Born From Stone

Tal Wanish and Jake Reginato

Born From Stone looks to answer one question - "How did our rock climbing ecosystem come to be?" This show dives into the stories, techniques, complaints, and triumphs that have gone into the crags we know and love. From development, to hardware maintenance, to local climbing organizations, and beyond.

Episodes

  1. 2d ago

    Episode 6: Sandstone Samurai, and What Is Happening around the RRG? (w/ Erik Kloeker)

    There may not be a more popular climbing area in the country than Kentucky's Red River Gorge, and there's likely nobody who knows more about the rock, region, and climbing resources than our guest, Erik Kloeker ---- Erik Kloeker is a long-time Kentucky-based guide, steward, and developer. He’s been a big waller, established new routes internationally, and is now back in his home state helping cultivate a more skilled and safe sport as the founder and owner of Bluegrass Climbing School, and member of the Wolfe County Search and Rescue team. Where most folks may know him from, however, is his work in the heart of the Red River Gorge. Erik is responsible for several modern classics, including Chimera, Invisible Handjob, and Release the Kraken. Arguably even more impressive than that, is the extensive work he’s done with the Red River Gorge Fixed Gear Initiative, helping replace hundreds of bolts around the Gorge. If you’re more of a limestone cowboy, a quick hop across the border to the mecca that is Potrero Chico will find you several incredible lines either established or maintained by Erik as well. A second home to Erik, you can find him there in the winter months running Climb Potrero Mountain Guides.  Noticing a trend here? Erik cares deeply about the sport, and his passion for giving back through his own money, time, and sweat equity is visible everywhere he goes. Erik, welcome to the show. ---- Show Links: Red River Gorge Fixed Gear Initiative: https://www.rrgfgi.com/Wolfe County Search & Rescue (SAR): https://wcsart.com/Wolfe County SAR Podcast: https://wcsart.com/podcast/Red River Gorge Climbers' Coalition https://rrgcc.org/

  2. Sep 10

    Episode 4: Out With the Old, In With the New (w/ Anna Brown)

    How do we balance the preservation of old routes with the enablement of new ones? And who actually goes out there to do the work that needs to get done? Well, if you live in New Mexico, your answer might just be Anna Brown. ---- Anna Brown, known to many by her Instagram moniker of @mediagirl, is a New Mexico-based climber, photographer, and steward, whose work has become deeply rooted in the Southwest climbing community. Many know her for her gallery of bad, old, and downright strange bolts found when rebolting around her local haunts. What’s even more impressive, however, is her dedication to preserving the routes and crags that define the region. After encountering aging hardware on classic climbs around the Sandia Mountains a few years ago, Anna developed a passion for bolt replacement, and has since become one of New Mexico's leading rebolting advocates. Working both individually and within her role as a board member on her LCO, she has helped replace hundreds of aging bolts, anchors, and rappel stations, ensuring that climbers will continue to enjoy these places for generations to come. Whether she's behind the camera, establishing new routes, getting her hands dirty with trail work, or hanging from a rope replacing old hardware, Anna has become a leading voice for stewardship, community action, and responsible route development—helping preserve both the history and future of climbing in New Mexico.

  3. Aug 27

    Episode 3: Lights, Camera, Action (w/ Evan Wisheropp)

    Climbing media is at an all-time high, and that includes media featuring route development, stewardship, and crag care. We talk about what considerations get made in the creation of that media, the response to it, and the ideal future state, with the absolute force in development and crag care that is Evan Wisheropp. ---- For Evan, climbing has never just been about sending lines. After starting climbing over 20 years ago, Evan eventually found his calling: not solely in climbing routes, but in creating them. Since he began developing in 2014, Evan has cleaned, bolted, rebolted, and helped establish nearly 500 routes, investing tens of thousands of dollars and countless hours of his own time into developing and maintaining climbing across Northwest California. His work has helped build entire climbing areas from the ground up, revive coastal crags through large-scale bolt replacement, and turn once-obscure cliffs into established climbing destinations. He's also the author of the nearly 400-page guidebook Redwood Burl, and the founder and president of the Northwest California Climbers Coalition, where his work in route development, access, and stewardship earned him national recognition from the Access Fund. And Evan is no slouch as a climber either. He's established difficult first ascents, climbed up to 5.13, and is perhaps best known for his love of the brutal and unforgiving world of desert offwidths. Outside of climbing, Evan is a professional photographer and filmmaker, using those skills to document the routes, areas, and climbing communities he's spent years helping build.

  4. Jul 30

    Episode 1: Sensei (w/ Peter Thomas)

    Everyone has to get started somewhere, and that is no different in the world of climbing stewardship, where a mentor can be a huge boon to ensuring your early days aren't wasted. But how do you know if you've found a good mentor? And when should you pursue instruction rather than a mentorship? To find out, we sat down with Peter Thomas. ---- Peter Thomas is a Colorado-based…Well, a lot of things. He’s a climber, developer, and crag steward. He’s the former anchor replacement coordinator for the Boulder Climber Community’s Anchor Replacement Program. He is personally responsible for the replacement of thousands of bolts, not just in the Front Range, but across large swaths of the American Southwest. Peter has served both formally and informally as a mentor and instructor on bolting and rebolting to dozens of individuals, including with the Narrow Gauge Slabs mentorship program. (If you’d like to learn more, there’s a great American Alpine Club Podcast episode, as well as a short film from Jefferson County Open Space on YouTube). Established crag stewards will inevitably know his name, as he also builds and ships tools such as the YABR that have become standards in bolt replacement nationally. In addition to all of that, he’s also a climbing guide, so you can hire him for your prospective Front Range adventures. That being said, if you wanted to pay to fly him out to Kalymnos to crag with you for a week, I’m sure he wouldn’t say no either. ---- LINKS: American Alpine Club Podcast Episode - CONNECT: The Next Generation of Crag DevelopersJefferson County Open Space Youtube Video - Beyond the Bolts: Proactively Developing a Sustainable Climbing Area

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Born From Stone looks to answer one question - "How did our rock climbing ecosystem come to be?" This show dives into the stories, techniques, complaints, and triumphs that have gone into the crags we know and love. From development, to hardware maintenance, to local climbing organizations, and beyond.

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