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The Overdrive Radio podcast is produced by Overdrive magazine, the Voice of the American Trucker for 60-plus years. Host Todd Dills -- with a supporting cast among Overdrive editors, contributors and others -- presents owner-operator business leading lights, interviews with extraordinary independent truckers and small fleet owners, and plenty in the way of trucking business and regulatory news and views. Access an archive of all episodes of Overdrive Radio going back more than a decade via this link: http://overdriveonline.com/overdrive-radio

  1. FMCSA fully engaged with owner-ops at MATS: OOIDA | DACA-recipient CDL holders have hope?

    3D AGO

    FMCSA fully engaged with owner-ops at MATS: OOIDA | DACA-recipient CDL holders have hope?

    "If you're really concerned about safety numbers, we want zero fatalities, we want all these things to happen ... we have to train people, we have to pay people, and we have to give them a safe place to rest. That's the first three things we should be doing, and until we do that, we're never going to fix highway safety. It's never going to get better." --Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association Executive Vice President Lewie Pugh The good news is that, according to Pugh, FMCSA and the Department of Transportation more broadly are finally listening to truckers and other small-business interests in their push toward safety improvement, leaving behind old notions of a driver shortage. Pugh contends the notion has for decades influenced the credentialing and training system such that drivers are in effect rushed into the business, with too often terrible outcomes. Nowhere was new federal attitudes toward small business truckers in evidence more than at this year’s Mid-America Trucking Show, where regulators spent a great deal of time and effort communicating with owner-ops in attendance: https://www.overdriveonline.com/15820771 Also in the podcast, find more emphasis on OOIDA priorities with respect to the administration, and a rundown with Pugh in light of the broader freight markets, particularly after the dramatic escalation of fuel prices of late with the Iran conflict. We all found a measure guarded optimism among owner-operators in attendance, yet plenty of hope the conflict draws down quickly. Plus: We check in with Jorge Rivera Lujan, featured on Overdrive Radio earlier in the year regarding his and other plaintiffs' legal challenge to FMCSA's rule effectively eliminating most non-domiciled CDL issuance for non-citizens. Lewie Pugh got the opportunity to meet the independent owner-operator at MATS, and well knows that if the rule remains intact Rivera Lujan will lose his CDL and the current status of his business late in the year when the CDL expires: https://www.overdriveonline.com/15816105 Rivera Lujan was brought the U.S. as a child, and with another Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals recipient was able to communicate his quandary at MATS to officials as high as Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy. In some ways, there could be hope for folks like him, owner-operators adversely impacted by the non-domiciled CDL rule change in effect since March 16. Plaintiffs in the case against the non-domiciled CDL rule have filed for expedited review by the court as of about a week ago, and time will tell on that front. Meantime, owners like Rivera Lujan and others impacted explore other avenues for their futures, his experience at MATS being an eye-opening one in regard to opportunities all around trucking. Pugh stands by the non-domiciled rule change as written, generally, yet also hoped "this is unfortunately the reality we live in in our country. ... Whatever we do it seems like it goes too far one way or the other, and innocent people who are trying to do the right thing get caught up in it," Pugh said. "People smarter than me write these rules and regs, and they probably have reasons we don't understand. "It's almost impossible to write a catch-all law. It's a shame for [Rivera Lujan]. Hopefully they get something in there to change that or that could help." As for the show itself, Lewie Pugh saw a measure of hopeful positivity among owner-operators there quite in spite of dramatic fuel run-ups, with a glimmer of hope on offer in market conditions after the long drought of the last three and more years. Much more from MATS in this collection: https://overdriveonline.com/tag/mats Sign up for Overdrive's newsletter *https://bit.ly/overdrivesubscribe* for more reporting from all around small-business trucking.

    39 min
  2. Heavy/oversize permitting, 'unplugged': Will there ever be a national system?

    MAR 23

    Heavy/oversize permitting, 'unplugged': Will there ever be a national system?

    The answers to the question in the title here came rapid-fire, and with certainty, from reps of six different state agencies with oversize and overweight permits responsibilities, amid much laughter from the assembled at the Specialized Carriers & Rigging Association's transport symposium last month. To tally the answers up: four definitive 'No's, one 'Absolutely not,' and just one 'Doubtful.' Offering one of the nos was Alex Jensen, in permits with the Iowa Department of Transportation, who expanded on his and others' reasoning. Just as no two overdimensional loads are much alike, different states have different priorities, rules and infrastructures, as Overdrive's reporting around your Highway Report Card state road-maintenance assessments have also made clear in recent months. "All of our bridges are built to different standards, different ages. We have different engineers, different pavement," Jensen said. "Even the characteristitcs ... the geography, the road conditions, bridge conditions, it's all different." Unless the federal government were to mandate some unforeseen, next-to-impossible on-size-fits-all system, he added the 50-state-by-state permitting regime is probably here to stay. "I know it sucks, but it's just the way it is, unfortunately," Jensen said. Quipped Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles' Brandi Thorpe, "Unless we can get Jeff Bezos to AmazonPrime us a new structure," truckers and state permits officials are stuck with what they've got. The six officials were in conversation with ATS's Joanna Jungels (serving as moderator) at the SC&RA symposium, with plenty in the way of audience Q&A, too, where the back-and-forth really heated up with actionable intelligence. The full panel is featured in this week's edition of Overdrive Radio, offering insights and intelligence from these four additional state reps from an alphabet soup of agencies in addition to DMVs and DOTs: **Wyoming -- Port of Entry Operations Manager Troy McAlpine with the Wyoming Highway Patrol **Louisiana -- Permit Office Manager Julie Gautreau with the state DOT **Oklahoma -- Deputy General Counsel Mitch Surrett, also with his state's DOT **Indiana -- Judy Williams with Indiana's Department of Revenue You’ll hear a lot about increasingly super-complicated moves of superloads, still requiring lots of manual route planning, yet also how technology has enabled effective auto-issue in most states today at a very high rate. Learn, too, each state's approach to punitive actions for bridge strikers or construction-zone scofflaws. An audience member asked whether the states had a three-strikes or other cut-and-dried rule that might get a carrier banned from permit-issuance in the state. Most approached such on a case-by-case basis, with cutting off auto-issue access a common first step. Yet, noted Jensen, "hit a bridge, running without permits, kill a construction worker ... we'll go through the administrative suspension procedures if we need to, but I can count on one hand the number of times it's ever gotten that serious." More often, steps precede it, including more law enforcement escorts required on otherwise non-escort-necessary loads, if you needed other incentive to avoid drastic mistakes. "They do a full Level 2 inspection before you get moving, and they might find things you don't necessarily want them to find," Jensen noted. Catch Overdrive's most-recent "Niche Hauls" series installment on the heavy-oversize niche (from 2025) via this link: https://overdriveonline.com/tag/niche-hauls

    1h 2m
  3. Extreme cost, revenue volatility: Small fleet 'gun-shy' about future trucking investment

    MAR 16

    Extreme cost, revenue volatility: Small fleet 'gun-shy' about future trucking investment

    It’s been some kind of a year and more for Hell Bent Xpress owner Jamie Hagen. The South Dakota and Michigan-headquartered fleet he’s built from one truck over many years is back to 10 all-Mack power units after some reduction in the last, difficult year. Hagen was among Overdrive’s Small Fleet Championship finalists a couple years back. Along with past Small Fleet Champ Jason Cowan of Silver Creek Transportation in Kentucky, last year Hagen was tapped for the opening panel discussion at the big Mid-America Trucking Show: https://overdriveonline.com/15741773 The pair of champs will run it back in that panel to set the stage for small-business issues at the big show again this year. It's on the MATS schedule for early the morning of March 26 to kick things off, and for this week's edition of Overdrive Radio Hagen delivers a bit of a preview of what we’re likely to hear there: https://truckingshow.com/schedule/ Safe to say you can expect discussion of fuel economy and purchasing, given the last couple weeks. It’s so bad on the fuel front there’s evidence of owners just parking their trucks to wait it out. (A friend of mine here in Nashville took a car to the airport this past week. His driver: an owner-operator in just such a situation, who noted he was going to wait it out and just do the Uber-driving thing meantime. Gasoline, at least, is still a good dollar/gal. and more below diesel, even near $2 less in some cases.) Hell Bent Jamie Hagen’s got a not-so-secret weapon in his fuel arsenal in one of the first Mack Pioneers to roll off the assembly line last year. He's got a driver in it at the moment as he himself focuses with his wife and business partner, Hillary, on office duties. "He's been getting after it," Hagen noted of the truck's operator, who's "really good at fuel economy." The Pioneer, spec'd for max efficiency pulling a van, averaged 9.8 mpg for the last month. While that's a whole lot better than 5.8, Hagen noted, the Iran war and the diesel run-up since just wasn't "on the bingo card" looking out at prospects when planning for 2026. Even with excellent efficiency, the fuel-price hike of the last two weeks virtually erased gains in brokered rates he'd seen since the Fall. It's all made him "gun-shy," to an extent, about future investments, given Hell Bent's push to ever-more-efficient equipment with five more Pioneers acquired last year to replace older units. As he put it, "you just never know when the bottom's going to fall out" with cost and revenue volatility as bad as it's been. With good direct freight and rates coming out of the Dakotas, a project this year will be to identity customers for the return trips to further cut the reliance on brokers, Hagen notes in this week's episode, where we touch on the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration's broker transparency and other regulatory efforts, and much more. More upcoming at MATS in this collection: https://overdriveonline.com/tag/mats

    31 min
  4. Trucker of the Month documenting the owner-operator journey, and: Diesel! Diesel! Diesel!

    MAR 9

    Trucker of the Month documenting the owner-operator journey, and: Diesel! Diesel! Diesel!

    Off the top of the podcast this week, the voice of February Trucker of the Month Adam Mackey, headquartered in Mustang, Oklahoma, about his "Aftersolo" Youtube channel where's been documenting his journey through owner-operated trucking since 2022. Named after his dog, Solo, whom he'd sadly lost around that time, Aftersolo features plenty in the way of DIY care he's put into the Freightliner Columbia and Utility flatbed that carry the Mosermackey Trucking business forward. The channel is a remarkable repository for various and sundry of the owner-operator’s maintenance and modification projects on the Columbia, likewise all manner of other topics around the business. First things first, though. It's been a week, to say the least, in the world oil markets. If you’ve been paying attention to OverdriveOnline.com you’ll note an update that diesel prices passed $4/gal. early last week in Nashville where Overdrive Radio host Todd Dills is headquartered, fast on the heels of U.S. and Isreali strikes on Iran: https://overdriveonline.com/15818628 Today (Monday, March 9) Dills reports predictions of a "runaway market" in that story a week ago appear correct. "We’ve passed five dollars for a gallon of diesel here" in Nashville, Dills says, "well above six out on the West Coast of course and elsewhere." If you’re in a leased operation or working with shippers where you benefit from fuel-surcharge rate adjustments, here’s hope those are updating quickly to cover rapidly increasing costs. If you’re working with brokers, don’t be shy about educating them in your negotiations, such as they may need it, about cost-offset needs in the rate. For many independents like Adam Mackey, it's surely been a week full of that, and it's a real shame the diesel run-up has come when it has, given the gains in freight-market strength in the last several months. This all certainly throws a wrench in those gears: https://overdriveonline.com/15818852 Keep tuned to OverdriveOnline.com for more quite soon on how quickly spot markets adjusted, or not, to last week’s dramatic run-up. For the bulk of the podcast, hear independent Mosermackey Trucking business owner Adam Mackey’s story, in his own words, also chronicled in this feature attendant to his February Trucker of the Month nod a couple weeks back: https://overdriveonline.com/15817984 In business with authority since before the COVID pandemic, after years hauling as a company driver with Old Dominion Freight Line and some other outfits before that, Mackey's trucked with authority from the very start and has focused most on flatbeds loads, filling in with power-only work of various types, too. He’s set up with a go-to broker he’s built a solid relationship with for much of his oil-field-related freight today, sure to benefit at least from oil market run-ups in the short term, despite added costs for his and every other trucking business out there. Mentioned in the podcast: **Enter your own or another deserving owner-operator business to compete for the 2026 Trucker of the Year award: https://overdriveonline.com/toptrucker **Overdrive's Load Profit Analyzer: https://overdriveonline.com/load-analyzer

    34 min
  5. 'Clean this mess up': FMCSA chief's mission with CDLs, ELDs, chameleon carriers, more

    MAR 2

    'Clean this mess up': FMCSA chief's mission with CDLs, ELDs, chameleon carriers, more

    In this week's edition of the Overdrive Radio podcast, catch the address delivered by, and Q&A with, Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration chief Derek Barrs at the annual transportation symposium of the Specialized Carriers and Rigging Association, held last week in Birmingham, Alabama. Barrs touches on quite a lot, including the last-week-introduced Dalilah Law that might cement the FMCSA’s preferred approach to limiting non-domiciled CDLs for non-citizens but that also casts a wide net on CDL recertifications: https://overdriveonline.com/15818235 His talk came the morning of the very day, Feb. 26, that petitioners challenging that non-domiciled final rule filed a formal request for a stay of the March 16 effective date, pending court review. While Barrs didn't note the new filing or the past court action against the prior rule version, he cast the agency's moves on CDL qualifications as fundamentally necessary. "We are taking steps from our non-domiciled CDL process to make sure that we strengthen that so that when we issue that, we're not issuing to someone who has not been truly vetted," Barrs said, "and we're not giving driver's licenses to individuals who are only supposed to be in this country for two years but we're allowing them to have CDLs for eight or nine years. That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life" -- a reference to evidence uncovered by federal auditors in a variety of states of legal presence and CDL term mismatches. After the applause died down, Barrs added, "That is a one-size-fits-all." That's not how the likes of owner-operator Jorge Rivera Lujan and his fellow litigants see it, however. Their challenge to the FMCSA’s non-domiciled CDL final rule noted quite a different dynamic in FMCSA’s safety justification for its rule, which would invalidate Rivera’s CDL eligibility. A non-domiciled CDL holder for many years now, owner-operator Rivera, unlike many more recent arrivals to the country, has lived virtually his entire life in the U.S. after his undocumented parents brought him to California. He enjoys the protections of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals or DACA program, as listeners heard with our talk with Rivera a few weeks back: https://overdriveonline.com/15816105 He and fellow litigants asked the court to stay the rule pending review, generally arguing the agency paints the situation of non-domiciled CDL holders today with too broad a brush, Rivera a principal example. Hear much more from Barrs about the agency's perspective in the podcast, likewise potential upcoming rulemakings around electronic-logging-device and training-provider certification, "chameleon carrier" enforcement and more. As mentioned in the podcast: **Long Haul Paul pays tribute to Travis "The Snakeman" Wammack, forever memorialied in none other than the them of Overdrive Radio. ****Arkansas' HB 1745: https://overdriveonline.com/15742569 **Dalilah Law: https://overdriveonline.com/15818340 **DOT/FMCSA press conference week prior to Barrs' talk: https://overdriveonline.com/15817793 **Lawsuit challenging non-domiciled CDL rule: https://overdriveonline.com/15818372

    1h 3m
  6. OTR trucker-songwriter Long Haul Paul's 'After Party Sessions' to debut with 2026 MATS show

    FEB 23

    OTR trucker-songwriter Long Haul Paul's 'After Party Sessions' to debut with 2026 MATS show

    We're getting ready for big Mid-America Trucking Show next month, March 26-28 at the Louisville Convention Center, and ready to host our Trucker of the Year and cover all manner of the various goings on at the event. It's a big undertaking, from set-up to roll-out of the custom-truck show in the Paul K. Young Memorial competition to federal and state regulatory panels, trucking-business discussions and all the rest happening at the huge event: https://overdriveonline.com/tag/mats Yet we’ve got help from a bit of a not-so-secret weapon who this year happens to be an integral part of the official MATS programming. He’s the player of and songwriter behind much of the music you hear under the voices on Overdrive Radio week-in-week-out, the man we’ve featured here too many times to count and whom regular readers will also know from his stories and tall tales, interviews, oral histories of OTR drivers of all stripes, and so much more all published under the Overdrive Extra banner at OverdriveOnline.com: https://overdriveonline.com/14865330 That writer, that performer, that veritable sage of the road, Long Haul Paul Marhoefer, will feature with others during the Friday night concert at MATS this year. He’s got a couple of records upcoming, too, set for release in the coming weeks: One is archival from 1994, previously unreleased material from an embryonic stage of LHP's evolution as a songwriter he's calling "1994: The Lost Tapes." Then "The After Party Sessions" features live recordings from night shows at various trucking events over the last several years, most held in the custom-outfitted venue trailer of Brandon Carpenter that is the Old Iron Bar. Off the top of the podcast, a bit of taste of that live record via a track that is the very first of Marhoefer’s we ever heard at Overdrive, when he competed in Overdrive’s Trucker Talent Search music competition more than 10 years ago now: https://overdriveonline.com/14888649 He’d go on to place second that year. And his star rose so quickly among owner-operators and drivers in the aftermath that he never competed again -- no doubt in our minds he'd have won it had he. But he became a real fixture in performances around the competitors after that, alongside copious writing and reporting he’s done for Overdrive since, all with a clear desire to tell the stories of others with care, with faith to the their voices and no small sense of empathy for the struggles we all endure. LHP brings all of that to his songwriting as well. He’s endured plenty himself in life and trucking, as he memorably chronicled as host of our Over the Road podcast back in 2020, which saw air in partnership with the Radiotopia podcast network: https://www.overdriveonline.com/t/4405867 Don’t miss his performance at MATS, yet if that show’s just not in the cards for you this year, know that he’ll be out at a variety of other events throughout the year, though somewhat limited compared to prior years given his father, near Madison, Wisconsin, has needed home care that he and his siblings and other family members have been coordinating. The "long haul" in LHP remains a reality for Marhoefer, if he does call his trucking career at this stage a kind of semi-retirement. He still hauls for Ohio-headquartered Moeller Trucking and lives with his wife, Denise, in Losantville, Indiana, the pair an undisputed force in trucking music and culture. In the podcast, he talks through tracks from both the new records as well as 2023 and 2024’s “Legends of the Lost Highway” and “Floodwaters and Fires” records, respectively. Sit back, relax, and enjoy. Hope to see you at MATS. New records should be available around the time of MATS: https://www.longhaulpaulmusic.com/ Marhoefer's chronicle of his near-death encounter with a set of runaway duals in 2023: https://overdriveonline.com/15304967 More at the head of our Music to Truck By playlist: https://soundcloud.com/overdriveradio/sets/music-to-truck-by-no-1

    46 min
  7. 'She's the rock': Owner-operator Patrick White's solid partner through tough times

    FEB 16

    'She's the rock': Owner-operator Patrick White's solid partner through tough times

    In this week’s edition of Overdrive Radio, drop in with our first Trucker of the Month for the year, West-Virginia-headquarterd Top Notch Transport and its owner-operator Patrick White. White trucks today in a beautiful 2001 Peterbilt 379 hauling a variety of equipment on a step deck, and here tells a story of perseverance through accidents and injuries, and building a team around him to excel despite the barriers fate’s thrown at him. It’s in response to a question from Overdrive Senior Editor Matt Cole that White emphasized the gratitude he felt to his own team, most notably his wife, Ashlyn, now managing many aspects of the business: https://overdriveonline.com/15815895 Cole asked White for his best piece of advice for new and/or aspiring owner-operators. White duly came with this -- no-nonsense, to the point: "Don't give up, don't listen to negative people, and learn everything you can from the old guys" who've done it all before, owner-operator White said. But he didn't leave it there. "Have a supportive wife, or somebody that is there for you, even if it's just a friend," he said, adding of Ashlyn White, who nominated him for the 2026 Trucker of the Year award: "She's the rock, she's the foundation of the business. She really is." As with so many of our Trucker of the Year contenders through the years, Trucker should well be plural in this case for the team behind the Whites’ Top Notch Transport, trucking with authority now for getting on a decade. Ashlyn not only handled tarping and more for Patrick while he was recovering a broken leg last year, more routinely she can and does do pretty much "everything but drive," White noted, from dispatching to handling "all the paperwork and compliance for the business." Hear contending Truckers of the Year Patrick and Ashlyn White's story in this week's Overdrive Radio podcast. Nominate your own or another deserving owner-operator business for the 2026 Trucker of the Year award: https://overdriveonline.com/toptrucker

    18 min
  8. 'I will not idle, ever': Owner-op channels old-school approach for emissions-fail prevention

    FEB 9

    'I will not idle, ever': Owner-op channels old-school approach for emissions-fail prevention

    In this week's Overdrive Radio, part 2 of our series honoring our Trucker of the Year, John Penn, for the big win for 2025. Part 1, ICYMI: https://overdriveonline.com/15815690 In this edition, Penn details his approach to maintenance with an experiment he's conducted to extend oil drain intervals beyond the manufacturer-recommended 75,000 miles for his 2019 Freightliner Cascadia. Also: You'll hear about Penn's close attention to customer opportunity, and keys to prevention when it comes to the maintenance issues with emissions system in the Cascadia -- no "deleted" emissions here. He’s running with all the sensors and the diesel particular filter, the diesel exhaust fluid dosing, and the rest, and hitting big fuel-efficiency numbers we detailed in the last episode featuring him. Above 10 mpg for a lifetime average is certainly nothing to sniff at, but has he been plagued with sensor failures and other problems common to emissions-equipped diesels? The answer is not really, though he’s had some minor issues for certain. Part of his success on that front starts with his approach to the used market for such trucks to begin with -- with a keen eye not just on a prospective purchase's miles for previous-life wear and tear, but engine hours, too. The lower the hours, the less the unit’s prior owner likely idled the rig -- one of the big killers of emissions equipment in modern trucks in his view. Penn, despite his late-model equipment, might well qualify among the oldest of the old-school in that regard. As he put it about his own idling practice: "This piece of machinery is feeding us and keeping a roof over our head," Penn noted, "so I want to treat it the best I can. I will not idle, ever. I don't care how hot it is." That's right, even in Texas in mid-summer, where he finds himself often enough at the end of one or another of his LTL furniture runs. "I don't have an APU or anything," he added, but he does utilize a fan and his truck's window screens. He’s comfortable with the tradeoff. "I'd rather put my truck's health in front of my comfort," he said, laughing. He does run with a fuel-fired heater for those dangrously cold temps, but it’s safe to say Trucker of the Year John Penn is one tough customer when it comes to downtime OTR. In the podcast, dive into new opportunities he’s set himself up for with diligent, always-on customer service and networking. "You never know when an opportunity is going to pop up," he said, about potential new direct freight opportunites he details here. And he's made great strides, too, paying his growing experience forward to peers. There's good possibility of a bit of expansion for his one-truck JP Transport business as soon as this quarter, with addition of a leased owner he's really bonded with as a back-and-forth sounding board for trucking information, knowledge, advice. The like-minded pair may soon make for a great two-truck hauling team in JP Transport. Enter the 2026 Trucker of the Year competition: https://overdriveonline.com/toptrucker

    37 min
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The Overdrive Radio podcast is produced by Overdrive magazine, the Voice of the American Trucker for 60-plus years. Host Todd Dills -- with a supporting cast among Overdrive editors, contributors and others -- presents owner-operator business leading lights, interviews with extraordinary independent truckers and small fleet owners, and plenty in the way of trucking business and regulatory news and views. Access an archive of all episodes of Overdrive Radio going back more than a decade via this link: http://overdriveonline.com/overdrive-radio

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