Kids Like Ours

Bridgette McCullough and Molly Zwelling

Kids Like Ours is a podcast for parents raising children who feel deeply, struggle outwardly, and don’t fit the “typical” mold. Hosted by Bridgette McCullough and Molly Zwelling, this show dives into the real, messy, and often isolating experience of parenting kids with ADHD, ODD, and other invisible differences. Each episode blends honest storytelling, lived experience, and vulnerable conversations about what it’s like to raise kids like ours.

Episodes

  1. Sep 26

    Making School Work for Our Kids (with Meryl Duguay)

    Bridgette and Molly are joined by Meryl Duguay, a former special education teacher and founder of Duguay Educational Consulting & Advocacy, to talk about navigating schools when your child needs more support. Together they explore what parents should know when requesting an evaluation or IEP, what to do when a school pushes back, and how to advocate for your child while maintaining a productive relationship with the school team. They also talk about choosing a school for kids like ours, why test scores and rankings don't tell the whole story, and what parents should actually be looking for in a school environment. Connect with Meryl Duguay Educational Consulting & Advocacy  Special education advocacy and consulting for families navigating IEPs, evaluations, school supports, and the special education system. Meryl works with families across the U.S. and offers an initial 30-minute consultation through her website. Meryl’s parenting season song picks: Sierra Ferrell - Years Meryl chose Sierra Ferrell’s cover of “Years” because of how quickly her kids are growing up — and because of the complicated feeling of watching them reach new milestones while wishing you could slow time down.  Noah Kahan - You’re Gonna Go Far Inspired by a recent Noah Kahan concert — and by the fact that both of Meryl’s kids had recently learned to buckle their own seatbelts.  Additional Resources Mentioned The Arc of Colorado Meryl shared The Arc as a resource for families looking for advocacy support in Colorado. The Arc has chapters throughout Colorado, with local chapters providing advocacy services for children and adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities.  AdvocacyDenver A Colorado nonprofit that provides advocacy services for children and teens with disabilities and their families, including child advocacy and special education legal support. Meryl specifically mentioned AdvocacyDenver as a resource in the Denver area.  Terms referenced: IEP (Individualized Education Program) A formal plan that outlines the special education services, supports, accommodations, and measurable goals a student needs to access education. Meryl emphasized that an IEP is a living document and that parents are meaningful members of the IEP team. Child Find A school district's responsibility to identify, locate, and evaluate students who may need special education services. Meryl discussed Child Find in the context of schools identifying students who may qualify for support, as well as parents' right to make a referral themselves. Procedural safeguards The rights and protections available to families throughout the special education process. Meryl encouraged parents to understand their procedural safeguards and know what recourse is available if they disagree with a school's evaluation or decisions. Prior Written Notice Documentation from a school explaining when it proposes or refuses to initiate or change the identification, evaluation, educational placement, or provision of a free appropriate public education for a child with a disability. Meryl discussed the importance of having decisions and refusals documented rather than relying on verbal conversations. Compensatory education Services or other remedies that may be available when a student did not receive services they were entitled to under special education law. Meryl discussed this in the context of students whose needs were identified later than they should have been. A note from us: We are not experts in special education law, and this episode is not legal advice. Special education rules and processes can vary by state, so use the resources available in your own state and seek qualified guidance when needed.

  2. Jul 27

    Rethinking Our Kids Behavior (with Kelsie Olds)

    What if the goal isn't to stop your kid's challenging behaviors, but to better understand them? In this episode, Kelsie Olds, an occupational therapist, writer behind The Occuplaytional Therapist, and author of Your Child's Point of View, joins the podcast to explain why curiosity works better than punishment, why "teach them a lesson" often means something harsher than we admit, and how to give ourselves the same grace we're trying to give our kids.  It's honest, practical, and occasionally a gut-check. Connect with Kelsie The Occuplaytional Therapist Featuring Kelsie's writing on parenting, behavior, and occupational therapy. Kelsie on Facebook Long-form, story-driven posts on parenting and behavior. Kelsie's Book Your Child's Point of View: Understanding the Reasons Kids Do Unreasonable Things A one-page-at-a-time book reframing common parenting struggles from the child's perspective, with practical solutions and a bonus section on the parent's own inner child. Kelsie's parenting season song pick: Chris Patrick - Alley Oop Additional resources mentioned: The Explosive Child by Ross Greene Referenced for its philosophy that kids do well if they can, and that challenging behavior often means a child is missing a skill needed to meet a demand. The Good Inside by Dr. Beck Kennedy Referenced for her point about the mental health cost to a child who is consistently treated as "the bad kid." Terms referenced: Gestalt language learner A language-development pattern where a child learns and communicates in whole memorized scripts, phrases, or songs before breaking them down into their own original speech. Proprioception The sensory system responsible for body awareness and regulation; often a factor in why kids seek out physical actions like hitting, kicking, or throwing. Restorative justice vs. retributive justice Restorative justice focuses on repairing harm and community; retributive justice focuses on punishment for its own sake. We are not experts — just parents sharing what we're learning in real time. If any of these terms are new to you, you're not alone. We're learning too.

  3. Jul 2

    Delighting in Our Kids (and Letting Go of the Shoulds)

    How much of parenting is made harder by all the expectations we carry? In this episode, Bridgette and Molly explore the “shoulds” they’ve let go of while raising neurodivergent kids. They also discuss the idea of delighting in our children: getting curious about the things they love, appreciating what makes them unique, and intentionally balancing out a world that often focuses on their struggles. It's a feel good conversation about letting go, celebrating the good, and finding more joy alongside the challenges of raising kids like ours. Resources Mentioned Parenting a Spicy One by Mary Van Geffen A compassionate guide to raising deep-feeling, strong-willed kids with practical strategies for staying calm, setting boundaries, and building a connected relationship. Terms Mentioned DelightingIntentionally noticing, enjoying, and expressing genuine pleasure in who your child is—not just what they accomplish or how they behave. Delighting helps strengthen connection, especially during challenging seasons of parenting. Body DoublingA strategy where someone works alongside another person while they complete a task. The other person doesn't need to help—they simply provide a calming, motivating presence that can make it easier to get started and stay focused. The "Shoulds"The expectations we place on ourselves, our children, or our families about how parenting is supposed to look. Letting go of these expectations can reduce stress and make room for more joy and connection. Yes DayA planned day when parents say "yes" to as many reasonable requests as possible within agreed-upon limits, giving children an opportunity to lead and connect with their family. We are not experts — just parents sharing what we're learning in real time. If any of these terms are new to you, you're not alone. We're learning too.

  4. Jun 2

    Our Worst Moments (and What We're Trying Now)

    It’s not easy to admit your worst parenting moments. But pretending they don’t happen is what can make people feel so isolated. In this episode, Bridgette and Molly open up about the moments they’re least proud of. The times they’ve become completely dysregulated themselves, reacted in ways they’d love to take back, and what they’re learning as they move forward. Resources Mentioned Raising Lions by Joe Newman Offers practical strategies for raising strong-willed, challenging children by focusing on compassionate discipline, clear boundaries, and building parental authority. Terms Mentioned Co-regulation The process of helping a child regulate their emotions through a calm, supportive connection with another person. Rather than expecting children to manage overwhelming emotions alone, co-regulation involves adults modeling and supporting emotional regulation until those skills develop. Repair The act of reconnecting after conflict, mistakes, or emotional outbursts. Repair may include acknowledging what happened, apologizing, validating feelings, and rebuilding trust. Emotion Chart Visual tool that helps children identify and communicate their emotions. These can support emotional awareness and regulation by giving children language for what they're experiencing. We are not experts — just parents sharing what we're learning in real time. If any of these terms are new to you, you're not alone. We're learning too.

  5. May 14

    Working While Raising Kids Like Ours (with Michelle Yu)

    Bridgette and Molly welcome their first guest, Michelle Yu, founder of Josie, a company helping organizations better support working parents and caregivers through coaching, community, and resources designed for the realities families face. Together they talk about what parents are carrying behind the scenes, why so many caregivers feel stretched to their limits, and how workplaces can create cultures where people can actually thrive. They also explore the added layers that come with parenting neurodivergent kids, the power of finding people who get it, and why support often matters more than solutions. Connect with Michelle Josie Coaching, content, and community designed to help working parents and caregivers navigate transitions and feel supported both at home and at work. Michelle Yu on LinkedIn Follow Michelle’s work and insights on workplace culture, caregiving, and supporting working parents. Michelle’s parenting season song pick: ⁠The Strokes - The End Has No End⁠ Additional Resources Mentioned Spring Health A workplace mental health platform that connects employees and families with therapy, coaching, care navigation, and personalized mental health support through employer-sponsored benefits. Family First Caregiver support that helps families navigate healthcare needs, care coordination, and family logistics. Cariloop Employer-sponsored caregiving support offering guidance, planning tools, and care coaches for families managing caregiving responsibilities. Homethrive Personalized caregiving support that helps families manage everything from aging parents to complex care needs. Deborah Porter "The Mom Coach" Parent coach and speaker who supports moms navigating the challenges of parenting and family life. Michelle referenced Deborah’s perspective that parenting doesn’t necessarily get easier—it changes.

  6. Apr 19

    Our School Experience (So Far)

    In this episode, Bridgette and Molly open up about their school journeys — from early concerns to IEPs, starting over at new schools, trialing medication, and everything in between. They share the emotional reality of advocating for kids who are often misunderstood and what it’s taken to find the right support. Resources Mentioned ⁠The Explosive Child⁠ by: Dr. Ross W. Greene Introduces collaborative problem solving and the idea that “kids do well if they can.” ⁠Raising Kids with Big Baffling Behaviors⁠ by: Robyn Gobbel Discusses behavior through a nervous-system lens and asks what children need to feel safe, regulated, and supported. Terms Mentioned ADHD (Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder) A neurodevelopmental condition that affects attention, impulsivity, emotional regulation, and executive functioning. ADHD impacts much more than focus and activity levels. ODD (Oppositional Defiant Disorder) A pattern of intense irritability, emotional reactivity, and resistance to demands that goes beyond typical childhood behavior. IEP (Individualized Education Program) A school plan that provides individualized supports and accommodations for students with identified needs. 504 Plan A school accommodation plan that provides supports to help students access learning but typically offers fewer specialized services than an IEP. RSD (Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria) An intense emotional reaction to real or perceived rejection, criticism, or disappointment. Trauma Emotional responses that can develop after difficult or overwhelming experiences. Trauma-Informed Approach A way of supporting children that recognizes behavior may be connected to stress, difficult experiences, or nervous-system overwhelm. Unsafe Behaviors A term schools often use for actions that create risk to the child or others, including aggression, property destruction, or behaviors that require additional intervention. Occupational Therapy (OT) A therapy approach that helps children build everyday skills related to regulation, sensory needs, and independence. Speech-Language Pathologist (SLP) A specialist who supports communication skills, including speech, language, social communication, and sometimes emotional or behavioral needs that impact interactions. Behavior Specialist A professional who helps identify patterns behind challenging behaviors and develops strategies and supports to help children succeed across settings. Emotional Regulation The ability to recognize, process, and manage emotions. Many children struggle with regulation when overwhelmed or stressed. Dysregulation A state where a child becomes overwhelmed and loses access to coping or self-regulation skills. We are not experts — just parents sharing what we're learning in real time. If any of these terms are new to you, you're not alone. We're learning too.

  7. Apr 16

    Introducing Kids Like Ours

    In their very first episode, Bridgette and Molly share who they are, how they met, and the moments they realized parenting wasn’t going to look the way they thought it would. From early observations to formal diagnoses, they open up about what it really means to raise kids like theirs. Resource Mentioned ⁠In a February episode of the Full-Tilt Parenting podcast titled:  A Conversation with Dr. Ross Greene About the Kids Who Aren’t Okay⁠, Ross Greene discussed the idea of “the unlucky kids.” The idea resonated deeply with us: some children show pain quietly and receive comfort, while others show it through behaviors like yelling, hitting, running, or exploding and are often met with correction first. Terms Mentioned ADHD (Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder) A neurodevelopmental condition that affects attention, impulsivity, emotional regulation, and executive functioning. ADHD impacts much more than focus and activity levels. ODD (Oppositional Defiant Disorder) A pattern of intense irritability, emotional reactivity, and resistance to demands that goes beyond typical childhood behavior. IEP (Individualized Education Program) A school plan that provides individualized supports and accommodations for students with identified needs. Sensory Processing Disorder Difficulty processing sensory information, which can lead children to seek or avoid certain sensory experiences. Neurodivergent / Neurodivergence A term describing brains that work differently from what is considered neurologically typical. RSD (Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria) An intense emotional reaction to real or perceived rejection, criticism, or disappointment. (Incorrectly referred to as Rejection Sensitivity Disorder in this episode) PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance / Persistent Drive for Autonomy) A profile involving extreme avoidance of demands, often connected to anxiety and a strong need for autonomy. Anxiety Persistent fear, worry, or nervous-system activation that can affect behavior and daily life. Trauma Emotional responses that can develop after difficult or overwhelming experiences. Occupational Therapy (OT) A therapy approach that helps children build everyday skills related to regulation, sensory needs, and independence. Invisible Disability Challenges that may not be visible to others, even though they significantly affect daily life. Dysregulation A state where a child becomes overwhelmed and loses access to coping or self-regulation skills. Fight, Flight, Freeze Automatic stress responses that can show up as aggression, avoidance, shutting down, or explosive behavior. Proprioception / Proprioceptive Input The body's sense of where it is in space. Some children seek movement, crashing, pressure, or rough play to help regulate. (Referred to as the "P" word in this episode.) Strong Sense of Justice Some neurodivergent children may be highly aware of fairness and rules, even while struggling with their own regulation. Anger Iceberg A framework showing that anger often sits on top of deeper emotions like sadness, fear, shame, or overwhelm. We are not experts — just parents sharing what we're learning in real time. If any of these terms are new to you, you're not alone. We're learning too.

About

Kids Like Ours is a podcast for parents raising children who feel deeply, struggle outwardly, and don’t fit the “typical” mold. Hosted by Bridgette McCullough and Molly Zwelling, this show dives into the real, messy, and often isolating experience of parenting kids with ADHD, ODD, and other invisible differences. Each episode blends honest storytelling, lived experience, and vulnerable conversations about what it’s like to raise kids like ours.

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