Send us a text Divorce can feel like an ending… but what if it’s actually a portal? In this episode, Emma O’Brien is joined by Isabelle Ulenaers—psychologist, trauma specialist, and best-selling author—who supports women through the emotional aftermath of divorce using a neuroscience-informed blend of psychology, coaching tools, EFT, EMDR, and somatic integration. Together, we explore why the hardest part often isn’t leaving the marriage… it’s everything that follows: the identity collapse, the shame and guilt, the fear of being “the villain,” and the slow realisation that you’ve been abandoning yourself in tiny, socially acceptable ways for years. You’ll also hear powerful re-frames—like why it’s okay to leave a relationship that looks “fine” on paper, and how to begin coming back to yourself through small, grounded choices that rebuild self-trust. In this episode, we cover: - Why divorce isn’t a failure—it can be the beginning of freedom, identity, and self-return - The “good wife / good mother” conditioning that keeps women stuck in roles they’ve outgrown - How self-abandonment happens slowly and subtly—one micro-moment at a time - The difference between guilt (I did something wrong) and shame (I am something wrong) - Why leaving a “fine” marriage can feel harder than leaving an obviously bad one - Isabelle’s Michelin restaurant vs burger and fries analogy (and why it hits so hard) - What women actually need to rebuild after divorce: inner safety, nervous system regulation, and identity repair - Why “What do I want?” can be too big at first—and the better starter question to ask - The practical path back to self: noticing where you feel seen/heard, and where you disappear - How fear works (and why it shows up the moment you change anything) - The “fear witch” / Rapunzel metaphor: how fear keeps you in the tower—and how to move anyway - A potent closing reminder: your needs are non-negotiable A gentle reflection prompt (from the conversation) If “What do I want?” feels too big, try: Do I want to be on this stage? Where do I feel seen, heard, and connected? Where do I abandon myself—and why? Connect with Isabelle: Connect with Isabelle on Instagram—send her a DM and she’ll guide you from there - @isabelle.ulenaers Loved this episode? If this landed for you, take a breath and let this be your permission slip: You’re not “too much.” And you don’t need a dramatic reason to choose yourself. If you’re done playing small and ready to lead yourself — you’re in the right place. I’m Emma O’Brien — Martha Beck trained and certified life coach, HeartMath practitioner, and shamanic healer helping high-achieving women stop second-guessing themselves and finally trust their own voice. Through nervous system re-calibration, strategic coaching, and deep energetic work, I help you move from self-doubt to self-trust so you can create a life you actually want to be in — no external approval required. 🌀 Want to work together? Explore the 6-week Nervous System Reset, 1:1 coaching, or Shamanic Soul Retrieval sessions here: emmaobriencoach.com Questions or ready to chat? DM me on Instagram @emmaobriencoach or book a free connection call HERE.