Just Now Possible

Teresa Torres

How AI products come to life—straight from the builders themselves. In each episode, we dive deep into how teams spotted a customer problem, experimented with AI, prototyped solutions, and shipped real features. We dig into everything from workflows and agents to RAG and evaluation strategies, and explore how their products keep evolving. If you’re building with AI, these are the stories for you.

  1. Automating the Full Customer Support Iceberg: How Gradient Labs Built a Multi-Agent Platform

    12/18/2025

    Automating the Full Customer Support Iceberg: How Gradient Labs Built a Multi-Agent Platform

    What happens when a customer reports a stolen credit card? The frontline answer is simple—freeze it. But underneath lies a cascade of follow-ups: dispute filings, fraud investigations, merchant communications, and proactive outreach to gather more details. Most AI support tools handle only the tip of the iceberg. In this episode, Teresa Torres talks with Jack Taylor (Product Engineer) and Ibrahim Faruqi (AI Engineer) from Gradient Labs, an AI-native startup building agents that automate the full scope of customer support in fintech. They share how they've architected a platform with three coordinating agents—inbound, back office, and outbound—all built on a shared foundation of natural language procedures, modular skills, and configurable guardrails. You'll hear how they: - Let non-technical subject matter experts define agent behavior through natural language procedures—no coding required - Architected a state machine orchestrator that manages turns, triggers, and skill selection across long-running conversations - Built guardrails as binary classifiers with eval pipelines, tuning for high recall on critical regulatory checks - Designed an auto-eval system that samples conversations for human review to catch edge cases and build labeled datasets It's a detailed look at how one startup is moving beyond simple Q&A bots to agents that can actually take action, coordinate across workflows, and handle the messy reality of customer support.

    1h 1m
  2. From Prototype to Production: How Perk Built a Voice AI Agent That Makes 10,000 Calls a Week

    12/04/2025

    From Prototype to Production: How Perk Built a Voice AI Agent That Makes 10,000 Calls a Week

    What happens when you combine a real customer problem, a no-code prototype, and a team willing to listen to every single call? In this episode of _Just Now Possible_, Teresa Torres talks with Steven Payne (Product Manager), Gabriel Stock (Senior Engineering Manager), and Philipe Steiff (Senior Software Engineer) from Perk—a company that helps businesses eliminate "shadow work" like travel booking and expense management. They share how they built a voice AI agent that calls hotels to verify virtual credit card payments, preventing travelers from arriving to find their rooms unpaid. What started as a hackathon experiment in Make.com became a production system handling over 10,000 calls per week across multiple languages. Along the way, the team learned hard lessons about prompt engineering for voice (numbers, pronunciation, and a very "Karen-like" first version), how to break a single monolithic prompt into structured conversation stages, and why listening to actual calls beats any amount of theorizing. You'll hear how they: - Built a working prototype without writing a single line of backend code - Structured the call into discrete stages (IVR, booking confirmation, payment) to improve reliability - Created two eval systems: one for call success classification, another for conversational behavior - Scaled from five calls a day to tens of thousands per week while maintaining quality This is a detailed look at building AI for real-time human interaction—where the stakes are high and the feedback is immediate.

    55 min

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How AI products come to life—straight from the builders themselves. In each episode, we dive deep into how teams spotted a customer problem, experimented with AI, prototyped solutions, and shipped real features. We dig into everything from workflows and agents to RAG and evaluation strategies, and explore how their products keep evolving. If you’re building with AI, these are the stories for you.

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