Leaving CrazyTown

Dr. Sarah Michaud and Finn Allen

Welcome to Leaving CrazyTown, a Podcast and YouTube channel by Dr. Sarah Michaud and Finn Allen. They help navigate life's ups and downs, including codependency. With personal experiences and mental health expertise, they offer insights and strategies to overcome challenges and lead fulfilling lives. Episodes cover anxiety, depression, relationships, and self-improvement. This podcast is for anyone seeking guidance to improve mental health and well-being. Join Leaving CrazyTown and start your journey to a happier, healthier life.

  1. 12H AGO

    From Six Pregnancy Losses to 18 Years Sober: The Grief Nobody Talks About

    Do you drink to numb pain you can't name? Nicole Cameron endured six pregnancy losses while her alcoholism spiraled—each miscarriage deepening her denial, her isolation, and her belief that something was fundamentally wrong with her. Her husband begged her to get help. Adoption agencies turned her away. And still, she couldn't stop drinking. Until one phone call changed everything. Now 18 years sober, Nicole is an embodiment coach helping women heal trauma they've been carrying in their bodies for decades. In this raw, unfiltered conversation, she and Sarah talk about what happens when grief gets compounded by addiction, why women fall through the cracks, how her marriage survived, and what it actually takes to feel your feelings without medicating them away. Key Takeaways Compounded grief accelerates: Each unprocessed loss makes the next one harder to bear—and easier to medicateYour body keeps the score: Trauma from pregnancy loss, abandonment, and addiction doesn't go away until you give it voice and movementThe sixth miscarriage without drinking: Nicole's first sober pregnancy loss became a turning point—painful, but freeShame lives in silence: Women with children feel guilty, women without feel judged, and nobody talks about miscarriage openly enoughEmbodiment is healing: Moving meditation and somatic practices helped Nicole release decades of body-stored traumaGUEST BIO Nicole Cameron is an embodiment life coach and licensed Ish Tara teacher based in Calgary, Canada. With 18 years of sobriety, Nicole specializes in helping women heal from compounded grief, addiction, and trauma by reconnecting to their bodies through movement, breath, and nervous system regulation. After surviving six pregnancy losses and hitting her bottom with alcoholism, Nicole now guides women who feel disconnected, stuck in patterns, or numb to rediscover themselves from the body up. RESOURCES AND LINKS Coach With Nicole: www.coachingwithnicole.ca Follow Nicole on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn: @coachwitnicole NOTABLE QUOTE "I was more full of glee and happiness that I did not drink, that I didn't self-medicate, that I actually felt it all—and it was hard, but there was a lot of freedom in that hardness." — Nicole Cameron CONNECT WITH US Dr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co Crazy Follow @leavingcrazytown on YouTube Website: https://drsarahmichaud.com If you loved this conversation, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with a friend ready to reclaim their voice and leave confusion behind. Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we're leaving CrazyTown. This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not a substitute for professional mental health treatment. If you're struggling, please seek support from a licensed professional.

    46 min
  2. MAR 31

    Why “One Right Way” Can Keep People Stuck in Recovery

    In this Boozeless Book Club episode of Leaving CrazyTown, Amy Liz Harrison and Dr. Sarah Michaud take a deep, thoughtful dive into Many Roads, One Journey: Moving Beyond the 12 Steps by Charlotte Davis Kasl. Together, they explore how rigidity, fear-based recovery messaging, and one-size-fits-all approaches can unintentionally limit healing—especially for women and people with histories of codependency or religious trauma. With honesty, nuance, and compassion, they discuss how to keep what works in traditional recovery models while making room for choice, discernment, and self-trust.Key Takeaways Recovery loses power when it becomes rigid or fear-based One person’s path is not a universal blueprint Women often need self-trust and agency, not further self-reduction Accountability and compassion can coexist Thinking for yourself is not dangerous—it’s necessary Key Timestamps [02:00] Why this book feels “meaty” and challenging [07:00] Rigidity, fear, and belonging in recovery [13:00] Why women’s recovery needs differ [20:00] Kasl’s expanded steps and codependency healing [49:00] “Many roads” and the danger of “only one way” Notable Resources Many Roads, One Journey: Moving Beyond the 12 Steps — Charlotte Davis Kasl Women, Sex & Addiction — Charlotte Davis Kasl Dr. Sarah Michaud — Co-Crazy If this episode resonated, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with someone who needs permission to find their own way. Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

    51 min
  3. MAR 24

    Three Ways Recovery Changed Us — What Changed For You?

    Do you even know who you are anymore? It's Sarah's and Finn's anniversary month — time in recovery — and they're reflecting on three major ways they've changed since the using days. From self-reliance to honesty to actually feeling their feelings, this episode gets real about what shifts when you start doing the work. No perfect recovery stories here — just two people noticing what's different, what's better, and what still needs work. Key Takeaways Self-reliance used to mean controlling everything and everyone — now it means trusting something bigger than yourselfAvoiding feelings isn't the same as managing them — recovery teaches you to sit with discomfort instead of escaping itYou can't have real relationships if nobody actually knows you — honesty and boundaries make connection possibleTaking responsibility doesn't mean blaming yourself for everything — it means owning your actions and choicesRecovery isn't about perfection — it's about catching yourself, repairing, and trying againNotable Quote "I was willing to take responsibility, but I was blind to the truth of what was actually going on." — Finn Connect With Us Dr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co Crazy Follow @leavingcrazytown on YouTube Website: https://drsarahmichaud.com If you loved this conversation, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with a friend ready to reclaim their voice and leave confusion behind. Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we're leaving CrazyTown. *This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not a substitute for professional mental health treatment. If you're struggling, please seek support from a licensed professional.

    11 min
  4. MAR 17

    Sober Sex: Why It’s So Uncomfortable at First (And Why It Gets Better)

    Can you imagine having sex without booze… or does that thought make you want to crawl out of your skin? In this episode, Finn and Dr. Sarah get honest about sober sex — what it looked like in addiction versus what it requires in recovery. From detachment, low standards, and seeking validation to body image fears, rejection anxiety, and learning discernment, they unpack the uncomfortable shift from numb hookups to real intimacy. They explore how addiction blurred choice, how early sobriety brings a flood of insecurity, and why staying in your body is both terrifying and transformative. Because sober sex isn’t about performance — it’s about presence. And presence requires vulnerability. Takeaways In addiction, sex is often about validation, fear, and proving worth — not connectionSober sex brings up body image issues and rejection fears that substances once numbedDiscernment is a recovery skill — you get to choose who you’re intimate with Casual relationships can activate codependent patterns if you ignore your own truth• Real intimacy requires vulnerability, honesty, and embracing discomfortFun and play are possible in sober sex — it doesn’t have to be heavy or performativeNotable ResourcesDr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co CrazyFollow @leavingcrazytown on YouTubeWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.com/ If this conversation resonated, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown — and share it with someone navigating intimacy in recovery. Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery — with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up — we’re leaving CrazyTown.

    16 min
  5. MAR 10

    Faith, Fear, and Freedom: What “Wake Up” Reveals About Recovery

    In this Boozeless Book Club episode, Dr. Sarah Michaud and Amy Liz Harrison dive deep into Wake Up by Jen Hatmaker—a book that challenges rigid belief systems, recovery dogma, and fear-based spirituality. Together, they unpack what happens when programs meant to heal start replacing one form of control with another, especially for women navigating sobriety, faith, and codependency. This is an honest, nuanced conversation about reclaiming discernment, self-trust, and emotional freedom—without throwing out what truly works. Key Takeaways Rigid recovery rules often mirror the same power dynamics we’re trying to heal from Women in recovery frequently need self-trust—not ego reduction Fear-based spirituality undermines emotional sobriety Both accountability and personal agency can coexist Thinking for yourself is not a relapse—it’s growth Key Timestamps [02:10] Why this book felt “meaty” and activating [07:45] Trading one dogma for another in recovery [14:30] Fear-based faith, shame, and loss of self [22:10] When “look at your part” becomes self-blame [30:40] Holding nuance without burning bridges Notable Resources Wake Up — Jen Hatmaker Dr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co Crazy https://drsarahmichaud.com/ If this episode stirred something in you, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with someone learning to trust themselves again. Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

    51 min
  6. MAR 3

    The Truth About Love vs Codependency in Relationships

    Is it love… or is it codependency dressed up as romance? In this Valentine’s Day episode, Finn and Dr. Sarah break down the real differences between healthy love and codependent attachment. Drawing from their own relationships (yes, they’re both in love right now), they unpack the subtle ways we confuse control, people-pleasing, emotional blame, and conflict avoidance with “being loving.” From emotional regulation and over-offering to relentless self-sacrifice and white lies, this episode gives you three clear distinctions between love and codependency—plus the hard truths that deepen intimacy instead of destroying it. Because real love doesn’t require you to disappear.And it definitely doesn’t require you to manage someone else’s emotions. Takeaways Love means regulating your own emotions instead of blaming your partner Codependency often shows up as fixing, over-managing, or forcing help Asking once and trusting the answer builds respect and intimacy Self-sacrifice without boundaries leads to resentment and rage Honest, difficult conversations create deeper connection than conflict avoidance ever will Notable Resources Dr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co CrazyFollow @leavingcrazytown on YouTubeWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.com/ If you loved this conversation, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with a friend ready to reclaim their voice and leave confusion behind. Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

    13 min
  7. FEB 24

    CrazyTown Confessions: The Subtle Manipulation You Didn’t Know Was Codependency

    What does subtle codependency actually look like in real life? In this kickoff episode of CrazyTown Confessions, Finn and Dr. Sarah pull back the curtain on their own sneaky patterns—manipulation disguised as care, irritation masked as concern, and the quiet control tactics that slip in when we’re trying to soothe ourselves. From storm anxiety and “helpful suggestions” to shoulder injuries, insurance battles, and unspoken resentment, this episode shows how codependency often hides in the smallest moments. With humor, humility, and hard-earned insight, Finn and Sarah model what it looks like to catch yourself in the act—and choose something healthier instead. Because recovery isn’t about perfection. It’s about awareness… and doing it differently next time. Takeaways Codependency is often subtle and self-soothing, not dramatic or obvious Manipulation can hide inside “care” and good intentions Irritation is often a sign of unspoken fear or unmet needs Awareness is the first step toward changing behavior Recovery means taking responsibility for your emotional experience—not outsourcing it Notable Resources Dr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co CrazyFollow @leavingcrazytown on YouTubeWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.com/ If you loved this conversation, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with a friend ready to reclaim their voice and leave confusion behind. Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

    9 min
  8. FEB 17

    When Sobriety Isn’t Enough: Patti Clark on Relapse, Loneliness & Coming Home

    Episode Description What happens when you’ve done “everything right” in recovery — and it still isn’t enough? In this deeply honest conversation,  Dr. Sarah sits down with author Patti Clark to explore long-term sobriety, relapse after 13 years, emotional bottoms, motherhood shame, loneliness, and the quiet moments that can pull us back into addiction. Patti shares the raw truth behind her relapse, the power of connection, and why recovery is about becoming whole — not perfect. Takeaways Why relapse often begins long before the drink How loneliness can become an emotional bottom The hidden shame many mothers carry in addiction and recovery Why connection — not discipline — sustains sobriety How creativity and writing can support emotional healing Key Timestamps 01:00 Patti’s recovery origin story and family alcoholism 11:00Loneliness, disconnection, and leaving meetings 13:00Relapsing after 13 years sober 18:00Motherhood, shame, and hidden drinking 24:00Emotional bottoms and forgiveness 37:00Writing The Recovery Road Trip and “now what?” recovery Notable Resources & Guest Links The Recovery Road Trip by Patti Clark Website: https://pattyclark.org TikTok: @recoveringwoman Instagram/Facebook: Patti Clark, Author If this episode resonated, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown — and share it with someone navigating recovery, relapse, or emotional burnout. Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

    45 min
5
out of 5
19 Ratings

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Welcome to Leaving CrazyTown, a Podcast and YouTube channel by Dr. Sarah Michaud and Finn Allen. They help navigate life's ups and downs, including codependency. With personal experiences and mental health expertise, they offer insights and strategies to overcome challenges and lead fulfilling lives. Episodes cover anxiety, depression, relationships, and self-improvement. This podcast is for anyone seeking guidance to improve mental health and well-being. Join Leaving CrazyTown and start your journey to a happier, healthier life.

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