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A podcast on statistical science and clinical trials. Explore the intricacies of Bayesian statistics and adaptive clinical trials. Uncover methods that push beyond conventional paradigms, ushering in data-driven insights that enhance trial outcomes while ensuring safety and efficacy. Join us as we dive into complex medical challenges and regulatory landscapes, offering innovative solutions tailored for pharma pioneers. Featuring expertise from industry leaders, each episode is crafted to provide clarity, foster debate, and challenge mainstream perspectives, ensuring you remain at the forefront of clinical trial excellence.

  1. 3D AGO

    Communication for Scientists: A Discussion with Jenny Devenport

    In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Jenny Devenport, Global Head of Methods, Collaboration, and Outreach at Roche, joins Dr. Scott Berry for a detailed discussion on career evolution, statistical culture, and communication in the pharmaceutical industry. Dr. Devenport describes her transition from psychology in New Mexico to statistical leadership in Basel, emphasizing the formative role of early academic mentors and her experience working across the US and Europe. She outlines her current functions in methods development, internal collaboration, and industry outreach, highlighting active engagement with academic and regulatory communities. The episode scrutinizes differences in workplace culture, such as the emphasis on debate and long-term collaboration in Europe, and differences in educational backgrounds among statisticians. The conversation covers practical barriers and slow adoption of Bayesian methods and the importance of communication in the acceptance of futility analyses in pharma, the importance of scale in problem-solving, and the emergence of AI as a tool for statisticians. Dr. Devenport provides pragmatic strategies for statisticians to improve their influence through tailored, audience-specific communication. Key Highlights Dr. Devenport’s academic and geographic move from the US to EuropeResponsibilities in methods development, collaboration, and outreach at RocheContrasts in US and European pharmaceutical statistics culturesMeasured perspective on AI’s effect on statisticians’ responsibilitiesPractical guidance for statisticians on communication and influence

    40 min

  2. DEC 15

    Navigating the Arena: Platform Trials

    In this episode of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry delivers a metaphoric critique of single-question trial infrastructure through the sports arena analogy, illustrating the cost, patient burden, and data inefficiency of conventional clinical trials. He provides a methodical comparison of traditional trial models and the platform trial approach, clarifying distinctions between platform, basket, and master protocol structures. Through examples from HEALEY ALS, I-SPY 2, PALM (Ebola), REMAP-CAP, RECOVERY, EPAD, GBM AGILE, and Precision Promise, Scott outlines the measurable efficiencies of platform trials: shared control arms, flexible arm addition and removal, reduced placebo exposure, accelerated timelines, and improved statistical inferences. The episode further examines platform trial performance during the COVID-19 pandemic, highlighting  trial adaptability, and the rapid generation of actionable evidence. Scott also addresses failure scenarios, focusing on EPAD Alzheimer’s as a cautionary case in platform sustainability, cost allocation, and initial funding barriers. Listeners will gain a perspective on the operational and statistical design choices governing today’s most innovative clinical studies. Key Highlights Arena analogy applied to delineate clinical research inefficiency.Operational, statistical, and patient-focused efficiencies in platform versus single-question trials.Precision in terminology: platform, basket, and master protocol definitions.Effects of platform trials on speed and scientific rigor.Factors underlying both platform trial successes and failures.For more, visit us at https://www.berryconsultants.com/

    50 min

  3. DEC 8

    Jumping Hurdles: Interim Analyses for Funding Decisions

    In episode 40 of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry examines the statistical, operational, and behavioral challenges of using interim analyses as triggers for funding in adaptive and seamless Phase II/III clinical trials. The episode presents a typical hypothetical scenario for rare disease drug development, contrasting conventional two-stage development with a seamless design and highlighting efficiency gains in sample size, patient allocation, and trial duration. Scott details the construction of administrative (financial) interim analyses, underscoring their distinction from futility analyses and their role in funding decisions when complete funding is not secured upfront. He addresses FDA operational bias concerns, emphasizing blinding and limiting information sharing to protect trial integrity. Finally, the episode focuses on developing objective interim funding criteria—using Bayesian predictive probability and assurance—and on leveraging illustrative simulation outputs and sample datasets to bridge the “I’ll know it when I see it” divide between scientists and funders. Practical, empirical, and tailored to real funding barriers in clinical research. Key Highlights Statistical structure and efficiency of seamless Phase II/III trial designsAdministrative (financial) interim analysis setup as funding decision triggers, distinct from futility analysesFDA operational bias guidance and requirements for trial blindingPredictive probability and assurance as objective interim criteriaSample data and simulation outputs to facilitate stakeholder alignmentFor more, visit us at https://www.berryconsultants.com/

    42 min

  4. DEC 1

    Discussion with Kaspar Rufibach

    In this episode of "In the Interim...", Dr. Scott Berry interviews Dr. Kaspar Rufibach, Co-Head of Advanced Biostatistical Sciences at Merck. The conversation tracks Rufibach’s evolution from academic training in actuarial and mathematical statistics through cancer research collaborations, postdoctoral work, and academic consulting, leading to applied roles in Roche and Merck. Discussion centers on methodological rigor, pragmatic approaches to assurance and predictive probability, and real-world experience in drug development. Rufibach examines the organizational integration of quantitative disciplines at Merck—incorporating pharmacology, real-world data, statistics, programming, and data science—while remaining candid on the role and boundaries of AI in current pharmaceutical practice. Key Highlights Statistical education in Switzerland, bridging theory and early applied cancer trial experienceMove from academic consulting to a trial statistician role at Roche, emphasizing structured problem-solving in drug developmentApproach to predictive probability and assurance, balancing Bayesian and frequentist tools with strict emphasis on practicalityFormation of professional special interest groups with EFSPI and PSI, stepping in to address unmet community needs rather than seeking formal leadershipPerspective on Merck’s unified quantitative department, designed to remove silos and leverage interdisciplinary expertiseCautious view of AI as a complement to specific tasks, but not yet a replacement for nuanced clinical trial design or regulatory-facing strategiesCurrent focus on expanding causal inference methods and multi-state modeling for improved trial efficiency and evidence synthesisFor more, visit us at https://www.berryconsultants.com/

    47 min

  5. NOV 24

    Bayesian Statistics in Clinical trials: The Past, Present, and Future

    In this episode of "In the Interim…" guest host Cooper Berry moderates a detailed discussion on the evolution and practice of Bayesian methodology in clinical trials with fellow family members Dr. Don Berry, Dr. Scott Berry, Dr. Lindsay Berry, and Dr. Nick Berry. The panel outlines the foundational principles of Bayesian decision-making in medical research, ethical debates informed by historical reports like the Belmont Report, and the shift in regulatory acceptance. Computational developments such as Markov Chain Monte Carlo (MCMC) are examined for their role in enabling applied Bayesian models. Panelists give practical accounts of implementing adaptive and platform trials, including I-SPY 2 and REMAP-CAP, and analyze challenges faced during the COVID-19 pandemic. The implications of Bayesian statistics in artificial intelligence and contemporary clinical decision-making are explored, highlighting ongoing shifts in trial design and evidence synthesis. Each discussion is grounded in direct experience and technical rigor, providing insight into both the operational realities and future trajectory of Bayesian-driven methods in clinical research. Key Highlights: Historical development of Bayesian clinical trial design and foundational influence from Leonard J. Savage to current methodsEthical tension in trial conduct, referencing the Belmont Report and equipoiseAdvances in computation and Markov Chain Monte Carlo (MCMC)Regulatory frameworks for Bayesian adaptive trials, including FDA guidanceImplementation details from I-SPY 2 and REMAP-CAP platform trialsBayesian methodology in the context of artificial intelligence, precision medicine, and future data integrationFor more, visit us at https://www.berryconsultants.com/

    1h 7m

  6. NOV 17

    A Visit with Stroke Neurologist Dr. Jeff Saver

    In episode 37 of "In the Interim…", Dr. Jeff Saver, Director of the UCLA Comprehensive Stroke and Vascular Neurology Program, details his shift from behavioral neurology to clinical stroke research after early engagement with multicenter trials like TOAST. The discussion covers the biology of acute ischemic stroke, quantifying neuronal loss, and the scientific underpinnings of “time is brain.” Dr. Saver outlines the evolution of endovascular therapy, from early device challenges to current reperfusion success rates exceeding 85%. Key methodological issues in stroke trial analyses are presented, including debate over endpoint selection—dichotomous versus ordinal approaches and the limitations therein. Special focus is placed on the utility-weighted modified Rankin Scale, which assigns empirically derived, patient-centered health values to each disability state, providing a comprehensive measure that captures both benefit and harm. The episode explores regulatory hesitancy, differing analytic preferences within the field, and the design prospects for neuroprotectant interventions. Heterogeneity in patient outcomes and implications for public health and trial methodology are addressed. The episode provides an empirical account of clinical trial endpoint selection, interpretation, and future directions in cerebrovascular research. Key Highlights Early career influences and pivotal trial participation.Pathophysiology and quantification of acute stroke injury.Endovascular device development and clinical impact.Comparative analysis of endpoint methods: dichotomous, ordinal, and utility-weighted approaches.Technical derivation and application of utility-weighted mRS.Ongoing regulatory and methodological debate.Heterogeneity in ischemic vulnerability and future trial directions.For more, visit us at https://www.berryconsultants.com/

    37 min

  7. NOV 10

    The Saga of the Lecanemab Adaptive Phase II Trial

    In Episode 36 of "In the Interim…", Dr. Scott Berry and Dr. Don Berry analyze the Phase II trial of Lecanemab (BAN2401) in Alzheimer’s disease, focusing on the application of adaptive Bayesian methods following persistent failures in Alzheimer’s drug development. The conversation covers the specific design features of five active arms, response adaptive randomization, and a longitudinal Bayesian model driving interim decisions, as well as direct operational and statistical challenges encountered during the trial. The hosts address regulatory proceedings, critique from "experts" regarding adaptive methods on noisy cognitive endpoints, and the direct alignment of the trial’s Bayesian 18-month efficacy estimates with the subsequent Phase III results and regulatory approvals. Key Highlights Alzheimer’s drug development context: Widespread Phase III failures prompted a retreat from conventional trial designs and a demand for greater rigor and adaptability.Lecanemab Phase II methodology: Five active arms, two dosing schedules, response adaptive randomization, and adaptive interim analyses at every 50 patients enabled real-time adjustment and efficient dose evaluation.Bayesian modeling and imputation: Use of a longitudinal model to address missing data, forecast 12- and 18-month outcomes, and inform both allocation and stopping criteria.Operational adaptations: The design accommodated unplanned safety restrictions, such as stratified randomization for APOE4-positive participants after ARIA signals.Expert skepticism: Addressed Paul Aisen’s concerns about adapting to noisy interim cognitive data, emphasizing safeguards against erroneous stopping or success.Regulatory outcome: The 18-month efficacy estimates from Bayesian modeling during Phase II matched Phase III findings; FDA granted accelerated approval based on amyloid reduction and later full approval after Phase III confirmation.For more, visit us at https://www.berryconsultants.com/

    52 min

  8. NOV 3

    Teaching Statistics and Data Science through Sports with Dr. Jim Albert

    On this episode of “In the Interim…”, which is co-sponsored by the Journal of Statistics and Data Science Education, Dr. Scott Berry talks with Dr. Jim Albert, Professor Emeritus at Bowling Green State University, whose extensive work encompasses Bayesian statistics and computation, sports analytics, and decades of exemplary teaching. Dr. Albert shares insights on integrating sports into statistics education and discusses his transition from academic roots to consulting for the Houston Astros. This episode highlights the evolution of sports statistics—from manual data collection to sophisticated analytics—and critiques traditional metrics in favor of advanced systems. The dialogue explores career opportunities in sports statistics as well as the need for open research avenues in sports analytics, facilitating broader access and distribution of statistical insights. Key Highlights Use of sports to contextualize statistical concepts, providing practical illustrations over abstract textbook issuesExposing misconceptions about randomness, streakiness, and “clutch ability” perpetuated by both public myths and sports simulationsAnalytical evolution from traditional metrics like batting average to advanced assessments like OPS and on-base percentageRegression-to-the-mean explained with sports scenarios and its analogous application in clinical trial progressionChallenges in adopting a unified approach to teaching statistics given students’ diverse cultural and sports familiarityBarriers in publishing sports analytics research, prompting initiatives for accessible, open publicationsFor more, visit: https://www.berryconsultants.com/

    38 min
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A podcast on statistical science and clinical trials. Explore the intricacies of Bayesian statistics and adaptive clinical trials. Uncover methods that push beyond conventional paradigms, ushering in data-driven insights that enhance trial outcomes while ensuring safety and efficacy. Join us as we dive into complex medical challenges and regulatory landscapes, offering innovative solutions tailored for pharma pioneers. Featuring expertise from industry leaders, each episode is crafted to provide clarity, foster debate, and challenge mainstream perspectives, ensuring you remain at the forefront of clinical trial excellence.

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