term career growth. Links and ResourcesCrucial LearningCrucial Learning: Leaving a Bad Boss on Good TermsStrength Deployment Inventory Free Trial Learn more about Emily Gregory here. The Crucial Skills Podcast is brought to you by the authors and experts at Crucial Learning, home of Crucial Conversations for Mastering Dialogue and Crucial Conversations for Accountability training.

    7 min

  3. APR 21

    The Manager’s Dilemma | Balancing Empathy and Accountability with Emily Gregory

    What makes a good leader? How do you balance caring about your people with holding high standards?  Hosts Brittney and Justin step aside to feature Emily Gregory, co-author of Crucial Conversations and a Crucial Learning Master Trainer, as she breaks down what she calls “the manager’s dilemma.” It highlights a common challenge: how leaders can care about their people while still holding them to high standards. Emily explains how managers can find the right balance between the two. It’s possible to lead with both empathy and accountability. And when you do, you build stronger relationships, improve performance, and create a healthier team culture. It starts with how you lead. Chapters [Start] Introducing Emily Gregory: Emily Gregory is introduced and brings up real-life examples of the manager’s dilemma. 05:30 The Gap Between Empathy and Accountability: Finding the balance between caring for your team and holding high standards. 15:05 Start With the Heart: How to build the skills to create the right balance. 26:51 The Six Sources of Influence: A look at six key areas of influence that can positively impact leadership. 39:21 Q&A With Emily: Q&A with Emily on navigating the manager’s dilemma. Links and Resources Crucial LearningCrucial Conversations for AccountabilityCrucial Accountability: Proven Skills to Build Trust, Address Disappointment, and Get Results Learn more about Emily Gregory here. The Crucial Skills Podcast is brought to you by the authors and experts at Crucial Learning, home of Crucial Conversations for Mastering Dialogue and Crucial Conversations for Accountability training.

    51 min

  4. APR 14

    Psychological Safety for Leaders | Creating Healthy Conversations in the Workplace

    You know psychological safety matters. But here's the part most people miss: your leaders need it too—and when they don't have it, it changes everything about how they show up in the room. Crucial Conversations coauthor Joseph Grenny brings to light the topic of creating psychological safety for leaders in conversation. Just like any other employee, people in leadership positions are prone to feeling misunderstood or overlooked during conversations, which can often lead to outward expressions of defensiveness. When faced with these difficult conversations, it is easy to fall back and protect your side of the discussion. Joseph walks through a real encounter with a leader, and how he was able to overcome it in a positive manner. This episode gives you the tools you need to create safe conversations not only for yourself, but also for those who serve in leadership positions around you. Everyone deserves to feel seen and heard at work, including our leaders. Chapters [Start] Psychological Safety at Work: Joseph Grenny introduces today’s episode about leaders feeling safe in conversations at work. 01:27 A Real Life Experience: Joseph shares a real-world experience about a conversation with a leader and how he handled it. 06:25 Making Informed Decisions: Learning to reframe the context of a conversation to see it from the leader’s perspective. 09:41 Takeaway for Leaders: Takeaways from today's episode for leaders and employees about healthy communication in the workplace. Links and Resources Crucial LearningThink Leaders Don’t Need Psychological Safety? Think Again The Crucial Skills Podcast is brought to you by the authors and experts at Crucial Learning, home of Crucial Conversations for Mastering Dialogue and Crucial Conversations for Accountability training.

    11 min

  5. APR 7

    Start With Heart: The First Step to Effective Communication | Shift Your Intentions to Improve Every Conversation

    There is one fundamental skill that determines whether a conversation leads to conflict or connection—and most people overlook it. Scott Robley explains why the most important part of any high-stakes conversation isn’t what you say, but the intent behind it. When emotions run high and opinions differ, your motives shape everything from trust to outcomes. Drawing on insights from the Crucial Conversations for Mastering Dialogue course, and decades of research, Scott explains the foundational skill, Start with Heart, a mindset that helps you stay focused and respectful, even in difficult conversations. Through stories and practical tools, you’ll learn how to shift from defensiveness to dialogue and create conversations that strengthen relationships instead of damaging them. Chapters [Start] Introduction to Crucial Skills: An overview of the podcast and the importance of communication behaviors in achieving meaningful results. 00:28 Start With Heart: The Core Principle: Scott introduces the foundational concept of “starting with heart” and explains why mastering the basics, like intent, matters more than advanced techniques. 03:23 What Makes a Conversation Crucial: What makes a conversation high-stakes; opposing opinions, strong emotions, and how these factors lead to silence or aggression 06:24 Work on Me First, Us Second: Why your motives, not other people, are often the real problem, and how self-awareness improves dialogue. 11:04 Focus on What You Really Want: A simple framework to realign your intentions and make sure your actions match what you really want. 25:26 Refuse the Fool’s Choice: How to move beyond the false tradeoff between honesty and respect by embracing both simultaneously. 29:14 Share Your Good Intent: The importance of clearly signaling your motives to create psychological safety and avoid misinterpretation. Links and Resources Crucial LearningStart with Heart: The First Step to Every Crucial ConversationStyle Under Stress AssessmentCrucial Conversations: Tools for Talking When Stakes are HighCrucial Conversations for Mastering Dialogue The Crucial Skills Podcast is brought to you by the authors and experts at Crucial Learning, home of Crucial Conversations for Mastering Dialogue and Crucial Conversations for Accountability training.

    35 min

  6. APR 7

    Welcome to the Crucial Skills Podcast

    The Crucial Skills Podcast is brought to you by the authors and experts at Crucial Learning, home of Crucial Conversations for Mastering Dialogue and Crucial Conversations for Accountability training.

    2 min

  7. APR 7

    Welcome to the Crucial Skills Podcast | Building Skills That Will Transform Your Conversations

    Welcome to the Crucial Skills podcast! Hosts Brittney Maxfield and Justin Hale share the mission, philosophy, and practical impact behind Crucial Learning’s work. The focus is on a small set of high-leverage communication behaviors—the ones that show up in high-stakes conversations and consistently determine whether things go well or sideways. Brittney and Justin emphasize that lasting change comes from mastering a few high-leverage behaviors and applying them consistently in everyday moments. They get specific about what high-stakes conversations actually look like—the ones that shape outcomes in relationships, teams, and organizations. Brittney and Jason draw on research and real examples to make the skills concrete—not just concepts to understand, but behaviors to practice. This episode serves as both an introduction and an invitation: start identifying the behaviors that matter most in your life and make the change today.  Chapters [Start] Welcome to the Crucial Skills Podcast: Brittney and Justin introduce the podcast, its mission, and expectations for future episodes. 01:30 Why Crucial Conversations Matter: Exploring high-stakes conversations and how they shape outcomes in different areas of life. 6:32 Meet the Hosts: The hosts share their personal journeys, backgrounds, and connection to Crucial Learning. 11:35 Crucial Conversation Tips: Simple tips you can start to implement in your conversations to make all the difference. 16:35 Looking Forward: What you can expect from the Crucial Skills podcast in the coming weeks. Links and Resources Crucial LearningCrucial Conversations: Tools for Talking When Stakes Are HighCrucial Influence: Leadership Skills to Create Lasting Behavior Change The Crucial Skills Podcast is brought to you by the authors and experts at Crucial Learning, home of Crucial Conversations for Mastering Dialogue and Crucial Conversations for Accountability training.

    18 min

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What if the biggest problems at work—and in life—aren’t about strategy, but about how we communicate and respond when it matters most? The Crucial Skills Podcast, by Crucial Learning, is where behavioral science meets real-life application. Each episode explores the skills that have the greatest impact on results, from turning disagreement into dialogue and holding others accountable, to building better habits, strengthening relationships, and leading lasting change. Grounded in decades of research and proven in organizations around the world, these are the skills that help you get better results—at work and at home. You’ll hear practical insights, relatable stories, and skills you can apply immediately. Whether you’re navigating a tough conversation, managing performance, improving your team dynamics, or trying to lead more effectively, this podcast gives you the tools to move forward with clarity and confidence. Because when you learn the skills that matter most, you improve yourself, your team, and your organization. 

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