Mindful Leader

Dennis Shaw

Dennis Shaw is a musician, marathoner (Boston!), retired military officer, math modeler, muse, and United Methodist Pastor. A keen observer of the human condition, he has degrees in music, quantitative methods (don’t ask!), theology and leadership. He will discuss with other leaders how to become engaged and present in our current leadership opportunities. Critical to leadership is strong self-awareness. Becoming authentic, empathetic, and aware will form the framework of all discussions. You can access and follow this podcast on Apple, Podbean, Spotify and Amazon Music.

  1. 1d ago

    Christian Nationalism: Setting the Stage, Episode 1 of 6 Episodes

    In this episode of the Mindful Leader podcast, Dennis outlines a six-part series exploring Christian nationalism through historical, theological, and practical lenses. He defines Christian nationalism, offers real-world examples, and previews upcoming episodes. Episode one (this episode) sets the stage and introduces the topic and framework. Episode two presents the strongest defense of Christian nationalism Shaw can offer, using a “steel man” approach. Using a "steel man" is an attempt to look at an issue in the fairest, clearest fashion.   Episode three develops a scriptural lens around the question of the Bonhoeffer Question:  "Who  is Jesus Christ for us today?" Episode four considers Bonhoeffer and Germany. Shaw sees possible lessons, but said the guardrails in the 21st Century United States are high and that conditions in Germany from 1933 to 1945 will not automatically recur in the United States. Episode five considers pluralism in a Christian-nationalist nation and will serve in part as a response to episode two, drawing on episodes three and four. Episode six brings the series together around bearing witness to God’s love without privilege or imposition. The release schedule will be as they are ready but not less than weekly.   Shaw also briefly discusses his book, The Slow Work of Trust, and invites listeners to follow the series, provide feedback, and learn more through show notes and his website. Dennis email is HERE.  (And for listeners whose Podcast app blocks email addrsses:  dennis at mantuan dot org, yes?) Slow Work of Trust Website is HERE.   Reformation Day Message from the White House, October 31, 2026 is HERE. (Not a direct indication that Christian Nationalist Barbarians are at the gate, but a cautionary tale in paying closer attention to history and writing.  The National Review article Dennis mentions is behind a paywall.) Infographic of the series is HERE. Let me know if it helps any.  AI produced.   This was a hard episode to get produced.  This is version number 3.

  2. 04/14/2025

    "This is Water" and our Default Settings

    In this episode of Mindful Leader, host Dennis Shaw explores the human tendency towards self-centeredness through the lens of David Foster Wallace's famous "This is Water" commencement speech. Drawing on Wallace's metaphor of two fish unaware they're swimming in water, Dennis discusses our default human setting: seeing ourselves as the absolute center of the universe. The podcast challenges listeners to become aware of this innate perspective and intentionally choose to see beyond our own immediate experience. Dennis weaves together insights from theologians like Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Richard Rohr to illustrate how personal transformation requires "unlearning" our ego-driven perspectives. Mirroring Wallace, Dennis emphasizes that we have a daily choice: remain trapped in our self-centered default mode or actively cultivate empathy, connection, and a broader understanding of our interconnectedness. Using examples ranging from marathon training to global perspectives, Dennis argues that mindfulness is about recognizing we are active participants in life, not just passive recipients replying on our default, self-absorbed, hard-wired default settings.   The podcast concludes with a practical challenge: as you go about your daily routine, ask yourself what choices you're making in mundane moments. Are you challenging your default settings? Are you choosing to be "light" and "salt" in the world? The message is hopeful, suggesting that by becoming aware of our natural self-centeredness, we can choose to see the "vast ocean of possibilities" that exists beyond our immediate perception. Dennis email is HERE.   "This is Water" -- 2005 Kenyon College Commencement Speech.

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Dennis Shaw is a musician, marathoner (Boston!), retired military officer, math modeler, muse, and United Methodist Pastor. A keen observer of the human condition, he has degrees in music, quantitative methods (don’t ask!), theology and leadership. He will discuss with other leaders how to become engaged and present in our current leadership opportunities. Critical to leadership is strong self-awareness. Becoming authentic, empathetic, and aware will form the framework of all discussions. You can access and follow this podcast on Apple, Podbean, Spotify and Amazon Music.

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