Hope you’re staying warm and safe wherever you may be. Iowa lawmakers wrapped up their second week of work on Friday, and a bill banning carbon pipeline constructors from using eminent domain has already passed the house. We dive into the bill as well as the politics on both sides. Dave filled in to host Iowa Press on Iowa PBS this week and majority house leader Mike Klimesh was the guest, so Dave also has a fresh perspective on the republican leadership’s plans. We also discuss how the democrats may vote on an eminent domain bill in the senate. Property tax reform is the other priority for republican legislators this session. It’s a complicated issue, so we try to unravel what may end up being in the plan. We close out the show with a quick preview of President Trump’s scheduled visit to Clive on Tuesday afternoon. Thanks for being a part of the Iowa Down Ballot podcast however you consume the show, we’ll see ya next Saturday morning :) AI generated transcript below: (00:00:01): Hi, everyone, and welcome back to the Iowa Down Ballot podcast. (00:00:05): I am Dave Price, (00:00:06): joined by Kathie Obradovich and Laura Bell and two of my colleagues from the Iowa (00:00:11): Riders Collaborative. (00:00:12): We are joining you on a Friday where even if we squint super, (00:00:17): super hard, (00:00:18): we cannot see a temperature of zero because it is unfairly cold outside. (00:00:25): It’s ridiculous. (00:00:26): I was out, had a meeting this morning and then another errand and my car just went. (00:00:37): I did not want to start. (00:00:40): That is your car’s way of telling you, hey, dummy, go back in the house. (00:00:44): It’s too cold. (00:00:46): Go home and go in and put your slippers on. (00:00:49): I did, (00:00:50): I filled in on Iowa Press today and I wore my winter coat, (00:00:54): which my mother-in-law fixed for me because I had popped a button off. (00:00:58): So they’re in town and she fixed it for me, which was super nice. (00:01:01): As I’m walking from the parking lot out at Iowa Public TV or Iowa PBS now, (00:01:07): I’m walking to the building realizing as I reached into my pockets, (00:01:11): I did not put in my gloves for the winter because I haven’t worn this coat the (00:01:15): whole year. (00:01:16): I was thinking, (00:01:17): You are really dumb. (00:01:18): It’s 10 below zero. (00:01:20): And I have a long walk and carrying all my stuff. (00:01:23): I can’t even put my hands in my pocket. (00:01:24): And I was thinking, man, that is not a good move. (00:01:29): And we’re Iowans. (00:01:30): We should know better. (00:01:32): But we also know that it’s temporary, right? (00:01:35): Like I told my mother-in-law, I mentally prepare for this every year. (00:01:38): Like, (00:01:39): You know, (00:01:39): there’s going to be one butt-kicking, (00:01:43): obnoxiously cold day that you question all of your life’s choices. (00:01:50): And you’re thinking, can I do this from a warm climate just for a little bit? (00:01:54): But then, you know, whatever. (00:01:56): We get through it. (00:01:58): I’m just glad I didn’t have to go up to the Capitol today. (00:02:03): So I’m just glad because that long walk uphill from where I parked. (00:02:08): up to the capitol building it’s freezing and there’s always ice and you’ve got that (00:02:14): howling wind and you’re thinking is this really worth it couldn’t i just watch the (00:02:19): live stream of something happening today why must i be there all right enough of (00:02:24): the weather report um we had so we just wrapped up week two of the iowa legislative (00:02:30): session and there are two biggies that are on my mind and to set the stage i (00:02:35): mentioned (00:02:36): as I was yakking here early that I filled in on Iowa Press, (00:02:40): and this week the guest was the new Senate Majority Leader, (00:02:44): Mike Clemish. (00:02:45): So truthfully, (00:02:46): a few of these topics are right at the top of my mind because I just talked at (00:02:49): length with him. (00:02:50): But I’d like to start this week our chat with where things are with eminent domain (00:02:59): which feels like one of the, sexy is not the right word because we’re talking about politics. (00:03:04): What’s the right word? (00:03:05): Most intriguing, the juiciest, like the parlor intrigue kind of story, the house of cards stuff. (00:03:13): I don’t know what the right thing is. (00:03:14): Yeah, it’s buzzy. (00:03:16): Yeah, Buzzy. (00:03:17): Buzzy. (00:03:18): All right, so Kathie, set the stage for us here. (00:03:20): So we’ve heard some ideas now. (00:03:22): House has actually already passed something remarkably quick. (00:03:27): The Senate Republicans have an idea of what they want to do, particularly Klemish. (00:03:34): And Klemish, (00:03:34): by the way, (00:03:35): said that he’s told us today that he will be the floor manager for eminent domain (00:03:41): on the Senate side. (00:03:42): So he will lead this through. (00:03:43): Maybe a little bit unusual as... (00:03:46): as the majority leader, but he’s going to kind of take the lead. (00:03:49): So kind of set us up here, Kathie, where do things stay? (00:03:52): So I am not clear yet whether the House and Senate have even a conversation about (00:04:00): being on the same page. (00:04:01): So the House moved away from the bill that the governor vetoed last year. (00:04:08): And this this strikes me as being kind of an in your face to her. (00:04:13): It’s like, well, you didn’t like (00:04:15): our sort of complicated look at restricting or dialing back eminent domain. (00:04:21): So we’re just going to give you a flat ban on eminent domain for carbon pipelines. (00:04:30): And that is what they passed. (00:04:31): I mean, already raced through the House and they pass it on the floor this week. (00:04:39): And I sent it to the Senate where it will die. (00:04:43): I’m fairly confident in predicting that. (00:04:45): And as you said, Senator Clemish has actually proposed two bills. (00:04:51): He is the only sponsor of those bills, (00:04:53): at least as of the last time I looked, (00:04:55): and he was not saying how many of his colleagues are willing to vote with him on (00:05:01): these bills, (00:05:03): one of which I think we may have talked about a little bit. (00:05:06): It’s basically a version of an amendment that was offered last year in the Senate (00:05:12): that would let the carbon pipelines, (00:05:14): and we’re talking about summit here at this point, (00:05:17): Summit Carbon Solutions to take the route that the utilities, (00:05:22): Iowa Utilities Commission approved for them and, (00:05:25): you know, (00:05:26): sort of color outside the lines a little bit to try to go around, (00:05:32): you know, (00:05:32): never, (00:05:33): you know, (00:05:33): the the never, (00:05:36): never, (00:05:36): never property owners who are never, (00:05:39): ever going to sign. (00:05:41): no matter how much money they offer. (00:05:43): So to color out the sidelines a little bit and try to go around some of those (00:05:47): property owners and to limit to what extent you have to use eminent domain to force (00:05:53): easements on unwilling property owners. (00:05:55): So that’s the one idea, which he talked about before the legislative session. (00:05:59): The second one, (00:06:00): which is really interesting, (00:06:02): and it’ll be really interesting to see how many of his colleagues support him on (00:06:05): this, (00:06:06): is actually taxing the carbon that is running through this pipeline. (00:06:11): Um, (00:06:12): and, (00:06:13): uh, (00:06:13): so, (00:06:14): um, (00:06:15): so a new tax, (00:06:17): um, (00:06:17): first of all, (00:06:17): um, (00:06:19): something that the summit people, (00:06:20): I can’t imagine that they would want, (00:06:23): um, (00:06:23): this, (00:06:24): uh, (00:06:24): although maybe he’s, (00:06:25): he’s, (00:06:26): um, (00:06:26): framing it as we’ll take this, (00:06:29): you know, (00:06:29): if you want, (00:06:30): if you want any sort of wiggle room on eminent domain, (00:06:32): take this, (00:06:33): I don’t know. (00:06:34): So a tax on carbon. (00:06:37): And so, like I said, neither of these bills have been in subcommittee yet. (00:06:42): We don’t know how many Republicans would actually support this legislation and the (00:06:49): pressure on them from even Republican groups. (00:06:56): in very Republican counties, Republican, you know, are putting pressure on this issue. (00:07:02): So I think it’s, as you said, there’s a lot of intrigue. (00:07:07): There’s a lot of inner party drama here. (00:07:12): That didn’t end last year when 12 senators said, (00:07:16): we’re not voting for budget bills until you deal with this. (00:07:18): So... (00:07:20): Well, (00:07:21): at the press conference where Senator Klemish laid out this plan, (00:07:25): I asked, (00:07:28): do you have 26 votes for this proposal? (00:07:31): And he said he wasn’t going to comment on internal politics of the Senate Republicans. (00:07:37): i think it’s a pretty safe bet that he doesn’t have 26 republican votes for that (00:07:40): because a dozen republicans i think it ended up actually being 13. (00:07:44): there was a dozen who promised not to support any budget bills until there was this (00:07:49): eminent a vote on eminent domain but i think in the end 13 republicans voted for (00:07:54): that house bill last year so i think the senate democrats actually hold a lot of (00:07:59): cards here because (00:08:01): There are quite a few Democrats who support the pipeline in principle because it’s (00:08:06): something that labor unions want, (00:08:09): but they also want to say that they’re protecting property rights. (00:08:13): So I think Klemish may have to make some kind of a deal with (00:08:17): the sen