Neurogenic Integration Podcast

Alex

Listen to conversations and interviews hosted by Neurogenic Integration, where we explore Neurogenic Tremoring, nervous system health, and real human experiences.

  1. Jul 3

    E23 - One World, One Family: 1,000 TRE® Workshops Across Indonesia with Hindra Gunawan

    A betrayed business partner. Five years of anger and sleepless nights. A vow of forgiveness that the mind made but the body refused to keep. That was Hindra Gunawan's life before he found Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises (TRE®) — and a seven-minute phone call afterward showed him something had changed at a level no amount of willpower had reached. In this episode, Alex sits down with Hindra Gunawan — Indonesia's first TRE provider and now its certification trainer — to trace that arc: from physics teacher to tuition-center entrepreneur; from the betrayal that stole his sleep to the training room in Singapore where sixty people tremored and he didn't; from paying for radio spots he couldn't yet explain to reaching more than 40,000 Indonesians; and from a single vow in Phoenix, Arizona — "TRE must be learned by all Indonesian people" — to celebrating his team's 1,000th workshop with Dr. David Berceli. Along the way: leading Neurogenic Tremoring safely with 600 soldiers at a time, the Shaka Foundation's work with teachers, police, and disaster survivors, the durian farm he planted to fund it all, and the 3 a.m. phone commitment every Indonesian provider makes to their alumni. Hindra Gunawan is a TRE® certification trainer and provider based in Jakarta, Indonesia. A former physics teacher and education entrepreneur, he became Indonesia's first TRE provider in 2013 and has since built one of the most active TRE communities in the world — over 1,000 workshops delivered and more than 40,000 people reached. He leads TRE Indonesia and co-founded the Shaka Foundation with Dr. David Berceli, a not-for-profit bringing TRE to teachers, police, military personnel, and communities affected by natural disasters across Indonesia. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 0:00   Welcome & introductions — a decade of inspiration 5:57   The physics teacher whose students wouldn't let him go  7:38   Building a tuition-center business — five branches and a franchise  9:46   The betrayal that brought five years of anger and sleepless nights  10:48   "I said I forgive them — but when I heard their voice, the anger came back"  12:19   Sixty people tremoring in Singapore — and Hindra didn't  13:19   The second training: anger rising from stomach to throat  15:01   The seven-minute phone call that changed everything  16:00   Phoenix, 2013 — "TRE must be learned by all Indonesian people"  20:20   Radio ads he couldn't explain — and 40,000 people later  22:50   The Shaka Foundation: disasters, guardians, and teachers  27:39   A durian farm with a mission  31:05   "Almost every day I get a testimonial" — what Hindra is most proud of  33:40   Why people stop — the wound-washing analogy and lifelong free gatherings  36:46   Leading Neurogenic Tremoring safely with groups of 600  43:57   The 3 a.m. commitment every Indonesian provider makes  49:23   An earthquake, a traumatized boy, and what the tremors made possible  52:31   Tremor stigma in Indonesian culture — "this is very natural"  57:11   "TRE is a gift" — one world, one family 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS Connect with Hindra Gunawan — TRE® certification trainer in Jakarta, Indonesia, leader of TRE Indonesia and co-founder of the Shaka Foundation. https://www.treindonesia.com/  Also mentioned: Dr. David Berceli (creator of TRE®, co-founder of the Shaka Foundation), Chris Balsley (Hindra's first TRE teacher), TRE Indonesia, and the Shaka Foundation. (Full links in the internal notes below.) 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

    1h 3m

  2. Jun 26

    E22 - Neurogenic Tremoring as a Dynamic Superpower for Kids with Vera Live, Špela Potočnik & Katja Jarc

    Most people meet Neurogenic Tremoring through trauma work. This conversation asks a different question: what if kids learned it first — as a built-in resilience skill, before the world ever tells them something is wrong? In this episode, Alex sits down with three women working at the frontier of that idea — Vera Live, Špela Potočnik, and Katja Jarc — to trace how Neurogenic Tremoring is being reframed for youth: why nervous system regulation has been “kept behind the clinical wall”; how Vera co-developed the book Dynamic Superpower: Inner Strength for Kids & Teens with TRE® creator Dr. David Berceli; and how Špela and Katja piloted a school curriculum in Slovenia where five to seven minutes of guided tremoring, twice a week, began changing how teenage students slept, focused, and felt in their own bodies. Along the way: the science stations that teach kids about the vagus nerve and interoception, why a safe relationship matters more than a perfect protocol, and how the body becomes a friend rather than a problem to fix. Vera Live co-founded Dynamic Superpower with Dr. David Berceli to bring the body’s natural tremoring reflex to kids and teens as a proactive resilience tool, not a clinical intervention. A PE teacher, yoga trainer, and certified TRE® provider, she works to equip the adults in children’s lives to pass on nervous system training safely. Find the work at https://www.reflexomobility.org Špela Potočnik is a Slovenian youth counselor, social pedagogue, and school counselor with nearly 20 years in schools, a certified TRE® provider, and one of two pilot developers behind the Slovenia study. She collaborates with the Intigrum Institute and advocates for burnout prevention in schools. Katja Jarc is a primary school teacher, marriage and family therapist, gestalt counselor, arts therapies specialist, and certified TRE® provider — the second Slovenia pilot developer. Through her practice, Manus Katja Jarc, she has integrated body-oriented and dance-movement work for over 13 years, and co-led the 2024 “TRE with Kids” training in Amsterdam with Vera. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 0:00 Welcome & introductions 6:04 The problem: regulation “kept behind the clinical wall” 6:42 Giving youth agency: “the body is really your best friend” 8:28 How the name “dynamic superpower” came to be 10:07 Špela on test anxiety, panic attacks, and the missing body piece 14:23 Adapting tremoring for kids — toys, play, and safety 15:52 The book as a manual, not just a story 20:20 Science stations: three brains, the vagus nerve, interoception 22:17 A 10-year-old reads it cold — and tremors on their own 25:51 A mother, a doctor, and her daughter’s aha moment 28:53 Lifting the stigma: “this is your power” 33:53 Inside the Slovenia pilot: how it began 35:20 Five to seven minutes, twice a week 43:14 Špela’s surprise: how little tremoring is enough 45:10 The real key — a safe relationship 50:01 What’s next: educational programs & specialized guides 57:14 Closing reflections: “pay attention, become astonished”🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS Connect with the guests — Reflexive Mobility Academy (Vera Live): https://www.reflexomobility.org · Špela Potočnik: https://www.mojesledi.com · Katja Jarc: practice MANUS. The Slovenia pilot and the family’s TRE® videos with Dr. Berceli are linked in the internal notes below. Also mentioned: Dr. David Berceli (creator of TRE®), Linnea Gillen, Dr. Lisa Glenk, the Intigrum Institute, and the International Baccalaureate framework. Continue your journey with Neurogenic Integration 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

    1h 5m
  3. E21 - Neurogenic Tremoring As a Catalyst for Meditation, Qigong & Nondual Practice with Jared Dahmer

    Jun 19

    E21 - Neurogenic Tremoring As a Catalyst for Meditation, Qigong & Nondual Practice with Jared Dahmer

    Most people come to tremoring looking for relief. Jared came looking for depth. By the time he found Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises (TRE®), he'd spent nearly a decade inside ancient yoga, Daoist Qigong, and nondual meditation — and what he wasn't expecting was that a single video, found mid-session on the floor of his own room, would finally let all of it land in his body. In this episode, Alex sits down with Jared to trace that arc: years of self-study in Qigong and Kriya; the night he searched "how to release trauma" and stumbled onto TRE; and the first three months when, in his words, "everything became felt in my body." Along the way they get into pausing inside a session, the integration that happens lying still afterward, lowering your baseline beneath the polyvagal curve, and the paradox at the heart of his path — nondual teachers say let go of the body, while tremoring keeps inviting him further in. Jared is also leading a guest workshop for the Neurogenic Integration community on Thursday, October 22, 2026 — a chance to experience what brings tremoring alive for him, firsthand. Jared Dahmer is a TRE® provider certified through Red Beard's TRE certification pathway, based in Louisiana, USA. Before TRE, he spent six to seven years in deep self-study of Daoist Qigong — in the lineage of Jonathan White, Michael Winn, and Mantak Chia — alongside ancient yoga, Kriya, and nondual meditation. He teaches both TRE and Qigong and offers one-on-one sessions, exploring tremoring not only as a way to release stress and trauma, but as a catalyst for embodiment and awakening. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 0:00   Welcome & introductions 2:00   Starting Qigong in 2020: the search for deeper connection 4:00   An experience at twenty that changed everything 6:00   What is Qigong? "The art of subtle breath" 8:00   Kriya, Kundalini & feeling "turned on by life from within" 10:00  Defining "deep": the body as temple 15:00  Searching "how to release trauma" — and finding TRE 16:00  "Tickled from within": laughter, tears, and arriving at safety 17:00  The morning after: long-term TRE and getting hooked 20:00  The first three months: "everything became felt in my body" 22:00  "I feel myself": dropping the character 25:00  Pausing inside a session: the weightlifting analogy 27:00  Integration: how lying still teaches the body to meditate 29:00  Beneath the polyvagal curve: lowering your baseline 36:00  Teaching others: intimacy, relationships & feeling safe 40:00  "Medicine for the nervous system" 44:00  Where tremoring meets nondual meditation 50:00  Closing reflections: "I just want the world to feel safer" 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS Connect with Jared Dahmer — TRE® provider & Qigong teacher, Louisiana, USA, currently offering one-on-one sessions. Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jaredjoyyy Also mentioned: David Berceli (creator of TRE®), Jonathan White, Michael Winn, Mantak Chia, Mika Devos, Tree Wiseblood, Christina Guillaume, Ramana Maharshi, and the book The Direct Means to Eternal Bliss. (Full links in the internal notes below.) Continue your journey with Neurogenic Integration  🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes  🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/  Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

    55 min

  4. Jun 12

    E20 - Neurogenic Tremoring for Manual Therapists: Bridging Bodywork, Fascia & the Nervous System with Ágnes Katona

    In this episode, Alex sits down with Ágnes Katona — a physiotherapist and manual therapist in Budapest, Hungary — to compare notes on a journey many bodyworkers are quietly making: from working only with tissues, joints, and fascia to recognizing the nervous system as the missing piece. Both Alex and Ágnes were trained in traditions that had no language for what their own bodies started doing on the table. Both rediscovered that "missing link" through their own spontaneous tremoring. And both have spent years working out what it actually looks like to integrate Neurogenic Tremoring into a hands-on treatment session. Their conversation moves through Ágnes's path from physiotherapy into manual therapy and the moment a single client introduced her to TRE; Alex's first spontaneous tremor on a Rolfing table years before he had any language for what it was; two case studies that show what becomes possible when manual therapy and tremoring meet — including a client whose body was so protected it couldn't receive touch at all; and the new science from the 2024 Fascia Research Congress, where Robert Schleip and Stephen Porges took the keynote stage together and showed how fascia and the autonomic nervous system are far more entangled than bodyworkers have been taught. This is also a preview of Neurogenic Tremoring for Manual Therapists & Bodyworkers — a 4-day in-person seminar in Budapest, September 24–27, 2026, taught by Alex Greene and hosted by Ágnes Katona. Romania dates to follow. Ágnes Katona is a physiotherapist, manual therapist, and certified TRE® provider based in Budapest, Hungary. She is the owner of Balanced You Therapy and Learning Hub, where she integrates Neurogenic Tremoring into her clinical work and trains other practitioners to do the same. With a deep curiosity about the connection between the body's tissues and the nervous system, Ágnes has spent years weaving touch and tremoring together in her treatment room. Find her at balancedyou.hu. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 00:00 — Welcome & Introductions: Alex in Boulder, Ágnes in Budapest03:49 — Ágnes's Path: From Physiotherapy to Manual Therapy in Search of the Missing Link 10:45 — A Client Mentions TRE: Ágnes's First Encounter and First Personal Session13:21 — "There's Nothing Wrong With My Body": When Tremoring Stopped Feeling Like a Symptom 21:11 — Alex's Story: A Spontaneous Tremor on a Rolfing Table, Years Before He Had a Name for It27:13 — "Cold Bodies and Warm Bodies": Why Awareness Changes What Bodywork Can Do 32:22 — Ágnes Experiments: Inviting Tremoring Through Touch Alone in Her Treatment Room 43:00 — Case Study: A Postpartum Body That Had Been Told Shaking Was Wrong 51:00 — Case Study: The Kickboxer Whose System Was Too Protected for Manual Work 56:43 — Stress Is Not Someone Else's Job — It's in the Room With You 58:06 — Fascia Meets the Nervous System: Robert Schleip, Stephen Porges & the 2024 Fascia Research Congress1:04:32 — Myofibroblasts, Thoracolumbar Fascia & the Hidden Stress-to-Tension Pipeline 1:16:06 — Inside the September Seminar: Theory, Safety, and Hands-On Practice 1:20:17 — Closing Reflections 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS MENTIONED Connect with Ágnes Katona Physiotherapist, manual therapist & certified TRE® provider, Budapest: balancedyou.hu Instagram: @agnes_katona_balancedyou Facebook: Balanced You Therapy and Learning The September seminar — Neurogenic Tremoring for Manual Therapists & Bodyworkers 📍 Budapest, Hungary — 4-day in-person training📅 September 24–27, 2026👨‍🏫 Taught by Alex Greene, hosted by Ágnes Katona🎓 Part of a 4-stage certification pathway leading to the Certified Neurogenic Tremor Facilitator (CNTF) credential, accredited by Neurogenic Integration📋 Prerequisite: a minimum of 5 TRE® sessions before the seminar (in-person or online — multiple ways to fulfill)💶 Midway Special pricing of 870 EUR available until June 30, 2026 (rises to 950 EUR after). Bundle pricing with the optional International Certification Process also available.🌍 Romania dates to follow — details to comeResearch and people mentioned in this conversation  Dr. David Berceli — Creator of TRE®: https://treglobal.org Dr. Stephen Porges — Polyvagal Theory: https://www.stephenporges.com Dr. Robert Schleip — Fascia research & myofibroblast contractility: https://www.somatics.de Fascia Research Society & Fascia Research Congress: https://fasciaresearchsociety.org Dr. Peter Levine — Somatic Experiencing: https://www.somaticexperiencing.com Dr. Bessel van der Kolk — The Body Keeps the Score: https://www.besselvanderkolk.com Ida Rolf / Rolfing® Structural Integration: https://rolf.org John F. Barnes Myofascial Release: https://myofascialrelease.comContinue your journey with Neurogenic Integration  🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

    1h 23m
  5. E19 - The Body in the Classroom: TRE, YogaCalm & Why Youth Need Somatic Education with Lynea Gillen

    May 29

    E19 - The Body in the Classroom: TRE, YogaCalm & Why Youth Need Somatic Education with Lynea Gillen

    ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS Lynea's Journey — From Yoga to YogaCalm to TRE 00:00 — Welcome & Introductions: Alex in Boulder, Lynea in Portland 03:00 — "It Worked With My Body": Finding Yoga at 15 and a Nervous System That Didn't Respond to Talk 05:00 — When Yoga Opened the Trauma: Why Practitioners Didn't Know What to Do, and the Gap Between Body and Story 06:30 — Building YogaCalm: Combining Yoga and Counseling in Behavior Classrooms — and Writing the Book Teachers Tried to Censor 09:00 — Grassroots Growth: Why Seeding One Teacher at a Time Worked Better Than Mandating It School-Wide 10:00 — Finding David Berceli Online: One Client Who Slept Better Than He'd Slept, and a Workshop in Canada 12:00 — The Evidence Base Is Growing: Presenting TRE at the IVAT Trauma Conference in Honolulu 14:00 — Adapting TRE for Youth: Culture First, Adults First, and the Mistakes That Taught Lynea to Slow Down 18:30 — A Mother-Teen Study in China: 140 Dyads, Eight Weeks of TRE, and Why This Design Matters 21:00 — David Berceli's Question: Can Somatic Practices Reach Youth Where They Actually Live — On Social Media? 24:00 — "Find One Thing in Your Heart": Why Counseling Works Better on the Floor 25:00 — "It Takes a Village, but the Villages Don't Exist": The Nervous System Availability Crisis in Schools 26:30 — Relaxation vs. Distraction: The Boy Who Checked His Heart Rate and Realized Video Games Weren't Calming Him 30:00 — Dopamine Too Fast, Too Often: Why Digital Reward Cycles Hijack What the Body Needs 34:00 — "TRE Is Faster at Bringing People Into the Body Than Any Other Modality I've Ever Used" 38:00 — The Boy Who Never Learned TRE: A Middle Schooler with Panic Attacks, a Wall, and Snapping Fingers 42:00 — Yoga Was Strange in the '80s Too: Why the Path to Normalizing TRE for Youth Looks Familiar 44:00 — Coming Out of Freeze: Why the Arch of Activation Can Scare Everyone in the Room Closing 53:00 — Closing Reflections: Building a Global Community That Shares Ideas Instead of Prescribing Answers 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS MENTIONED Connect with Lynea Gillen Licensed Professional Counselor, Global TRE® Trainer & co-founder of YogaCalm, Portland, Oregon Website: yogacalm.org YogaCalm Resources • Yoga Calm for Children by Lynea Gillen & Jim Gillen — https://www.amazon.com/Yoga-Calm-Children-Educating-Heart/dp/0979928907 • Good People Everywhere by Lynea Gillen, illustrated by Kristina Swarner — https://www.amazon.com/Good-People-Everywhere-Lynea-Gillen/dp/0979928982 • YogaCalm Summer Immersion Retreat — https://www.yogacalm.org/courses/summer-immersion-2026/ Lynea's next TRE Certification Training:  https://www.yogacalm.org/courses/tension-trauma-releasing-exercises-module-1-certification-training-sept-26-27-2026/ Her next Continuing Education, for existing providers: https://www.yogacalm.org/courses/moving-out-of-freeze-with-tre-may-23-2026/ Contact email: info@yogacalm.org In person, Summer, Yoga Calm Training: https://www.yogacalm.org/courses/summer-immersion-2026/ Her book, Good People Everywhere: https://www.amazon.com/Good-People-Everywhere-Lynea-Gillen/dp/0979928982/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1Q0L8LDYWT2N0&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5zQ46nUrYY4NOu1djVIaTjdTwYGxWkqN7RixdKVG3K2fjUvULURTt8v-Dg_OJqEm37GZDxeeFY0A7w55SY3ASgst-W19jwVDlXPt0MFjpLntoJeIMcQ9umsZxzzudmiVis6c8yhfnrjep31AD8jkYjM6z0Fn0s7Zs5MDVPE-x2AMsb4QOvnfNzWycdFRjiANd7_46X0cD3aVHkSyk4jZRIakJu6uTZQaFzCgZBbJvw8.CIBfNvAw2RcHU4J3l2y87V8yl08FTlIjK_DtE58E_c4&dib_tag=se&keywords=good+people+everywhere+book&qid=1775673677&sprefix=good+people+everywh%2Caps%2C233&sr=8-1 Research and People Mentioned • Dr. David Berceli — Creator of TRE®: https://treglobal.org • IVAT — Institute on Violence, Abuse and Trauma (Hawai'i Summit): https://www.ivatcenters.org/ • Dr. Stephen Porges — Polyvagal Theory: https://www.stephenporges.com • Špela Potočnik & Katja — TRE pilot study with youth in Slovenian educational settings (referenced by Alex; study details pending) • China RCT — Randomized controlled trial of TRE with 140 mother-adolescent dyads at a psychiatric hospital (currently recruiting) • Still Face Experiment — Dr. Edward Tronick's foundational research on caregiver emotional availability Continue Your Journey with Neurogenic Integration 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

    56 min
  6. E18 - From Pediatric Oncology to TRE for All: A Nurse's Path Into Stewarding a Global Practice with Tanya Beard, MN, BN

    May 15

    E18 - From Pediatric Oncology to TRE for All: A Nurse's Path Into Stewarding a Global Practice with Tanya Beard, MN, BN

    In this episode, Alex sits down with Tanya Beard, MN, BN — Executive Director at TRE for All (TFA), the global nonprofit that has stewarded TRE certification trainings for nearly fifteen years. Tanya comes to this role through a career most people don't take a straight line through: pediatric oncology and bone marrow transplant nursing at twenty-two, ten years as a child and family psychiatric nurse practitioner, service in the Air National Guard and Air Force Reserves, consulting with schools and families, and — after the pandemic — a job at her local public library. Underneath all of it was one consistent instinct: bring the body into the room. Walking sessions with teenage clients, yoga, mindfulness, breath. Then a single optional after-hours class introduced her to TRE, and the trajectory bent again. Tanya Beard, MN, BN, is the Executive Director at TRE for All (TFA), the global nonprofit overseeing TRE® certification trainings worldwide. Based in Washington State, she brings more than two decades of nursing and clinical experience to the role — beginning as a pediatric oncology nurse at Doernbecher Children's Hospital, later working for roughly a decade as a child and family psychiatric nurse practitioner, and serving with the Air National Guard and Air Force Reserves. She is a certified TRE® provider trained by the late Susan Shifman, and has consulted with schools, families, and treatment centers on body-based approaches to nervous system care. Learn more about TRE for All at treglobal.org. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 00:00 — Welcome & Introductions: Alex with Tanya Beard, New Executive Director at TRE for All 02:30 — From Pediatric Oncology at 22 to Child & Family Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner 05:30 — Bringing the Body Into the Room: Walking Sessions, Yoga & Breath in Clinical Practice 07:30 — "Effervescence": Tanya's First TRE Session at a Yoga Calm Training with Lynea Gillen 10:00 — Down the Rabbit Hole: Discovering Dr. David Berceli and Training with Susan Shifman 14:00 — Kicked by a Horse: What Being a Patient Taught Her About Nursing 22:30 — Population Health, the Air National Guard, and a Pivot Toward Prevention 27:00 — Pandemic Reset: The Library Job and an Unexpected Phone Call 28:30 — A "Body Yes": Saying Yes to the TFA Board During a Time of Transition 33:00 — Three Pillars: Clarity, Conduct & Accessibility at TRE for All 36:00 — The Scope: ~95 Trainers, 65+ Countries, Thousands of Providers Worldwide 42:30 — Three Field Stories: NYC Firefighters, Missionary Sisters in Cameroon, and Mayan Villages in Guatemala 48:00 — TRE's "Flexible Skeleton": A Clear Shape That Travels Across Cultures 55:00 — Where the Research Is Heading: Denmark's MS Trial and New Studies from China 1:03:30 — A Stoplight, a Stranger, and Permission to Shake 1:10:00 — How Tremoring Supports Tanya Inside a Job with a Global Inbox 1:15:00 — Conflict as Part of Loving Well: Stepping In, Not Around 1:21:00 — Closing Reflections Continue your journey with Neurogenic Integration 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

    1h 24m
  7. E17 - From Stillness to Shaking: Meditation, TRE, and the Body's Lead with Gabriel Kaszab

    May 1

    E17 - From Stillness to Shaking: Meditation, TRE, and the Body's Lead with Gabriel Kaszab

    In this episode, Alex sits down with Gabriel to explore one of the most unusual origin stories in the NI community: a meditator who came to neurogenic tremoring not through a workshop or a training, but through his own body's spontaneous intelligence. Their conversation moves through Gabriel's childhood states of effortless meditation in Romania, the schooling that gradually shut those states down, his rediscovery of deep presence through Eckhart Tolle, and the seven years he spent tremoring alone without knowing anyone else did this too. Then — what changed when he finally learned TRE existed, why he dove straight into the practitioner training, and how he now integrates tremoring with Reiki, salsa warmups, singing bowls, and light language in his sessions with clients. This is a conversation about neurogenic tremoring as more than release — as playfulness, as meditation, as a continuum that lives not just on the mat, but walking, swimming, driving, and waiting in line at the supermarket. Gabriel Kaszab is a TRE® practitioner and Reiki practitioner based in Brisbane, Australia. He came to neurogenic tremoring spontaneously through a meditation practice he developed in his thirties, and practiced privately for seven years before discovering TRE® and training as a provider. He facilitates individual and group sessions in Brisbane, integrating TRE® with Reiki, intuitive bodywork, and somatic movement. Find him at gabrielkaszab.com. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 00:00 — Welcome & Introductions: Alex in Boulder, Gabriel in Brisbane  02:00 — Childhood in Romania: Spontaneous Meditation States That "Just Happened"  05:00 — Schooling and the Gradual Closing Down (by age 9 or 10)  06:00 — The Search Begins in His Twenties: Salsa, Photography & the Hunger for Something More  08:00 — Eckhart Tolle and the Moment of Recognition: "He Talks That Language"  10:00 — The Middle-of-the-Night Moment: First Spontaneous Tremoring  12:00 — Seven Years of Private Practice: Daily Tremoring Without a Name for It  14:00 — Coffee with Emmeline: "That Sounds Like TRE"  17:00 — What Knowing TRE Changed — and What Stayed the Same  20:00 — Diving Into the Practitioner Training: Not to Facilitate, Just to Embody  22:00 — The Varieties of Autogenic Movement: Shaking, Myofascial Flow, Pandiculation, Pulse & Mudras  29:00 — What Pandiculation Actually Is (and Why It Feels Alchemical)  32:00 — TRE as the Playfulness of Meditation  36:00 — Tremoring as a Continuum: Walking, Driving, Swimming, the Bus Stop  39:00 — Family and the Ones Who Don't Quite Get It (Yet)  41:00 — His Parents' Stories: A Mother Who Thought She Had Parkinson's, a Father Whose Vertigo Shakes Away  44:00 — Becoming a Practitioner: "I Had Nothing to Offer — And That Was the Point"  46:00 — How Intuition Opened: Sensing What's Happening in a Client's Body  49:00 — Salsa as Warmup: What Dancers Know That TRE Can Use  52:00 — Singing Bowls, Group Sessions & Entering Tremoring from a Place of Presence  54:00 — Keith Motz, Shaking Medicine & the Global Community of Shakers  57:00 — Reiki and Tremoring: Why They Work Together So Well  01:04:00 — Light Language, Intuitive Touch & Meeting People Where They Are  01:08:00 — Closing Reflection: It Doesn't Have to Be Serious. This Is Fun. 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS MENTIONED Gabriel Kaszab — TRE® & Reiki practitioner, Brisbane: gabrielkaszab.com Emmeline — TRE provider, Australia (Gabriel's first introduction to TRE) Dr. David Berceli — Creator of TRE®: https://treglobal.org Richmond Heath — TRE provider and trainer, Australia: https://tre4you.com.au Dr. Keith Motz — Shaking Medicine & therapeutic tremoring: [link] Eckhart Tolle — The Power of Now & Stillness Speaks: https://www.eckharttolle.com Continuum Movement — Body-based somatic practice: https://continuummovement.com Ratu Bagus — Shaking meditation retreat, Bali: https://ratubagus.com Seitai Katsugen Undo — Japanese form of autogenic movement 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes  🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/  Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

    1h 13m
  8. E16 - Breathwork & TRE: Where the Breath Meets the Tremor — with Mike Maher

    Apr 17

    E16 - Breathwork & TRE: Where the Breath Meets the Tremor — with Mike Maher

    What does it feel like when your body starts moving before your mind has any idea why? For Mike Maher, the answer came in the basement of a hotel in Poland — lights off, a room full of strangers, thirty rhythmic breaths — and then tears, trembling, and a release he couldn't explain. That single session with Wim Hof lit a fire that eventually became the Take a Deep Breath YouTube channel, one of the largest breathwork communities on the planet, and a decade-long exploration into what breath can actually do for the human nervous system. In this episode, Alex sits down with Mike for a wide-ranging conversation about breathwork as a complete system — not a single technique, but a full toolkit for nervous system regulation. Together they trace Mike's journey from stressed corporate professional to one of the field's most trusted educators, exploring his RESET framework, what he learned from training breath holds underwater with the world record holder, the 90-day CO2 documentary he's launching, and why the simplest ancestral practices — bare feet on soil, morning light, quiet air — might carry more physiological weight than any sophisticated technique. And along the way, they wander into the territory closest to home for the NI community: the intersection of breathwork and TRE (Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises) — and what happens when the body starts tremoring during a breath session and you finally stop fighting it. If you've ever wondered how breathwork and TRE relate, or felt both practices pulling toward the same place in the body, this conversation is for you. Mike Maher is a breathwork coach, educator, and content creator who spent 12 years in the corporate world before a sequence of transformational experiences — a Wim Hof retreat, Tony Robbins events, and walking the Camino de Santiago — set him on a different path. Drawing on a background in video production and storytelling, he built the Take A Deep Breath YouTube channel into one of the largest breathwork platforms in the world, with 300,000+ subscribers and 42 million views. His podcast has featured deep conversations with James Nestor, Patrick McKeown, Dr. Belisa Vranich, and many others at the frontier of breathing, trauma, and performance. He works with clients one-on-one, leads group programs, and teaches a full-spectrum approach that blends functional technique with nervous system science and genuine embodied practice. Mike is also currently a student in the Neurogenic Integration TRE Certification program, deepening his understanding of how neurogenic tremoring and breathwork can work together as complementary pathways to nervous system regulation. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 00:00 — Welcome & Introductions 03:30 — Mike's Origin Story: Steve Jobs, Joe Rogan & the Road to Wim Hof 06:00 — The Poland Retreat: Tears, Trembling & an Unexplained Release 08:00 — When Wim Hof Was Making the Anxiety Worse 11:00 — The Podcast as Education: James Nestor, Patrick McKeown & Learning from the Best 13:00 — The RESET Framework: A Full Map of Breathwork in Five Categories 19:00 — Mike's Personal Learning Curve: From Oxygen Advantage to Rebirthing in a Hot Tub 22:00 — A Full Rebirthing Experience in Glastonbury 26:00 — Breath Holds, Willpower & Training with the World Record Holder 28:00 — The 90-Day CO2 Therapy Documentary: What Mike Is Testing & Why 33:00 — Ancestral Living: Earthing, Light Exposure & Things Too Simple to Ignore 40:00 — Discovering Neurogenic Tremoring 44:00 — Where Breathwork and TRE 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS MENTIONED Mike Maher / Take A Deep Breath — YouTube, podcast & coaching: https://www.youtube.com/@TAKEADEEPBREATH http://www.takeadeepbreath.co.uk/  Wim Hof Method — Breathwork & cold exposure system: https://www.wimhofmethod.com James Nestor — Author of Breath: The New Science of a Lost Art: https://www.mrjamesnestor.com Patrick McKeown / Oxygen Advantage — Functional breathing & CO2 tolerance training: https://oxygenadvantage.com Dr. Belisa Vranich / Breathing for Warriors — Biomechanical breathwork: https://thebreathingclass.com Anders Olson / Relaxator — CO2 therapy & nasal breathing research: https://www.relaxator.com Tom Sietas — World record breath holder; freediving & breath hold training Dr. David Berceli — Creator of TRE®: https://treglobal.org Leonard Orr — Pioneer of Rebirthing breathwork Dr. Jack Kruse — Neurosurgeon; light biology & circadian health: https://jackkruse.com The Earthing Movie — Documentary on grounding & inflammation (7M+ views on YouTube) Civilized to Death — Book by Christopher Ryan Ring of Fire — 1970s documentary featuring Qi master Kevin Chang 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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