LEAD Pods

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LEAD Pods are the official USMB podcast devoted to leadership development and spiritual growth for Mennonite Brethren churches.

  1. 17H AGO

    Why Leadership Development Is So Hard—And What to Do About It (Andy Owen and Kyle Goings)

    Andy Owen and Kyle Goings return to LEAD Pods for a timely and energizing conversation about one of the church's most urgent challenges: developing the next generation of leaders before a looming leadership crisis arrives. Andy serves as executive pastor at Ridgepoint Church in Wichita, Kansas, bringing over 20 years of international ministry experience from Thailand to his work of equipping leaders today. Kyle serves as next gen pastor at Ridgepoint and director of USMB Next Gen, where he focuses on calling and developing young leaders across the denomination. The conversation tackles why leadership development feels so hard even when everyone agrees it matters, and what the data actually says about where the church is headed. Kyle unpacks striking statistics from Barna showing that more Protestant ministry leaders are now over 65 than under 40, with one in four pastors expected to retire by 2030. He also shares encouraging signs from Gen Z, a generation showing increased spiritual hunger not seen since the Jesus Revolution of the early seventies. Andy offers a personal story about turning 50 and discovering a passage in Numbers 8 that reframed his entire approach to ministry, shifting his focus from doing the work to equipping others to do it. Together they offer practical steps any church leader can take, and Kyle makes a strong case that every church can and should have a summer intern, pointing listeners to leaderpipeline.net for free resources. This episode is a candid and hopeful call for leaders to stop waiting for the next generation to be ready and start doing the work of developing them now.

    42 min

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LEAD Pods are the official USMB podcast devoted to leadership development and spiritual growth for Mennonite Brethren churches.

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