The Sincerely Show

Katherine Dudtschak

Some conversations change you. This is one of those shows. Each week, Katherine Dudtschak sits with someone who has lived a life worth examining: leaders who rebuilt everything, people who told the truth when silence would have been easier, humans who found their way home to themselves. Katherine spent thirty-seven years in financial services and in 2019 came out publicly as one of Canada's most senior banking executives. She knows what honesty costs. That knowing makes her a remarkable witness. Unhurried. Unscripted. True.

  1. 1d ago

    John Abbott: The Perfection in the Perceived Imperfection

    Connect with Katherine Dudtschak Website: Sincerely Inc. LinkedIn: Katherine Dudtschak Instagram: @kdudtschak Connect with John Abbott Website: Centered LinkedIn: John Abbott John Abbott: The Perfection in the Perceived Imperfection Ask John Abbott to draw his company and he draws a sun. At the centre is Centered, a heart-centred marketing and sales agency that amplifies speakers and facilitators around the world. Around it turn the planets, each division running on its own, all of them in orbit around warmth rather than command. This conversation travels the whole arc: how John built by striving, lost everything, and found freedom in the release, and why he now believes that generosity, not pressure, is the truest way to serve. John leads Centered, working with speakers and facilitators from Tony Robbins to Michael Beckwith, helping them reach far more of the people their work was born to serve. Through the Giving Model he discovered in 2013, he invites people into a conversation rather than a transaction. He was raised largely alone on a rural South African farm during apartheid, a boy who stepped between bullies and smaller kids, who later published suppressed history on CD-ROM as Nelson Mandela walked free, and who built a multi-company empire before losing it all and finding something unexpected on the other side. In 2016, he shut everything down, committed to meditate daily until there was nothing left in him that needed to drive anything forward, and waited for the cinders to go cold so the phoenix could rise. In this conversation John and Katherine move through the planetary image at the heart of his company, the Giving Model and what it opened, how he sees money and abundance and the practice of getting out of the way, the 2016 reset, and his closing wish: that people get to live through the eyes of a single statement. Key Moments - The Giving Model arrives: twelve applications come back overnight, and John reads them one by one, each one opening something in him he had not expected. - Money reframed: John describes the practice of stepping into the feeling of abundance first, then giving from that place, and the faith that follows when you get out of the way. - Katherine gathers John's essence back to him: adventurous, defiantly curious, loving, humble, courageous, vulnerable. Quotes to Remember "Everything is perfect. Our job is to see the perfection in the perceived imperfection." (01:24.43) "The more vulnerable I am, the more I give others permission to be vulnerable." (44:28) Reflection for Listeners What I am still sitting with, days after this conversation, is the image of John at that airport. Bag in hand, nothing left, and a wave of freedom moving through his whole body. He had spent years building toward what he thought freedom looked like, and it arrived the moment he let all of it go. I know that place. I know the particular quality of silence on the other side of surrender. What John gave me in that room was a reminder that the release is not the failure. Sometimes it is the very thing we have been working toward all along, and we only recognize it when we stop fighting it. Sincerely, Katherine. About the Host Katherine Dudtschak is the founder of Sincerely, host of The Sincerely Show, and author of [title if applicable]. She writes and speaks about leadership, service, and the interior life. Disclaimer This conversation is for reflection and perspective only and should not be relied on as therapy or professional advice. Please seek qualified support where needed before making any decisions based on the information you learn through this conversation. This content is also subject to our full Terms and Conditions, which you can review on our website at sincerelyinc.com.

  2. Oct 22

    Judy Wicks: Building the Beloved Community, One Fort at a Time

    Connect with Katherine Dudtschak Website: Sincerely Inc. LinkedIn: Katherine Dudtschak Instagram: @kdudtschak Connect with Judy Wicks Website: Judy Wicks LinkedIn: Judy Wicks Instagram: @judywicks Book: Good Morning Beautiful Business Judy Wicks: Building the Beloved Community, One Fort at a Time On a two-acre homestead in Chestnut Hill, Philadelphia, Judy Wicks and her daughter Grace are turning a lawn into a meadow. She is nearly eighty. She has not stopped. Judy spent twenty-six years building the White Dog Cafe from a muffin and coffee shop into a two-hundred-seat, farm-to-table pioneer. She went on to found Fair Food, the Business Alliance for Local Living Economies, and All Together Now Pennsylvania, and to write Good Morning Beautiful Business. Through all of it, she says, she was doing one thing: building the beloved community. This conversation walks backward through the life that built her. A tomboy childhood in Ingomar, Pennsylvania, who asked every birthday for tar paper and a can of nails and built a new fort every year from age nine to high school graduation. A near-year among the Yupik in Chefornak, Alaska, that showed her what an economy of sharing actually looks like. A marriage she left when she could no longer find herself inside it, and a stranger who pointed her toward the restaurant business by accident. The moment when she gave her proprietary farm sources to her competitors and went from me to we. And the homestead she and Grace are building together, which her daughter calls her last fort. This episode is for anyone who has felt they don't fit where they were placed, and needs proof that following that refusal can become a whole life of contribution and joy. Key Moments - Judy names her life's through line at the very opening: building the beloved community, whether she is running a restaurant or throwing a Black-Eyed Susan party on her rewilded homestead. - The moment at the White Dog when Judy realised she needed to hand her proprietary farm sources to her competitors because getting one restaurant right was a drop in the bucket. - What nearly a year among the Yupik in Chefornak taught her: a culture totally about sharing and giving, where you hand over what you are wearing if someone admires it. Quotes to Remember "My life has been about building the beloved community. Whatever I'm doing, whether it's running my restaurant or having parties, what I'm really doing is building the beloved community." "I was in charge of creating the world in which I lived. And I guess I've always done that." Reflection for Listeners What I keep sitting with, after this conversation with Judy, is the image of a ten-year-old girl in the woods with her father's saw, cutting sassafras logs to equal lengths, lashing them between four trees, building a roof with a trapdoor. Nobody encouraged her. Nobody photographed it. She just kept building, every single year, because the building was what she was. I think about how many of us quietly stopped building, not because we were told to stop but because nobody made a fuss, and we started to believe the fuss was the point. Judy never believed that. The through line of her whole life is a person who cannot stay where she doesn't fit, who trusts that refusal, and who turns every departure into something worth gathering around. I found that extraordinarily steadying. I hope you do too. About the Host Katherine Dudtschak is the founder of Sincerely, host of The Sincerely Show, and author of Sincerely Katherine. She writes and speaks about leadership, service, and the interior life. Disclaimer This conversation is for reflection and perspective only and should not be relied on as therapy or professional advice. Please seek qualified support where needed before making any decisions based on the information you learn through this conversation. This content is also subject to our full Terms and Conditions, which you can review on our website at sincerelyinc.com.

  3. Oct 15

    Micky Hoogendijk: Vulnerability Is the Strength, and the Art of Creating Space to Move Forward

    Connect with Katherine Dudtschak Website: Sincerely Inc. LinkedIn: Katherine Dudtschak Instagram: @kdudtschak Connect with Micky Hoogendijk Website: Micky Hoogendijk  LinkedIn: Micky Hoogendijk Instagram: @mickyhoogendijk Book: The Art of Letting Go Micky Hoogendijk: Vulnerability Is the Strength, and the Art of Creating Space to Move Forward Micky Hoogendijk is a self-taught artist working across photography, sculpture, painting, and stone carving, and the author of a memoir on the art of letting go. She creates bronze figures of people holding onto one another, coaxes stillness from her photographic subjects until they stop performing and simply arrive, and lives from what she calls her child energy. A photograph of seven-year-old Mirjam lives on her phone. That child, she says, is the one she works for. In this conversation, Micky and Katherine walk backward through a life lived across twenty-four moves, many countries, and as many forms of expression. They talk about The Artist's Way and the morning pages that opened Micky's creative door; about Eric Morris, the acting teacher who asked her to say "I'm a little girl, will you please be my friend?" in front of twenty-five working actors, and what she understood in the tears that followed. They talk about the army of bronze figures she began during the first week of COVID, "the ones," people holding onto each other. And they talk about her memoir and what she discovered writing it: that letting go means creating space to keep moving forward. This conversation is for anyone who was once laughed at for being wholly themselves, and who is finding their way back to that child. Key Moments - The acting class with Eric Morris in Los Angeles, where she was asked to say "I'm a little girl, will you please be my friend?" in front of twenty-five working actors, and stood there with tears coming down, learning for the first time that vulnerability is more interesting than the tough girl. - The first week of COVID, alone in the studio, and the decision to get to work: within weeks, an army of "the ones," bronze figures of people holding onto each other, built from the subconscious without Micky fully knowing why until she wrote it down. Quotes to Remember "I actually think and believe that vulnerability is the strength and it's the most beautiful part of a human being." "As long as you move yourself into certain directions and allow yourself to keep moving and to keep living and to keep doing the things you do and creating and being curious, then things just appear and happen and continue." Reflection for Listeners What I keep sitting with from my time with Micky is the image of that seven-year-old Mirjam on her phone screen, the first thing she sees when she opens it. Micky told me that is the one she works for, and that Mirjam takes care of her because she makes her happy. I thought about my own inner child, the one who put her hand up in grade one and got laughed at by the whole room, and I thought about how long it takes some of us to work our way back to her, to love her rather than outrun her. Micky has done that, through every form her hands have found. That feels like the real art of letting go. About the Host Katherine Dudtschak is the founder of Sincerely, host of The Sincerely Show, and author of Sincerely, Katherine. She writes and speaks about leadership, service, and the interior life. Disclaimer This conversation is for reflection and perspective only and should not be relied on as therapy or professional advice. Please seek qualified support where needed before making any decisions based on the information you learn through this conversation. This content is also subject to our full Terms and Conditions, which you can review on our website at sincerelyinc.com.

  4. Oct 8

    Patricia Gagic: In Gray Is Where All Potential Waits

    Connect with Katherine DudtschakWebsite: Sincerely Inc.LinkedIn: Katherine DudtschakInstagram: @kdudtschak Connect with Patricia GagicWebsite: Patricia Karen GagicLinkedIn: Patricia GagicBook: Karmic Alibi: Gaining EXPEDIENT Wisdom by Leaving your Excuses Behind Patricia Gagic: In Gray Is Where All Potential Waits Patricia Gagic is an internationally recognised contemporary artist, author, drummer, and humanitarian who believes everyone arrives with something inside them, waiting to be revealed. She won the Gold Medal at the SNBA at the Carrousel du Louvre, and her Black Madonnas entered the Vatican Museum Library. Since 2006, she has built schools, a library, and an Innovation House in Cambodia. This conversation begins with the friendship itself: Katherine sharing how Patricia, after hearing a talk at the Canadian Museum for Human Rights in 2019, nominated a stranger for women's awards because she saw a supernova and refused to wait another year to say so. From there it moves through Patricia's remarkable life: consuming encyclopedias A to Z as a child, becoming the youngest female bank manager in Saskatchewan, and following a synchronicity in France in 1999 when she saw the name Dragic on a horse painting and knew she had to meet the artist. Twenty-six years of study followed. At the centre is a teaching about gray. Katherine once had a bias toward colour and stood before Patricia's dark canvases, feeling something she could not name. She asked what happens when you mesh all the colours of the universe together. Patricia said: gray. In gray is where all potentiality exists. Darkness holds all potential waiting to be revealed. Key Moments Katherine describes Patricia seeing a supernova in a stranger and refusing to wait to name it because, as Patricia explains, we live in the now.A sunflower apartment in France, a horse painting, the name Dragic, and the certainty that she had to meet him, leading to twenty-six years of study.The gray teaching: when every colour in the universe is meshed together, what remains is gray, and light lives inside darkness.Cambodia since 2006: the library in Angkor Wat, the school in Bueng-Miala, the Innovation House, and the understanding that giving without expectation is itself a form of receiving.Quotes to Remember "Gray is the underpainting beneath every canvas, holding all the color, light, and potentiality waiting to be revealed. People see darkness in it, but gray is actually where everything begins." "The most greatest gift in this world we can give ourselves is the feeling of love one feels when they make a difference in the life of somebody else." Reflection for Listeners Patricia told me every canvas begins filled with colour, the full spectrum, and as the truth of the painting emerges, the palette shifts to gray, white, or black. The colour is underneath, holding everything. I think about how many people look dark from the outside while carrying more colour inside than they have been given room to show. This conversation reminded me to ask the question before I assume I know what I am looking at. About the Host Katherine Dudtschak is the founder of Sincerely, host of The Sincerely Show, and author of Sincerely, Katherine. She writes and speaks about leadership, service, and the interior life. Disclaimer This conversation is for reflection and perspective only and should not be relied on as therapy or professional advice. Please seek qualified support where needed before making decisions based on this conversation. This content is subject to our full Terms and Conditions at sincerelyinc.com.

  5. Oct 1

    Carlos Delgado and Craig Alexander: The Simplicity of Chaos, and Carrying Beauty Home

    Connect with Katherine Dudtschak Website: Sincerely Inc. LinkedIn: Katherine Dudtschak Instagram: @kdudtschak Connect with Carlos Delgado Website: Carlos Delgado LinkedIn: Carlos Delgado Instagram: Carlos Delgado Connect with Craig Alexander Website: Sybil Frank Gallery LinkedIn: Craig Alexander Instagram: Sybil Frank Gallery Carlos Delgado and Craig Alexander: The Simplicity of Chaos, and Carrying Beauty Home Carlos Delgado grew up in the mountains of Colombia where finding paper to draw on was near impossible. Today he mentors nine young artists in his Colombian studio, provides their materials and space, sells their work internationally, and runs Arte Espiral, an organisation that delivered ninety art workshops to indigenous children in mountain communities last year. Craig Alexander is the founder and owner of Sybil Frank Gallery in Wellington, Prince Edward County, named for his two grandmothers, a place he describes as a happy maker, open and free to anyone who walks through the door. This conversation began inside a live painting performance at the gallery, Carlos working with a knife more than a brush while Craig and Katherine spoke. It walks backward through how Craig found Carlos online and sold his first painting within a week; through Carlos's fifteen years in Canada riding the Toronto subway and reading the tired faces of rush-hour commuters; and through the day a young artist named Eleazar arrived at Carlos's studio with an oil painting on cheap paper because he could not afford canvas. His style, the simplicity of chaos, where apocalyptic strokes resolve into beauty and love, runs through everything. This episode is for anyone who has wondered whether the thing that once saved them can become the thing they give away. Key Moments - The afternoon Eleazar appeared at Carlos's studio door: six weeks of work, a hundred dollars earned, and an oil painting on cheap paper because he could not afford canvas, which moved Carlos to offer him space, materials, and a place beside him to work. - Craig describing the gallery named for his grandmothers: the rooms, the art he pairs across different artists so everything works as one, and his conviction that it is a happy maker rather than a moneymaker. - Carlos's wish for the world: balance and dignity, with art doing its part. Quotes to Remember "I didn't have money to buy canvas. And I was loyal so touched. I told my wife, look, he's so talented, but he doesn't have at least a canvas to do a painting." Carlos Delgado "It's not a moneymaker. It's it's It's a happy maker." Craig Alexander Reflection for Listeners There is a moment from this conversation that I have been sitting with: I said to Carlos that Canada may have just shown him who he always was. He sat with that, and then he said, you saw yourself. That exchange stays with me because I think it describes what community, real community, actually does. It holds up a mirror. And if we are lucky, what we see reflected back is generous enough to change what we give away. I am honoured to have been in that room. About the Host Katherine Dudtschak is the founder of Sincerely, host of The Sincerely Show, and author of Sincerely Katherine. She writes and speaks about leadership, service, and the interior life. Disclaimer This conversation is for reflection and perspective only and should not be relied on as therapy or professional advice. Please seek qualified support where needed before making any decisions based on the information you learn through this conversation. This content is also subject to our full Terms and Conditions, which you can review on our website at sincerelyinc.com.

  6. Sep 23

    Melissa Bernstein: Turning the Chaos Within Into Light, One Life at a Time

    Connect with Katherine Dudtschak Website: Sincerely Inc. LinkedIn: Katherine Dudtschak Instagram: @kdudtschak Connect with Melissa Bernstein Website: Melissa Bernstein LinkedIn: Melissa Bernstein Book: Lifelines Melissa Bernstein: Turning the Chaos Within Into Light, One Life at a Time There is a woman who has designed nearly ten thousand toys, built a preschool toy brand in the United States, and founded Lifelines to put sensory wellbeing tools into more hands. She coaches despondent strangers for free because she has learned, from the Talmud and experience, that to save one life is to save the world entire. That is Melissa Bernstein. Melissa describes growing up with a profound crisis of meaning and shaping herself around what she calls the three P's: perfectionism, pleasing, and performance. We trace the arc through her early twenties, when she and Doug left conventional careers, founded a toy company with their pooled savings, and discovered she could turn off the dark faucet and turn on the light. That led to her memoir, Lifelines, and the framework she calls the pie of meaning: building a life from many slices so no loss empties you. Katherine and Melissa find the same arc in each other and name it, two people meeting in the same truth. This conversation is for anyone who has wondered whether the quality that made them feel wrong might be the source of their best work. There are no promises of arrival, only an invitation to keep cultivating seeds and trust they will germinate in lives we may never see. Key Moments The three P's: how perfectionism leads to breakdown, pleasing to martyrdom, and performance to self-abandonment.Turning off the dark faucet: the moment Melissa understood she had a choice about what to create, and what it felt like to breathe.The pie of meaning, and why a life built on a single source of meaning cannot hold when that source changes.The childhood verse on seeds, written at eight and read aloud here: "keep on cultivating seeds, give them water, pull the weeds, then repeat it all again for we can't be certain when they will germinate and grow touching lives we'll never know."Quotes to Remember "I basically saw that I have a choice. I can choose to either create more darkness out of darkness... But now I actually metaphorically and figuratively turned off the dark faucet and I said, you know what? I'm just going to channel this very same unsettledness... into light." "when you save one life, you save the world entire... I have to do it one person at a time. And that that is more than enough." Reflection for Listeners What I keep sitting with is that verse Melissa wrote at eight about seeds. She didn't know she was writing her own instructions. The chaos she was trying to outrun would one day teach her to cultivate something in another person and let it go without needing to see where it lands. I've been thinking about those who planted seeds in me without knowing it, and what it means to give without needing to know the germination date. That is the gift Melissa handed me, and I am so glad she is in the world. About Host Katherine Dudtschak is the founder of Sincerely, host of The Sincerely Show, and author of Sincerely, Katherine. She writes and speaks about leadership, service, and inner life. Disclaimer This conversation is for reflection and perspective only and should not be relied on as therapy or professional advice. Please seek qualified support before making decisions based on this conversation. This content is also subject to our full Terms and Conditions, which you can review on our website at sincerelyinc.com.

  7. Sep 17

    Eric Farewell: Becoming a Billionaire in Time, and Building a Life Around Love

    Connect with Katherine Dudtschak Website: Sincerely Inc. LinkedIn: Katherine Dudtschak Instagram: @kdudtschak Connect with Eric Farewell Website: Eric Farewell LinkedIn: Eric Farewell Facebook: Eric Farewell Eric Farewell: Becoming a Billionaire in Time, and Building a Life Around Love A friend asked Eric Farewell two years ago if he could coach him. In what, Eric said. And the friend answered: you own four companies and you don't work. You have more time than anyone else I know. Eric replied without reaching for it. He calls himself a billionaire in time: a man who, having never had a childhood, is living one now, driving his kids four minutes to school, playing volleyball on the weekends, calling someone he loves every single time he gets in the car. He is a coach and mentor to founders, the builder of a community called Royals for men and women stepping into their highest selves, and a husband of seventeen years who will tell you plainly that presence is the only currency that has ever mattered to him. This conversation walks backward through the life that produced him. The seven-year-old who discovered that hard work made people call him remarkable, and who spent the next twenty-five years chasing that feeling through businesses, broken bones, and a marriage that very nearly ended. The convergence that came at thirty-two, when his body finally stopped him. And the years of somatic work, therapy, community, and radical honesty that brought him to the man sitting here now: loving, present, and genuinely grateful for all of it. In this conversation Eric talks about why grief must be witnessed in community, not carried alone. He talks about the one emotion men are given permission to feel, and the slow, beautiful work of learning to feel the rest. He shares what he looks for in a king or a queen, which has everything to do with where their boundaries are. And he talks about fear as a highway sign: the direction you are most afraid of is very likely the direction you are meant to go. Key Moments - Royals, and what actually distinguishes a king or queen: where their boundaries are, and what they have finally stopped performing in order to receive love. - The client who turned to him with tears in her eyes and said she thought she was last in her feminine when she was eight years old, and the moment Katherine names what Eric was doing: seeing through the layers to the soul, which Course in Miracles calls true empathy. Quotes to Remember "I'm a billionaire in time. I built my life. Like I didn't have a childhood. So I am living my childhood now." "My purpose on this planet is to help myself and others overcome fears to become present with who we truly are. All that fear is, is the antithesis of love." Reflection for Listeners What stayed with me after this conversation is the image of the seven-year-old who learned to be remarkable, and the forty-year-old who no longer needs to be. Eric said what he wants on his tombstone is the word "loved." Not what he built, sold, or survived. Just that he loved. Eric gave me one of the clearest answers I have ever received to the question of what it means to live sincerely human. A daily choosing, again and again, to feel the thing, say the thing, and let people in. About the Host Katherine Dudtschak is the founder of Sincerely, host of The Sincerely Show, and author of Sincerely, Katherine. She writes and speaks about leadership, service, and the interior life. Disclaimer This conversation is for reflection and perspective only and should not be relied on as therapy or professional advice. Please seek qualified support where needed before making any decisions based on the information you learn through this conversation. This content is also subject to our full Terms and Conditions, which you can review on our website at sincerelyinc.com.

  8. Sep 10

    Jennifer Hill: The Spark of Light in Every Human We Meet

    Jennifer Hill has spent her life learning to see the spark of light in every person she meets, and handing it back to them when they have forgotten it. She is the founder of the Jen Hill Tribe, a global community of entrepreneurs, thought leaders, and the founder of OptiMatch, an intelligent-matching platform built to connect people according to their motivational makeup, values, and numerological alignment. She shares 180 tools for self-regulation and inner peace, with anyone who wants them. This conversation walks backward through the chapters: a childhood spent contorting herself to earn love, an awakening at a personal development class outside LAX, and a decade of inner work that rewired the way she lived. It walks through the autism diagnosis that helped her understand her own brain, the founding of OptiMatch, and the vision two Decembers ago of a magical mirror in which she saw not her own reflection but everyone she had ever met reflected back to her. From that mirror came her purpose: to look for and listen for the spark of light in every human and reflect it back when they have forgotten. This episode is for anyone who has tried to earn love by becoming someone else, and is ready to find and reflect back, the spark of light that was always theirs. Key Moments The vision of the magical mirror: Jennifer recounts the Thursday morning session in Lisbon, two Decembers ago, where she was shown that her only purpose is to look for and listen for the spark of light in every human she meets and reflect it back to them when they have forgotten. The LAMP typology and the plus-two approach: Jennifer explains how understanding motivational type reveals why people cannot hear each other, and how rating your own energy after every interaction from plus two to minus two becomes a map of who belongs in your life. Jennifer describes what it means, in practice, to have transcended the fear of death, and shares the nightly spiritual accounting she and her husband observe: three questions asked before sleep, in good faith, every evening. A wish for humanity: Jennifer reads the words she wrote the day before her birthday, after postponing a flight to Israel as conflict broke out, a Kabbalistic teaching that any evil we witness in the world is a reflection of what lies unhealed in our hearts, and a wish that we each turn inward and make peace in the only place we truly have authority. Quotes to Remember "Your only purpose is to look for and listen for the spark of light in every human you meet and reflect it back to them when they've forgotten." "Until we can first repair that relationship with self, we're never going to be able to have deep intimacy with others." Reflection for Listeners What moved me most is the moment Jennifer said nobody had ever asked her about fear before. She has one of the most generous minds I have encountered in this room, and I watched her go genuinely still when I asked the question, and then answer it with a humility that undid me. She has transcended the fear of death, she told us, and she described it without drama. I am sitting with the question she asks herself every night: did I cause pain to anyone today, and how could I have lived the day better? That question, asked honestly and in good faith each evening, is its own kind of spiritual accounting. I am going to try it. About the Host Katherine Dudtschak is the founder of Sincerely, host of The Sincerely Show, and author of Sincerely, Katherine. She writes and speaks about leadership, service, and the interior life. Disclaimer This conversation is for reflection and perspective only and should not be relied on as therapy or professional advice. Please seek qualified support where needed before making any decisions based on the information you learn through this conversation. This content is also subject to our full Terms and Conditions, which you can review on our website at sincerelyinc.com.

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Some conversations change you. This is one of those shows. Each week, Katherine Dudtschak sits with someone who has lived a life worth examining: leaders who rebuilt everything, people who told the truth when silence would have been easier, humans who found their way home to themselves. Katherine spent thirty-seven years in financial services and in 2019 came out publicly as one of Canada's most senior banking executives. She knows what honesty costs. That knowing makes her a remarkable witness. Unhurried. Unscripted. True.

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