It's Not What You Think with Celinne Da Costa

Celinne Da Costa

A thought-provoking podcast for the one who's built everything you were told to build — and are now asking the bigger questions about who you really are and the story you're here to live. These aren't polished interviews. Celinne Da Costa dives deep with leaders who have walked through the fire — including Fortune 150 executives, New York Times bestselling authors, and 8-figure entrepreneurs — past the success story and into what it really looks like to stop performing and start living from your soul's truth.

  1. 3D AGO

    God Will Never Forgive You (And Why That's the Best News You'll Hear) with New York Times Bestselling Author Neale Donald Walsch | EP 74

    For 82 years, Neale Donald Walsch has been asking the same question his readers bring to his books: is there more going on here than meets the eye? The New York Times bestselling author of Conversations with God — a book that found 5 million readers after a publisher called it fiction — has distilled a lifetime of spiritual exploration into 21 short letters in his latest work, Letters to a Young Seeker. On paper, Neale has had it all: bestsellers, lectures to thousands, a life-altering dialogue with God. He has also had seven marriages, nine children, and a cardiac condition that means he can no longer drive. He is not his book. He will say that himself. In this conversation, Celinne and Neale explore why most of us have it all wrong about who we are — the difference between ego and soul, why understanding is more powerful than forgiveness, and what shifts when you stop seeking and become the source. Conversations with God is a book Celinne has recommended to every client she has ever worked with, and that history lives in this conversation. ON THIS EPISODE: 09:15 Hear Neale share the origin of Conversations with God -- the dare to a publisher that found 5 million readers 15:45 Discover why Neale says we're not here to learn -- we're here to remember who we already are 24:30 Explore the WHO Meditation: how to ask "who do I choose to be?" in any moment of pressure 31:00 Understand the difference between Be-Do-Have and the backwards way most high-achievers operate 43:00 Learn how to tell the difference between ego and soul -- and why the soul always points toward freedom, joy, and love 59:00 Examine why understanding replaces forgiveness in the mind of the master -- and what that actually means in difficult relationships 01:14:00 Receive the final awareness: stop being a seeker, be the source, and discover how resourceful you already are KEY IDEAS: 🔥 We are not here to learn - we're here to remember. Neale's central reframe: Earth is not a school. It's a contextual field where the soul comes to experience and express what it already knows itself to be. For leaders stuck in relentless acquisition, this is the identity shift that changes everything. 🔥 Ego edges God out. Soul produces freedom, joy, and love. The soul's messages always lead toward expansion, freedom, and love. The ego's always lead toward what you can get - and toward fear. EGO, Neale says, stands for Edging God Out. 🔥 Be-Do-Have - not the other way around. Most leaders operate on Have -> Do -> Be: when I have enough, I can do the thing, then I'll finally be who I want to be. Neale calls this completely backwards. You start by being who you choose to be. The doing and the having follow. That's why we're called human beings, not human doings. 🔥 Understanding replaces forgiveness in the mind of the master. You don't have to forgive anyone. You don't have to approve or condone. You just have to understand how they could have done what they did - because you've done something similar. Neale watched a woman release thirty years of resentment toward her mother in one sentence using this principle, and has never gone back to the forgiveness framework. RESOURCES: Neale Donald Walsch is the author of over 40 books on contemporary spirituality, including his latest Letters to a Young Seeker: Departing Thoughts from an Elder. He is best known as the New York Times bestselling author of the internationally acclaimed Conversations with God series, translated into 37 languages.  Website | Youtube | Facebook | Letters to a Young Seeker | Conversations With God Celinne Da Costa is a podcast host, author, and coach for leaders navigating 'I've made it—now what?' She guides them to redesign their next act: more meaningful, more aligned, more fun... and led by their soul's truth.   Website | LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Facebook 💡 Ready to come home to yourself and lead from there? The Burning Ground - Celinne's debut book on what happens when the life you built stops being enough. The Burning Ground: One Woman’s Journey to Reclaim Her Soul and Ignite Her Inner Fire — Celinne's memoir about walking away from corporate New York at 25 and couchsurfing across 18 countries through 70 strangers' homes — launches May 26, 2026. Pre-order Here now and receive over $200 in exclusive bonuses delivered directly to your inbox.

    1h 13m
  2. APR 30

    Surrender Is The Real Work: What Happens When Your Soul Asks You to Let Go | EP 73

    Real surrender isn't the Instagram version with flowy dresses and ethereal vibes—it's mascara running down your face asking God "why." I recorded this episode almost a year ago, in 2025—freshly back from sabbatical, in the middle of the most heart opening, beautiful sadness uncoupling of my life—and deliberately held it back to metabolize. Until now. Because someone needs to hear this from the messy middle, not just the integrated other side. If you're gripping what you know you need to release, this is for you. ON THIS EPISODE: 00:03 Explore the crossroads question that changes everything 05:43 Understand why life brings us decision points that test our faith 11:56 Learn the difference between soul pulling forward and brain holding back 18:09 Discover why we grip instead of trust (and the illusion of control) 27:24 Witness the vulnerable story of walking away from love for soul alignment 34:54 Recognize what surrender actually looks like beyond the Instagram version 52:19 Learn the anatomy of true surrender—active, not passive 01:02:55 Apply practical guidance for where you're gripping and what becomes possible KEY IDEAS: 🔥 Crossroads aren't punishment—they're initiation: Life repeatedly brings us to decision points that aren't random. They're invitations to remember who we truly are, to cross from our past self to our new self. You can choose to cross with grace or get dragged across kicking and screaming. 🔥 The cost of staying is higher than the fear of letting go: The year I resisted my soul's calling cost me my health (Lyme disease reactivated from emotional stress), my energy, my joy, and twelve months I'll never get back. Two months back in business generated more revenue than the first ten months of last year. 🔥 Surrender is active, not passive: It's not giving up—it's giving in. It's choosing to trust when your mind cannot comprehend why. The woman on her knees with mascara running down her face isn't weak. She's choosing faith over fear.Faith is what you have when nothing makes sense: It's not "this makes sense, I'll have faith." It's "God, this makes no sense. I have to have faith anyway." You don't get the evidence until after you've already jumped. 🔥 Faith is what you have when nothing makes sense: It's not "this makes sense, I'll have faith." It's "God, this makes no sense. I have to have faith anyway." You don't get the evidence until after you've already jumped. RESOURCES: Celinne Da Costa is a podcast host, author, and coach for leaders navigating 'I've made it—now what?' She guides them to redesign their next act: more meaningful, more aligned, more fun... and led by their soul's truth.   Website | LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Facebook MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: 💡The Art of Articulation — a free masterclass on closing the gap between what you know and what comes out when you speak. 💡 p.s. If you're ready to stop sitting on the riverbank and actually cross, Living From Soul® is where that work happens. It's for leaders who are done gripping and ready to trust what's on the other side. 💡 The Burning Ground: One Woman’s Journey to Reclaim Her Soul and Ignite Her Inner Fire — Celinne's memoir about walking away from corporate New York at 25 and couchsurfing across 18 countries through 70 strangers' homes — launches May 26, 2026. Pre-order Here now and receive over $200 in exclusive bonuses delivered directly to your inbox.

    1h 31m
  3. APR 16

    How to Stop Attracting the Wrong Relationships with DharmaRaj | EP 72

    In 2021, Celinne experienced a rock bottom — a breakup coupled by physical illness, suppressed anger, flesh-eating bacteria. It was the moment she realized she was the common denominator of her relationships issues, so she stopped dating for two years and started excavating. This episode is the full story: five relationship chapters, each a mirror for what still needed healing, told for the first time in this depth — with master tantra teacher and healer Dharmaraj interviewing her. In this conversation, you'll hear how the armor of independence quietly blocks love, what Celinne found when she traced her wounds back through her masculine and feminine lineage, and why becoming the right partner matters far more than finding one. ON THIS EPISODE: 00:00 Meet Dharmaraj — tantra teacher, holistic healer, and one of Celinne's closest witnesses to her journey 05:37 Discover why Celinne is sharing this story out loud — and who it's really for 10:16 Explore Chapter 1 — Mr. A: checking all the boxes, the seduction of being chosen, and the cost of loving someone for what they reflect back about you 14:17 Witness the rock bottom: physical illness, suppressed anger, and the moment she realized she was the common denominator 22:44 Learn what the two-year men's sabbatical actually involved — the tantra path, Alison Armstrong's work, and what really changed 37:51 Understand "laying down the sword" — why women's empowerment and men's disempowerment are not the same agenda 41:41 Hear the hypnosis session that changed everything: forgiving her male lineage and meeting Mr. J three days later 52:20 Explore Chapter 5 — Mr. N: ease, full love, a reset blueprint, and why they're consciously uncoupling 1:07:07 Discover what Celinne now tells clients: become the right woman — the list she gave to God, and the one she kept KEY IDEAS: 🔥The independence armor has a price. Building a successful career and saying "I don't need anyone" was Celinne's way of staying safe after early wounds. It worked — until she realized she wasn't just protecting herself from pain. She was blocking love entirely, and attracting relationships that reinforced the story she'd been running since childhood. 🔥 Every relationship is an exact mirror. You don't attract the partner you want. You attract the partner that matches where you actually are. The work is internal — no amount of better dating strategy changes what you're energetically broadcasting. 🔥 Laying down the sword is a skill, not a capitulation. Dharmaraj draws a clear line: women's empowerment and men's disempowerment are not the same agenda. Understanding how men actually think, communicate, and function — and meeting them there — isn't softness. It's intelligence. 🔥 You can enter with love and exit with love. The measure of how much you've healed isn't how long a relationship lasts. It's whether you can end it without a villain story — and walk away with the other person still in your corner. RESOURCES: Dharmaraj is a tantra teacher, holistic healer, and transformational coach who supports people through healing, sacred sexuality, and transformational work across the world. Tantra Transformation Retreat | Tantra Teacher Training | Instagram | Facebook Celinne Da Costa is a podcast host, author, and coach for leaders navigating 'I've made it—now what?' She guides them to redesign their next act: more meaningful, more aligned, more fun... and led by their soul's truth.   Website | LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Facebook 💡The Burning Ground: One Woman’s Journey to Reclaim Her Soul and Ignite Her Inner Fire — Celinne's memoir about walking away from corporate New York at 25 and couchsurfing across 18 countries through 70 strangers' homes — launches May 26, 2026. Pre-order Here now and receive over $200 in exclusive bonuses delivered directly to your inbox.

    1h 19m
  4. APR 2

    Stop Manifesting Peanuts: How to Receive What Life Actually Has In Store for You with Bestselling Author Kute Blackson | EP 71

    Kute Blackson has spent 20 years teaching surrender to billionaires, CEOs, and peak performers. And his central claim is one most high-achievers resist: the reason you're not receiving what you want is because you're holding it too tightly. This conversation is also the story of how Celinne and Kute's paths crossed a decade before they ever spoke — and why that serendipity is proof of exactly what they're discussing. In this conversation, Kute and Celinne explore what it actually means to surrender when you have payroll to make, goals to hit, and an entire identity built on making things happen. You'll hear how to tell the difference between following your soul and following your conditioning, why truth-telling is the first step of transformation (no action required), and what becomes available when you stop manifesting peanuts and make room for the peanut farm. ON THIS EPISODE: 00:00 Discover the serendipitous decade-long story behind how this conversation came to be 05:15 Explore what true surrender actually means — and why high-achievers have it completely wrong 14:30 Understand the difference between surrendering to your soul vs. surrendering to your conditioning 22:00 Learn what all great leaders — from Mandela to Elon Musk — have in common when it comes to surrender 35:00 Identify what to do on Tuesday afternoon when you have payroll to make and no idea how to let go 41:30 Unpack how the ego forms, why it mistakes identity for safety, and why it deserves love — not force 57:00 Witness how following intuitive guidance that makes no sense leads to the life that makes everything make sense 01:16:00 Receive Kute's closing message for anyone standing at a threshold right now, hearing the call but unsure how to trust it KEY IDEAS: 🔥 Surrender is active, not passive. Most high-achievers resist surrender because they've been taught it means giving up. Kute reframes it entirely: surrender is the courage to follow your soul's deepest truth even when it makes no sense to your ego — writing the book you don't feel like writing, having the hard conversation you've been avoiding, going to Brazil when every logical reason says don't. 🔥 You're already surrendering — the question is to what. You are not choosing between surrender and control. You are choosing what to surrender to: your fear, your conditioning, and your ego's small version of your life — or something greater. When you see it this way, the "I can't surrender" argument collapses. 🔥 Stop manifesting peanuts. Ego-based manifestation keeps you clinging to a specific outcome, a specific person, a specific path. You hold it so tightly you become unavailable to what life is actually trying to bring you. Soul-aligned creation requires pursuing the goal with full commitment — and zero attachment to how it arrives. 🔥 Truth before action. If you don't know where to start, start with honesty. You don't have to quit, break up, or burn anything down. Just tell yourself the truth about what you feel. That single act begins a process that life will meet you in — and it will take you to the next step when you're ready. RESOURCES: Kute Blackson is a transformational teacher, speaker, and national bestselling author whose work on surrender and inner freedom has reached leaders, CEOs, and seekers across the globe.   Website | Instagram  | The Magic of Surrender | 8 Levels of Gratitude  💡Kute's upcoming event: Boundless Bliss Bali — a 12-day immersive breakthrough experience running June 26–July 7, 2026 (final year). Celinne Da Costa is a podcast host, author, and coach for leaders navigating 'I've made it—now what?' She guides them to redesign their next act: more meaningful, more aligned, more fun... and led by their soul's truth.   Website | LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Facebook 💡The Burning Ground: One Woman’s Journey to Reclaim Her Soul and Ignite Her Inner Fire — Celinne's memoir about walking away from corporate New York at 25 and couchsurfing across 18 countries through 70 strangers' homes — launches May 26, 2026. Pre-order Here now and receive over $200 in exclusive bonuses delivered directly to your inbox.

    1h 26m
  5. MAR 19

    The 1% Woman: How Sara D Morell and Her Team Raised $100M | EP 70

    She was married in a Parisian château, escorted through the Louvre in her wedding dress — and felt like death inside. Five years ago, Sara D Morell was a single mom on food stamps. Today Sara and her Sanctuary Project team have raised over $100 million and are building an eco-luxury, self-sustaining mini city outside Austin. What took her from there to here wasn't what she expected to talk about — until now. In this conversation, Celinne and Sara go into the parts that never make the stage: 16 custody hearings, hair falling out, crying on the laundry room floor while still building, and the moment on food stamps when a voice told her she would teach people to build wealth. Sara dismantles ego-driven manifestation, offers a radical reframe on co-creation, and speaks directly to every woman who has wondered why the outer success still feels hollow. You'll hear how Sara built her discernment muscle to trust the voice that has guided every major move — and why the real secret to everything she's built is this: trust, and go bigger. ON THIS EPISODE: 00:00 The version of Sara's story that never makes it on stage 05:12 Why manifesting from ego gets you a "Miserati" — and what co-creation looks like instead 13:34 How Sara holds grace, shame, and survival terror while still building 19:59 From homeless child to dancing at 17 to channeling a city: the burning ground that forged her 28:25 How to discern the voice of God from your own fear — and build the antenna that tells the difference 40:42 The Paris château wedding where she felt like death inside 49:03 The moment on food stamps when God gave her the ark 51:52 The real data on women and funding (only 1% of VC — and women generate more than double the return) 56:02 Why building community into the architecture of a city is the future KEY IDEAS: 🔥 Co-creation, not manifestation: The Law of Attraction taken literally can create shame — "did I attract this bad thing?" Sara's reframe: you don't manifest from your small self, you co-create with the divine's will. That's what takes you from wanting seven Airbnbs to building a city with the address 1111 bought for $11.11 million. 🔥 You build the antenna before you need it: Discernment isn't a gift — it's a practice. Stillness, silence, solitude every day. No junk media. Barefoot in the woods. The clearer your vessel, the clearer the signal. Start with small asks, build rapport with the voice, keep a miracle journal of every impossible thing that already happened. 🔥 The real cost of building at scale: Sara's story isn't rags to riches — it's 16 custody hearings, hair loss, crying on the laundry room floor, and getting back on the investor call. Grace, not perfection, is how you hold it all. And purpose — the single moms on her team who need her to succeed — is what gets her through the terror. 🔥 Women are the better investment, and the data proves it: Women-founded companies receive just 1% of US venture capital. They generate $0.78 revenue per dollar invested vs. $0.31 for men-founded companies. The funding gap isn't just unjust — it's a genuinely bad investment strategy. RESOURCES: Sara D. Morell is a speaker who has shared the stage before audiences of up to 1 million people in person at one time. She is the founder of Sanctuary, a 137-acre eco-luxury, self-sustaining development that has raised more than $100 million. She is also the founder of Orah HöS Family Clubs, known as the Soho House for families, a founding partner of DealmakeHERS. Instagram | Orah Wellness | Miracle Cottage  💡 Ready to stop speaking from your head and start speaking from your heart? Join The Art of Articulation — the free masterclass that teaches you how to communicate in a way that moves people and reflects who you actually are. Watch Here. Celinne Da Costa is a podcast host, author, and coach for leaders navigating 'I've made it—now what?' She guides them to redesign their next act: more meaningful, more aligned, more fun... and led by their soul's truth.  Website | LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Facebook 💡 Sara didn't build what she built by performing or proving. She built it by learning to speak from her truth. If you're ready to stop managing how you come across and start communicating from who you actually are — Articulate is the live coaching program where that work happens. Learn More

    1h 18m
  6. MAR 5

    50 Companies and a Path to $1 Billion — What Made Him Walk Away and Choose His Soul, with New York Times Bestselling Author David Osborn | Ep 69

    What happens when you've exceeded every goal you've set — and the voice in the mirror calls you a fraud? David Osborn built one of the largest real estate brokerages in the U.S., authored New York Times bestselling books, co-founded GoBundance, and launched over 50 companies. By any external measure, he had won. But at 50, after surpassing his own wealth goals, he realized he'd spent decades in the kingdom of the head — sacrificing feeling, depth, and presence for discipline, accumulation, and control. What followed was a multi-year journey from the surface back to his own heart. In this conversation, Celinne and David explore the childhood compression that forges driven entrepreneurs, the "blooms" that show up in adulthood from that pressure, and what it actually looks like to stop being a human doing and start becoming a human being. ON THIS EPISODE: 00:00 Explore what it costs to build something extraordinary — and what gets cut off along the way 02:25 Hear David's "hypocrisy bell" moment — looking in the mirror and hearing "you're a fraud" 07:30 Discover the little knocks, the medium knocks, and the rocks that force us to listen 12:35 Unpack childhood as the "bud" — how parental compression shapes every bloom of adulthood 19:17 Learn why our greatest gifts and deepest shadows are two sides of the same coin 27:07 Witness the club metaphor — the moment David realized he'd been living on autopilot for a decade 42:36 Feel the shift from wakesurfing on the surface to scuba diving into the soul 51:51 Understand how David makes decisions differently now — from ego to presence 01:05:09 Hear why being a full human being is more rewarding than any amount of success KEY IDEAS: 🔥 The hypocrisy bell is a gift, not a threat. David set a financial goal in his twenties and blew past it — but kept going for wealth. The moment he recognized the betrayal of his own promise was the crack that opened everything. Most leaders ignore that voice. The ones who listen change their lives. 🔥 Childhood compression shapes every bloom. Our earliest wounds become the engine of our ambition — people-pleasing, rebellion, the drive for freedom. You can't criticize the bloom without understanding the bud. The work is seeing which patterns still serve you and which ones are running the show. 🔥 The inner landscape is as vast as any empire. David describes the shift from building businesses to building emotional maturity as going from wakesurfing behind a boat to scuba diving into the depths of his soul. Each unlock floods the body with a sense of homecoming no financial milestone ever delivered. 🔥 Human being, not human doing. The full range of being human — presence, feeling, depth, genuine connection — doesn't come from more achievement. It comes from slowing down enough to actually be in the moment you're living. That's the deepest form of leadership. RESOURCES: David Osborn is an Austin-based entrepreneur, New York Times bestselling author of Wealth Can't Wait, and co-founder of GoBundance — a community for high-achieving entrepreneurs pursuing wealth, health, and deep personal growth. He is one of the largest real estate investors in the United-States and runs the largest Keller-Williams franchise in the world.  Website | Twitter | Tribe of Millionaires | Instagram | Facebook Celinne Da Costa is a podcast host, author, and coach for leaders navigating 'I've made it—now what?' She guides them to redesign their next act: more meaningful, more aligned, more fun... and led by their soul's truth.  Website | LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Facebook 💡 Soul Alignment Meditation — a free daily practice to come home to your center and lead from presence. 💡This conversation — the cost of building, the courage to stop, the journey back to yourself — is exactly what Celinne writes about in her book The Burning Ground. It's a spiritual memoir about walking away from corporate life at 25 and couchsurfing across 18 countries, dismantling the self she was told to be so the truth beneath could emerge. The book comes out May 26th → Pre-order Here.

    1h 14m
  7. FEB 19

    She Doubled Her Rates by Trusting Her Gut | A Case Study with Marie Poza | Ep 68

    Marie Poza had a thriving wellness practice, a full calendar, and the respect of her community. What no one saw was the exhaustion underneath — the white-knuckling, the people-pleasing, the inability to say no. For years, she believed that working harder was the only path to creating more. One first session cracked that open. Through the Story Clarity Intensive, Marie began to see that her overdoing nature wasn't strength — it was a childhood survival pattern. What followed was a four-year journey of unraveling: doubling her rates (and watching most clients stay and rise with her), building a team, launching a signature program and wellness app, and transforming her marriage. In this conversation, Celinne and Marie explore what happens when a successful entrepreneur stops thinking her way through life and starts feeling her way through. You'll hear how Marie went from burnt-out people-pleaser to intuition-led leader. And why she and her husband just sold their house to move their family to Spain. ON THIS EPISODE: 00:00 Meet Marie Poza and why this case study had to be re-recorded — too much had changed 08:16 Hear Marie describe the moment she found Celinne — washing dishes, exhausted, and knowing there had to be a better way 11:47 Discover how the Story Clarity Intensive revealed a childhood pattern of overdoing and people-pleasing 20:36 Learn how trusting intuition over strategy led Marie to double her rates — and what happened next 27:23 Witness how Marie launched her Unstoppable program with zero paid advertising by following her inner knowing 34:53 Explore the belief that boundaries mean being unkind — and the radical reframe that changed everything 44:17 Hear the story of selling their house, living in an Airbnb, and preparing to move the family to Spain 48:09 Understand the practice of sitting in discomfort instead of rushing to fix — and why it creates capacity for more KEY IDEAS: 🔥 100 things become 3 when you trust your intuition: Marie discovered that thinking her way through business meant doing a hundred things hoping something would stick. When she started working from intuition, those hundred things distilled into one to three needle movers. And the results were exponential. 🔥 Boundaries are the most loving thing you can do: Marie believed that saying no meant being unkind. Through the work, she discovered that boundaries spoken from the heart don't just protect you — they invite the people around you to rise. Several of her closest friendships deepened after she started speaking her truth with love. 🔥 Sit in it instead of fixing it: The practice of allowing discomfort to move through the body instead of immediately problem-solving was transformative. Marie learned that what her brain interpreted as catastrophe was rarely as scary as it seemed. And that sitting in the discomfort created more capacity for growth, creativity, and inspired action. 🔥 Inner work compounds over time: What started as a one-year coaching engagement has continued to deepen over four years. Marie's transformation didn't peak and plateau — it kept unfolding into her marriage, her friendships, her parenting, her business model, and ultimately her family's decision to relocate to Spain. RESOURCES: Marie Poza is a women's wellness practitioner and functional health expert with 15+ years of experience, specializing in epigenetics and hormonal balance for high-level leaders. She's the creator of the Unstoppable program and the Joie wellness app. Website | Instagram | Linkedin Celinne Da Costa is a podcast host, author, and coach for leaders navigating 'I've made it—now what?' She guides them to redesign their next act: more meaningful, more aligned, more fun... and led by their soul's truth.  Website | LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Facebook 💡 When you stop performing and start communicating from truth, everything shifts — your rates, your relationships, your leadership. The Art of Articulation is Celinne's free masterclass on heart-led, embodied communication. It's where this work begins. Get Access Here. Marie doubled her rates, deepened her marriage, and transformed her friendships. All because she learned to speak from her heart instead of her head. 💡 Ready for this work? Articulate is my live group program for leaders who are done performing, pleasing, diluting, or disappearing in the moments that matter most. You clear what’s been blocking your voice so you can finally speak truth from power in any context. Learn more.

    1h 8m
  8. FEB 5

    Stop Talking More. Lead From Your Heart Instead | Ep 67

    You've mastered the skills. The frameworks. The presence in the room. But there's a gap between what you know and what lands—between the words you choose and the connection you're actually creating. Most leaders think they have a communication problem. What they actually have is a presence problem. After over a decade teaching communication, Celinne couldn't speak from her heart without crying. That contradiction revealed something most won't admit: there's a difference between performing connection and experiencing it. In this episode, Celinne shares why connection isn't created through time but through presence, how to recognize when you're speaking from strategy instead of soul, and what actually has to shift for people to hear you. You'll learn the framework that closes the gap between your inner truth and your external expression—so the impact you're creating finally matches the leader you've become. ON THIS EPISODE: 00:00 Explore why we're all talking but nobody's really listening 04:55 Discover how presence beats time in creating deep connection 08:11 Learn the difference between speaking and actual communication 14:30 Witness the moment Celinne spoke from her heart for the first time 27:42 Understand the three factors eroding our capacity for dialogue 42:16 Practice the shift from head-based strategy to heart-led expression 58:34 Reflect on what heart-led communication could change in your life 01:06:42 Recognize the power your authentic expression has on the world KEY IDEAS: ✨ Presence creates connection, not time: You can know someone for years and still feel like strangers. Deep connection comes from moments of genuine presence—not hours clocked together. ✨ Speaking isn't communicating: Communication is a bridge from your internal experience to external reality. Most people speak from their heads (logic, strategy, protection) instead of their hearts (truth, vulnerability, authenticity). ✨ Heart-led communication transforms everything: When you speak from your soul—when you translate your inner truth without distortion—you create intimacy, inspire others, and lead from a place that actually moves people. It's the difference between performing connection and experiencing it. Celinne Da Costa is a podcast host, author, and coach for leaders navigating 'I've made it—now what?' She guides them to redesign their next act: more meaningful, more aligned, more fun... and led by their soul's truth.  Website | LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Facebook Two Ways to Go Deeper: 💡 If this episode landed and you're ready to close the gap between what you know and what comes out when you speak, join me for The Art of Articulation—a free masterclass where I teach the foundations of soul-led communication. This is the starting point for understanding why your voice gets blocked and what opens the channel. Get Access Here 💡 If you know your work this year is to stop leaking your power in the exact rooms you were born to speak in... Articulate is where we do this. It’s my live group program for leaders who are done performing, pleasing, diluting, or disappearing in the moments that matter most, and ready to speak truth... especially when the stakes are highest. What I’m describing in this post — creating a stable identity that can hold power, money, and intensity without losing yourself, clearing the distortion so your story can be told clean — this is the work. We clear your story so you can speak FROM it, not around it. We train your body to stay regulated when the stakes get high. And we practice transmission in real-time with a small cohort of leaders doing this work alongside you. If you’ve been trying to step into more power and keep hitting an invisible wall — it’s not discipline you’re missing. It’s that the container isn’t strong enough yet. We build that together. Apply Here.

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A thought-provoking podcast for the one who's built everything you were told to build — and are now asking the bigger questions about who you really are and the story you're here to live. These aren't polished interviews. Celinne Da Costa dives deep with leaders who have walked through the fire — including Fortune 150 executives, New York Times bestselling authors, and 8-figure entrepreneurs — past the success story and into what it really looks like to stop performing and start living from your soul's truth.

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