Better Way To Build with Shay Cochrane

Shay Cochrane
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What the world teaches about how to be successful is costing most entrepreneurs their marriages, mental and physical health, peace, and families. Thankfully, there's a better way to build that allows you to be wildly successful without losing everything that matters to you along the way. Welcome to the Better Way to Build Podcast brought to you by Ilūme Network. Your host, Shay Cochrane, is an entrepreneur for over 20 years, multi-business owner, Bible teacher, and business coach who has generated millions in revenue working just a 16 hr work week. We believe God isn't distant or disconnected from your work - He's your greatest strategic partner and the wisdom of the Bible provides a blueprint for a better way - full of practical, actionable strategies for true, sustainable, measurable success in EVERY aspect of your life and business. This podcast exists to help driven, high-capacity entrepreneurs deepen their faith and partnership with God while still accelerating their scale and impact in business. Every week we will pull tangible, actionable, business strategies - ones that you can implement right now - from the pages of Scripture — because you have a God who is in it with you, who has everything you need to build in a healthier more sustainable way, and who is just waiting for you to ask. We'll cover things like: - How to actually hear God's voice of leadership and counsel in your business so the weight of it's success is not all on you - The practical wisdom the Bible has for the decisions you're making right now - How to trade burnout and hustle culture for a more peaceful, sustainable and values-aligned path to business success - What it looks like to let God lead you in business (and life) — in a way that's tangible, not theoretical God has wisdom, resources, and strategy waiting for you and He wants to be actively involved in every part of your business and life. This is the Better Way To Build Podcast — where faith meets business, and the Bible gets to work. Ilūme Network is a national faith-based entrepreneurial network for 6,7 and 8 figure Christian female business owners focused on elite mentorship, kingdom-business strategy and peer collaboration. Find out more and apply today at www.ilumenetwork.com.

  1. 5d ago

    26. What If the Most Abundant Decision Was Actually Cutting Back? Ft. Robin Long

    If you've been looking for a woman who has built something wildly successful while protecting her marriage, her kids, her health, and her faith — this is the episode you've been waiting for.   Shay sits down with Robin Long, founder of Lindywell, a Pilates and wellness app serving tens of thousands of women in more than 80 countries, for one of the most honest and grounding conversations this podcast has had. Robin walks through what mentorship has looked like across 11 years of building — from her first coach who nudged her to get on video, to a $30,000 mastermind she almost didn't join that changed everything — and what it's looked like to learn to hear God's voice when it was asking her to do something she didn't expect, including scaling her team back down. She and Shay talk about loneliness in entrepreneurship, protecting marriage when you and your spouse both work in the business, leading a team of mostly moms on a four-day work week, and what it actually looks like to trust God with the outcome when you have employees depending on you.   If you've ever felt too ambitious for your faith circles and too faith-forward for your business circles — this episode is proof you're not alone, and Robin Long is a woman worth emulating in both.   Robin Long is the Founder, CEO, and Lead Instructor of Lindywell, a global wellness platform that reaches millions of women in more than a hundred countries around the world.    Robin pioneered bringing pilates to the online space, making her teaching inclusive and affordable; in 2022, Women's Health named the Lindywell the best pilates app of the year. She is also a mom of four and the author of the number one selling Pilates book on Amazon, "Well to the Core."   Robin is transforming lives with her "Grace Over Guilt" approach, helping women care for their well-being so they can live life to the fullest.   Chapters   00:00 Introduction to Robin Long and her journey 03:20 Robin shares her background and mission with Lindywell 05:48 The team and partnership dynamics at Lindywell 08:16 Robin's entrepreneurial beginnings and mentorship experiences 11:23 The role of mentorship in breaking through ceilings 16:22 Seasons of growth and seeking peer support 22:19 The church's view on female entrepreneurs and ambition 23:50 Partnering with God in business: practical insights 28:50 Trusting divine guidance during hard decisions 32:25 The balance of success, sacrifice, and values 37:13 Protecting family and values while leading a large company 43:29 Robin's approach to marriage and business partnership 44:24 Robin's resources: social media, book, and wellness platform   Ilūme Network is a faith-based, application-only, entrepreneurial network for 6-8 figure Christian female entrepreneurs who want mentorship from women ahead of them in business, peer support and accountability from value-aligned women at their level, a deeper, more vibrant partnership with God in business and a room where the conversations go beyond revenue and goals to how you are really doing in the rest of life. Find out more at www.ilumenetwork.com.   Join the Ilume Network: https://www.ilumenetwork.com/ Get a preview of the mentorship inside Ilūme: https://www.ilumenetwork.com/growth  Follow Shay: https://www.instagram.com/shaycochrane/ Follow Ilūme Network: https://www.instagram.com/ilumenetwork/

  2. Oct 19

    25. Do you need a business miracle?

    If your business feels like it's in crisis right now, this episode will reframe everything about what that actually means.   Shay makes the case from Scripture that crisis isn't a sign of God's absence — it's one of the primary settings where He shows up miraculously. Walking through the Red Sea, the widow's oil, Shadrach and his friends in the furnace, Lazarus — she traces the pattern that biblical miracles almost always happen at the point of human impossibility, then applies it directly to the hard seasons every entrepreneur faces. She shares her own story of stepping out in obedience to church plant in Florida, ending up on food stamps, and how that desperate season became the birthplace of everything God built next.   Whatever you've been holding out for in your business — this episode is your invitation to open your hands and trust what's possible on the other side of the hard.   Chapters   00:00 Introduction: Miracles in Difficult Seasons 01:55 Personal Stories of Miracles and Faith 04:13 Biblical Examples of Miracles in Crisis 08:02 Why Miracles Often Happen in Intense Circumstances 10:53 Dependence on God in Wilderness and Crisis 13:10 Strength in Weakness and God's Power 15:15 Obedience as a Pathway to Miracles 18:00 Obedience in Challenging Situations 19:46 Encouragement to Trust and Surrender 24:05 Prayers and Blessings for Difficult Seasons   Ilūme Network is a faith-based, application-only, entrepreneurial network for 6-8 figure Christian female entrepreneurs who want mentorship from women ahead of them in business, peer support and accountability from value-aligned women at their level, a deeper, more vibrant partnership with God in business and a room where the conversations go beyond revenue and goals to how you are really doing in the rest of life. Find out more at www.ilumenetwork.com.   Join the Ilume Network: https://www.ilumenetwork.com/ Get a preview of the mentorship inside Ilūme: https://www.ilumenetwork.com/growth  Follow Shay: https://www.instagram.com/shaycochrane/ Follow Ilūme Network: https://www.instagram.com/ilumenetwork

  3. Oct 12

    24. Build It Messy: One Year of Going Ugly Early With Ilūme Network

    Your goals may not be where you hoped — and this episode will give you permission to be proud of yourself anyway.   One year after publicly announcing Ilūme Network, Shay sits down for an honest personal reflection on what building something new has actually looked like: the insecurities she didn't expect, the goals she hasn't hit, the things God confirmed before she even started, and why she keeps throttling back growth to protect her marriage, her kids, and the season she's in. This isn't a highlight reel — it's the real internal processing of an entrepreneur who's surrendering pace and outcome to the Lord and learning what it means to adventure with Him even when the path is foggy.   Wherever you are in your building journey heading into Q4, this episode is your invitation to look back, acknowledge what you've done, and tell yourself you're proud.   Chapters   00:00 Facing Personal Narratives and Limiting Beliefs 03:42 Reflecting on a Year of Building and Launching 07:46 The Revelation of Building a National Christian Women's Entrepreneurial Network 11:02 Trusting God's Provision and Timing 14:17 Overcoming Insecurity and Embracing Limitations 17:10 Celebrating a Year of Growth and God's Faithfulness 18:07 Challenges of Showing Up on Camera and Content Creation 19:01 Balancing Excellence and Imperfection in Content 20:27 Leaning Into Uniqueness and Authenticity 22:22 Measuring Effectiveness and Impact in Business 23:50 Balancing Family, Capacity, and Business Growth 24:47 Working on Personal Narratives and Self-Belief 26:07 Upcoming In-Person Event and Community Retreats 28:25 Building Community Through In-Person Connections 29:51 Inviting Women to Join the Loom Network 30:46 Future Plans for Regional Gatherings and Retreats 33:30 God's Provision and Support in Building the Network 34:42 Encouragement to Celebrate Progress and Trust God's Timing 39:01 Adventuring with the Lord in Entrepreneurship 43:24 Prayers for Blessing, Presence, and Deep Love for God's Word   Ilūme Network is a faith-based, application-only, entrepreneurial network for 6-8 figure Christian female entrepreneurs who want mentorship from women ahead of them in business, peer support and accountability from value-aligned women at their level, a deeper, more vibrant partnership with God in business and a room where the conversations go beyond revenue and goals to how you are really doing in the rest of life. Find out more at www.ilumenetwork.com.   Join the Ilume Network: https://www.ilumenetwork.com/ Get a preview of the mentorship inside Ilūme: https://www.ilumenetwork.com/growth  Follow Shay: https://www.instagram.com/shaycochrane/ Follow Ilūme Network: https://www.instagram.com/ilumenetwork/

  4. Oct 5

    23. The Real Reason You Are Stuck

    The real enemy of your growth in business isn't laziness, distraction, or lack of strategy — and this episode will prove it.   Shay makes the case from Genesis to John 15 that self-sufficiency is the single biggest growth blocker in God's economy — and that the solution isn't more discipline or better information, but a willingness to ask: ask God, and ask others. She unpacks why we were designed for dependency from the very beginning, what Jesus' name "I Am" actually reveals about how God wants to meet our needs, and why the women inside Ilūme Network who grow the fastest are the ones most willing to expose what they don't know.   If you've been grinding alone and calling it ownership, this episode is the invitation to put it down and ask.   Chapters   00:00 Introduction: The real enemy of growth in business and life 01:49 Identifying the true enemy: Self-sufficiency versus other challenges 05:06 The biblical foundation of dependency: Genesis and God's design 07:03 The significance of community and interdependence in God's plan 09:52 The name 'I am' and God's provision for our needs 11:58 The importance of asking God and others for help 16:07 Overcoming pride and the barriers to asking for help 19:49 Building community in business: The role of mentorship and support 25:03 Practical steps to depend on God and others for growth 29:50 Closing prayer and encouragement to embrace dependence   Ilūme Network is a faith-based, application-only, entrepreneurial network for 6-8 figure Christian female entrepreneurs who want mentorship from women ahead of them in business, peer support and accountability from value-aligned women at their level, a deeper, more vibrant partnership with God in business and a room where the conversations go beyond revenue and goals to how you are really doing in the rest of life. Find out more at www.ilumenetwork.com.   Join the Ilume Network: https://www.ilumenetwork.com/ Get a preview of the mentorship inside Ilūme: https://www.ilumenetwork.com/growth  Follow Shay: https://www.instagram.com/shaycochrane/ Follow Ilūme Network: https://www.instagram.com/ilumenetwork/

  5. Sep 28

    22. Let God Be the CEO. (What 11 Years of Building With Him Actually Looks Like)

    If you've ever wondered whether God actually wants to weigh in on your hiring decisions, your partnerships, and your business pivots — or whether that's just wishful thinking — this conversation will settle it.   Shay sits down with Natasha Miller, co-founder of Called Coach Institute and Ilūme Network member, for one of the most grounded and honest conversations this podcast has hosted about what it actually looks like to hear God's voice in business — not theoretically, but decision by decision, season by season. Natasha and her husband Jamal have built multiple businesses together, lost hundreds of thousands in a pivot they didn't pray through, and then rebuilt from scratch into a program that has now certified over 1,800 spirit-led coaches. She shares the framework she and Jamal use to pursue God's direction before big decisions, what she looks for when she's not sure if it's Him or just her own thoughts, and how she held her faith together through the seasons where she followed God and things fell apart anyway. If you've been keeping faith in one box and business in another, this is the episode that collapses the wall between them.   Chapters    00:00 Introduction to Natasha Miller and her journey in faith and business 01:56 The importance of hearing God's voice outside of scripture 03:59 Navigating seasons of uncertainty and failure 05:53 Partnering with God for divine guidance in decision-making 07:59 The role of wisdom and peace in making business decisions 09:46 How prophetic words and divine confirmation influence choices 12:00 Trusting God's timing during transitions and pivots 14:04 Balancing ambition with surrender and faith 16:01 Lessons learned from setbacks and trusting God's plan 18:02 The significance of legacy and empowering others 20:09 Personal stories of divine guidance and obedience 21:59 Encouragement for entrepreneurs navigating valleys and peaks 23:55 Practical ways to seek God's direction in business 26:04 The prize of knowing God and partnering with Him in entrepreneurship 28:00 Final thoughts on faith, trust, and divine guidance in business   Ilūme Network is a faith-based, application-only, entrepreneurial network for 6-8 figure Christian female entrepreneurs who want mentorship from women ahead of them in business, peer support and accountability from value-aligned women at their level, a deeper, more vibrant partnership with God in business and a room where the conversations go beyond revenue and goals to how you are really doing in the rest of life. Find out more at www.ilumenetwork.com.   Join the Ilume Network: https://www.ilumenetwork.com/ Get a preview of the mentorship inside Ilūme: https://www.ilumenetwork.com/growth  Follow Shay: https://www.instagram.com/shaycochrane/ Follow Ilūme Network: https://www.instagram.com/ilumenetwork/

  6. Sep 21

    21. Struggling to Hear God's Voice in Business? Do This.

    If your mind is too loud to hear God right now — this episode is your way back in.   Shay shares the one practice she has used for three years that consistently gets her into the presence of God — even on the most anxious, overwhelming mornings — and backs it up with both Psalm 100:4 and the neuroscience that proves why it works. She introduces two versions of the practice: a simple daily 10-item gratitude list that rewires your brain's default track over time, and a deeper situational practice for specific seasons of setback or struggle in business or marriage.   Thanksgiving isn't just a posture — it's the door. And if you've been wandering around outside the wall, this episode shows you where the gate is.   Chapters   00:00 Gratitude's Impact on Brain and Longevity 01:35 Partnership with God in Business 02:30 Silence and Seasons of Waiting 03:57 The Secret Strategy to Connect with God 08:14 The Power of Gratitude in Scripture 19:06 Neuroscience of Gratitude and Brain Rewiring 20:59 Gratitude and Longevity 23:56 Two Practical Gratitude Strategies 36:47 Recap and Practical Application   Ilūme Network is a faith-based, application-only, entrepreneurial network for 6-8 figure Christian female entrepreneurs who want mentorship from women ahead of them in business, peer support and accountability from value-aligned women at their level, a deeper, more vibrant partnership with God in business and a room where the conversations go beyond revenue and goals to how you are really doing in the rest of life. Find out more at www.ilumenetwork.com.   Join the Ilume Network: https://ilumenetwork.com/ Get a preview of the mentorship inside Ilūme: https://www.ilumenetwork.com/growth  Follow Shay: https://www.instagram.com/shaycochrane/ Follow Ilūme Network: https://www.instagram.com/ilumenetwork/

  7. Sep 14

    20. Too Many Problems to Solve? — Actually, You Only Have One

    If you're tired of solving the same business problems on repeat, this episode will show you why you're solving them at the wrong level.   Shay introduces the concept of a keystone solution — the one ask that makes most other problems disappear — and builds the case from 1 Kings 3 that Solomon became the wealthiest, wisest leader who ever lived not by solving a million problems, but by asking God for the one thing that prevented them: wisdom and discernment. She walks through Solomon's three-part framework (Servant, Sight, and Source) and shows exactly how to bring it into the decisions, hires, and challenges sitting on your desk this week.   Stop asking God to fix 50 problems and start asking for the wisdom that keeps them from happening in the first place — and if this reframes how you've been praying over your business, send it to another entrepreneur who needs to hear it.   Chapters   00:00 Introduction: The Power of Wisdom in Business 02:46 Making One Shift for Downstream Benefits 05:06 Identifying Your Biggest Business Ask 07:21 Solomon's Prayer for Wisdom and Discernment 09:47 What Would You Ask for if Given a Wish? 12:10 Seeking God's Guidance Daily 13:39 The Danger of Self-Confidence in Business Decisions 14:30 The Need for Divine Discernment 15:54 Humility and Admitting Lack of Knowledge 17:32 The Power of Asking God for Wisdom 18:18 Solomon's Example: Wisdom as the Keystone Solution 19:17 Ask for Wisdom to Solve or Prevent Problems 20:11 The Importance of Asking God for Discernment 21:32 Downstream Problems vs Keystone Solutions 22:53 God as the Primary Source of Wisdom 25:32 The Promise of Divine Wisdom and Prosperity 26:58 Three Keys: Servant, Sight, and Source 27:27 The Ultimate Source of Wisdom: God 28:22 Practical Application: Seek Divine Wisdom Daily 29:19 Closing Prayer and Encouragement   Ilūme Network is a faith-based, application-only, entrepreneurial network for 6-8 figure Christian female entrepreneurs who want mentorship from women ahead of them in business, peer support and accountability from value-aligned women at their level, a deeper, more vibrant partnership with God in business and a room where the conversations go beyond revenue and goals to how you are really doing in the rest of life. Find out more at www.ilumenetwork.com.   Join the Ilume Network: https://www.ilumenetwork.com/ Get a preview of the mentorship inside Ilūme: https://www.ilumenetwork.com/growth  Follow Shay: https://www.instagram.com/shaycochrane/ Follow Ilūme Network: https://www.instagram.com/ilumenetwork/

  8. Sep 7

    19. Stop Performing for Authority. Start Building From Identity.

    If you've been grinding to earn your place in the marketplace — anxious, exhausted, and afraid to slow down — this episode will show you the game you've unknowingly been playing and what it looks like to opt out.   Shay draws a sharp line between two completely different business economies: the kingdom of the world, where authority comes from impressive performance, and the kingdom of God, where authority comes from identity and alignment with Him. She shares her own story of walking into a room of eight-figure entrepreneurs feeling like she had nothing to offer — and what happened when she stopped trying to perform her way to confidence and started doing the identity work instead. She walks through what it practically looks like to ask God who He says you are, references Jamie Winship's Living Fearless, and shows how everything — strategy, clarity, confidence, answered prayer — flows out of that one foundational shift.   If you're tired of fighting for a position that God has already given you, this episode is the permission to stop.   Chapters   00:00 Introduction to Kingdom Principles in Business 02:00 Fleeting Nature of Worldly Authority 04:22 Kingdom of God vs Kingdom of the World in Business 07:38 Personal Journey of Identity and Confidence 10:22 Walking in Confidence Through Identity Work 12:39 Layers of Identity Revelation 16:16 The Power of God's Identity and Names 18:37 Living Out Your God-Given Identity 21:28 Freedom to Try and Follow God's Call 24:16 Rewards of Obedience and Alignment with God 25:35 Praying in Line with God's Will 26:31 The Path of Walking in God's Will 27:31 Path Cleared by Walking in God's Will 28:00 Operating with God-Given Confidence and Authority 29:22 Practical Steps to Activate Identity and Alignment 30:19 Asking God for Your True Identity 31:16 Choosing God's Way Over the World's 32:14 The Better Way to Build in Business 33:32 Praying for Boldness and Clarity 34:31 Sharing the Message to Dispel Exhaustion in Entrepreneurship   Ilūme Network is a faith-based, application-only, entrepreneurial network for 6-8 figure Christian female entrepreneurs who want mentorship from women ahead of them in business, peer support and accountability from value-aligned women at their level, a deeper, more vibrant partnership with God in business and a room where the conversations go beyond revenue and goals to how you are really doing in the rest of life. Find out more at www.ilumenetwork.com.   Join the Ilume Network: https://www.ilumenetwork.com/ Get a preview of the mentorship inside Ilūme: https://www.ilumenetwork.com/growth  Follow Shay: https://www.instagram.com/shaycochrane/ Follow Ilūme Network: https://www.instagram.com/ilumenetwork/ Jaime Winship Book Living Fearless

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What the world teaches about how to be successful is costing most entrepreneurs their marriages, mental and physical health, peace, and families. Thankfully, there's a better way to build that allows you to be wildly successful without losing everything that matters to you along the way. Welcome to the Better Way to Build Podcast brought to you by Ilūme Network. Your host, Shay Cochrane, is an entrepreneur for over 20 years, multi-business owner, Bible teacher, and business coach who has generated millions in revenue working just a 16 hr work week. We believe God isn't distant or disconnected from your work - He's your greatest strategic partner and the wisdom of the Bible provides a blueprint for a better way - full of practical, actionable strategies for true, sustainable, measurable success in EVERY aspect of your life and business. This podcast exists to help driven, high-capacity entrepreneurs deepen their faith and partnership with God while still accelerating their scale and impact in business. Every week we will pull tangible, actionable, business strategies - ones that you can implement right now - from the pages of Scripture — because you have a God who is in it with you, who has everything you need to build in a healthier more sustainable way, and who is just waiting for you to ask. We'll cover things like: - How to actually hear God's voice of leadership and counsel in your business so the weight of it's success is not all on you - The practical wisdom the Bible has for the decisions you're making right now - How to trade burnout and hustle culture for a more peaceful, sustainable and values-aligned path to business success - What it looks like to let God lead you in business (and life) — in a way that's tangible, not theoretical God has wisdom, resources, and strategy waiting for you and He wants to be actively involved in every part of your business and life. This is the Better Way To Build Podcast — where faith meets business, and the Bible gets to work. Ilūme Network is a national faith-based entrepreneurial network for 6,7 and 8 figure Christian female business owners focused on elite mentorship, kingdom-business strategy and peer collaboration. Find out more and apply today at www.ilumenetwork.com.

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