Intrinsically Ordered

Cade Bradley
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Exploring the intersection of queer identity and catholicism - sharing stories of those who've left, remained, and created their own journeys; providing commentary on the catholic church's harmful teachings; helping those who've been hurt.

  1. JAN 28

    Catholic Apologist Says Slavery Is Okay In Debate About Jesus' Resurrection

    *Skip to 01:23:00 - if you just want to see the slavery bit* After a few months off podcasting, I came back with one of the wildest conversations I’ve had with a Catholic apologist. This is my third debate with Noah from  ⁨@Jesus.andwhatnot⁩   and we start in a pretty normal place: the historicity of Jesus, what (if anything) we can know from the sources, how reliable the Gospels are, and whether claims like crucifixion and resurrection can be treated like other ancient historical questions. Then the conversation takes a sharp turn into epistemology—faith vs. history, “first principles,” and whether the Catholic Church can be treated as an infallible authority. And yes: there’s a moment where he starts defending slavery, which honestly caught me off guard in real time. If you want the calm historical discussion, it’s here. If you want the “what did I just hear” moment, you’ll definitely find it. Either way, I hope this helps you think more clearly about what counts as evidence, what counts as faith, and how people build worldviews. 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Return 02:43 Debate Setup: Historicity of Jesus 06:04 Exploring the Historical Jesus 18:34 Crucifixion and Resurrection Debate 32:03 Skepticism and Historical Evidence 47:51 The Presupposition of Jesus as God 48:25 Mary's Perpetual Virginity: Historical or Faith Claim? 49:28 Catholicism and Historical Claims 53:43 Epistemology and Circular Reasoning 55:45 First Principles and Trust in the Catholic Church 59:08 Faith vs. Historical Evidence 01:02:46 The Role of the Catholic Church in Morality 01:06:07 Debating the Stability of Worldviews 01:09:31 The Evolution of Catholic Doctrine 01:23:00 - DEFENDING SLAVERY 01:27:11 Closing Statements and Reflections To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

    1h 35m

  2. 12/01/2025

    "I Was Raised In the Latin Mass. Here's Why I'm Not Catholic Anymore" - @KevinNonTradicath

    I got to sit down in person with fellow ex-Catholic creator  ⁨@Nontradicath⁩   for a long-awaited crossover: why we’re not Catholic anymore. Kevin shares his journey from being “born into” the traditionalist FSSP world—daily Latin Mass, grace-maxing, Marian devotions—to slowly realizing that so much of what he’d been taught as “history” looks a lot more like legend.  We talk Old Testament authorship, Adam and Eve, gospel reliability, Marian apparitions like Fatima and Guadalupe, and the uncomfortable gap between what Catholic scholars actually say in academic work and what popular apologists tell the pews and YouTube. 00:00 Kevin's Background and Catholic Answers 04:00 Why We're Not Catholic Anymore 07:19 Historical and Biblical Skepticism 09:49 Marian Apparitions and Church History 11:46 Catholic Apologetics 20:10 Community and Catholicism 23:55 Catholic Scholars vs. Apologists 25:42 Frustrations with Apologetics 29:08 Deconstructing Catholic Beliefs 41:36 The Role of Fiction and Stories To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

    48 min

  3. 11/24/2025

    Natural Law Actually Disagrees with the Catholic Church on Sexual Ethics w/ Chris Damian

    In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, Cade sits down with gay Catholic writer and lawyer Chris Damian to unpack one of the most abused buzzwords in Catholic debates: natural law. They trace how Aristotle, Aquinas, and virtue ethics get flattened into YouTube talking points, why “sex is for babies and bonding” doesn’t actually settle anything, and how natural law gets weaponized against LGBT people, contraception, and queer families while mysteriously ignoring things like smoking and worker exploitation. From Latin Mass culture and “Catholic Inc.” to chastity, conversion therapy, and bad analogies about chairs, cups, and diet soda, Cade and Chris ask: What would natural law look like if we actually cared about human flourishing—especially for queer people—instead of just defending a pre-decided rulebook? 00:00 Natural Law in Catholicism 01:35 Catholic Inc. and Rad Trad Explained 03:31 Natural Law and Sexual Ethics 09:39 Critiques and Complexities of Natural Law 14:17 Marriage and Natural Law 20:25 Natural Law in Practice and Popular Misconceptions 37:58 Christian Natural Law and Intuitive Goods 46:30 The Anorexia Argument and Natural Law 50:56 The Flaws in Catholic Natural Law Arguments 56:14 The One-Way Valve of Catholic Studies 58:10 Adoption and Same-Sex Couples 59:52 The Complexity of Human Flourishing 01:04:06 The Inconsistencies in Catholic Sexual Ethics 01:06:57 The Broader Implications of Natural Law To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

    1h 31m

  4. 11/21/2025

    Why I Didn't Covert to Catholicism - Ex-Catholic Philosopher and Catholic YouTuber w/ @evan_raugust

    I sit down with Catholic YouTuber  @evan_raugust after a wild weekend where we went to seven churches in one weekend: Messianic Jewish, Catholic, Pentecostal, Orthodox, Anglican, non-denominational megachurch, and a Presbyterian church plant. Evan's full main channel video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHejO1GGbwU&t=651s We unpack how each community tells a different story about God, heaven, and everyday life—Latin Mass vs fog machines, house-church Orthodoxy vs televised sermons, “I felt the Holy Spirit” vs “this still doesn’t make me a believer.” We talk conversion, deconstruction, the pull of beauty and liturgy, and why some churches felt genuinely soulful while others felt like spiritual factories. If you’re curious how an ex-Catholic atheist and a convinced Catholic convert experience the same services in totally different ways, this conversation is for you. 00:00 Weekend Adventure: Visiting Different Churches 01:20 Evan's Religious Background 03:48 Cade's Religious Background 04:49 Collaboration and Video Concept 11:46 Messianic Jewish Church Experience 14:59 Catholic Church Experience 19:00 Pentecostal Prayer Service Experience 20:46 Catholic vs Evangelical Views on End Times 23:18 Orthodox Church Experience 27:17 Non-Denominational Church Visit 31:16 Anglican Evensong Service 33:33 Nova Church: A Presbyterian Experience 38:00 Reflections on Visiting Multiple Churches 42:13 Concluding Thoughts on Religion and Atheism To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

    45 min

  5. 11/16/2025

    No, Gay People Didn't Ruin Your Friendships (Religious Catholic Homophobia Did)

    Christian youtube video essays keep claiming that “LGBT ideology” ruined male friendship, but I have no clue what they're on about. As a gay ex-Catholic, I use my old theological training to look at the “and they were just roommates” discourse, the panic over male affection, and the erasure of queer couples from history. I also share my own story of trying to be a devout, rule-following Catholic while secretly gay—and what I discovered about friendship once I left that homophobic bubble. Creators featured in this video:  @theLOOPcast  @TheCounselofTrent  @amenalex  @AscensionPresents  @jasonevert   00:00 Gay People Stole Your Frogs and Toads 06:48 And History Will Call Them Roommates 23:11 Keep The Socks On 36:38 The Real Victims To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

    48 min

  6. 11/05/2025

    Catholic vs Protestant vs Atheist Debates Online with Elijah Lamb (Christian Preacher)

    After debating together on the Ellen Fisher Podcast, Elijah Lamb (Gen-Z Christian preacher and well-known TikToker) and I (ex-Catholic, now atheist debater) sat down to unpack Gen-Z Catholicism, Protestant/Catholic/Atheist debate culture, and why certainty theater replaces discipleship. We talk caricatures (“read church history, become Catholic”), denominational hopping, Mary/Eucharist misunderstandings, street-apologetics gotchas, humility vs. victory, and how online arguments are getting more technical—and more honest. What should Catholics, Protestants, and atheists actually do next? 00:00 Rise of Gen Z Catholicism 02:47 Personal Faith Journeys 04:54 Debating Apologetics 07:33 Youth and Theological Exploration 10:26 Navigating Online Religious Debates 30:22 The Role of Apologetics in Faith 34:26 The Futility of Online Religious Debates 36:32 The Impact of Apologetics on Personal Faith 43:31 The Evolution of Christian-Atheist Debates 49:41 Advice for Catholic Apologists and Atheists To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

    1h 4m

  7. 09/02/2025

    How the Right-Wing Is Bringing Back Conversion Therapy Through The Supreme Court (Chiles v Salazar)

    My infographic about this case: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a6-vYf6qIZ8r9xS3G_dRGTaF6qi-hOVK/view?usp=sharing A new “victim” has entered the culture war stage at the Supreme Court. After the “No Cake” baker and the “No Website” designer, meet “No Therapy” Kaley— a Christian counselor recruited by well-funded right-wing legal groups to challenge Colorado’s bipartisan ban on conversion therapy for minors. In this episode, I break down the Salazar case, the PR tactics behind it, and the dangerous history of conversion therapy. We’ll look at how billionaires bankroll fake plaintiffs, how discredited psychologists invented “reparative therapy,” and why banning conversion therapy is actually a win for both kids and conservative faith communities. 00:00 Background on Conversion Therapy Laws 01:46 Manufacturing a Victim 03:33 The Case of Kaley Chiles 04:52 Public Narrative and Legal Arguments 09:53 The History and Pseudoscience of Conversion Therapy 16:00 Impact on Religious Communities 23:02 Conclusion and Personal Reflections To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

    23 min

  8. 08/30/2025

    Religious Trauma Therapist On Identity, Self Sabotage, and Queer Identity After Religion (SC Nealy)

    On this episode of The Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, I sit down with SC Neely—therapist, author of 30+ books, and specialist in religious trauma and queer/trans identity. We explore the real signs of religious trauma, how it overlaps with complex PTSD, and the unique challenges queer people face when deconstructing from high-control religious environments. We cover the roadmap from questioning to deconstruction to rebuilding identity, how trauma shows up in the body, why labels can feel overwhelming, and practical steps for reclaiming identity, sexuality, and community outside of religion. If you’ve ever wondered whether your religious past still affects your identity today, this conversation will give you clarity, compassion, and tools for healing. 00:00 Understanding Religious Trauma 08:28 Navigating Identity After Leaving Religion 29:15 Practical Steps for Rebuilding Life Post-Religion 41:47 Recognizing Self-Sabotage from Religious Trauma 46:47 Dealing with Feeling Behind in Life 51:01 Managing Anger After Leaving Religion 54:54 Exploring Queer Spaces and Identities 01:10:49 The Lifelong Journey of Healing from Trauma To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

    1h 16m
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Exploring the intersection of queer identity and catholicism - sharing stories of those who've left, remained, and created their own journeys; providing commentary on the catholic church's harmful teachings; helping those who've been hurt.

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  • Creator
    Cade Bradley
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    61
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2026 Cade Hanson Media LLC
  • Show Website
    Intrinsically Ordered