M.E.S.H.

Dr. Pamela Brewer

Where your Mental, Emotion, and Social Health is always on the agenda!

  1. Reexamining Islam Through a Lens of Inclusion

    4D AGO

    Reexamining Islam Through a Lens of Inclusion

    In this thoughtful and eye-opening conversation, Dr. Pamela Brewer speaks with educator and Muslims for Progressive Values board member Kendra Cordova about gender, identity, and the often-overlooked complexity within Islam. Together, they explore how cultural narratives, historical context, and lived experience intersect—challenging common assumptions while offering a more nuanced understanding of faith and belonging. If you’ve ever felt caught between identity and expectation, this episode offers both clarity and reassurance that you are not alone. 🌟 Topics Covered: Gender diversity within Islamic history and modern practiceMisinterpretations of religious texts and cultural influenceThe role of education in shaping belief systemsNon-binary identity and lived experience within faithNavigating family, community, and personal truthThe importance of questioning and lifelong learningHow organizations support inclusive interpretations of Islam Key takeaways: Identity and faith can coexist, even when it feels complicatedKnowledge creates confidence in navigating difficult conversationsCultural interpretations often shape belief more than original textsSome questions I ask: What does gender diversity actually look like within IslamHow have cultural interpretations shaped what people believe todayHow did your personal identity journey impact your relationshipsWhat do religious texts truly say about gender and sexualityIs there space for people with diverse identities within IslamWhat is the first step for someone questioning their place in faithHow can people begin to explore long-held assumptionsWhere can listeners find supportive communities and information Learn more about our guest: Website: mpvusa.orgYouTube: MPV with KendraBook: Homosexuality and Islam by Scott Siraj al-Haqq KugleOrganization: Muslims for Progressive Values #MentalHealth#SocialHealth#EmotionalWellbeing#IdentityMatters#FaithAndIdentity#InclusiveFaith #SexualDiversity #GenderDiversity#Psychology#SelfDiscovery#HumanExperience#MESHwithDrPamelaBrewer

    19 min
  2. Breaking the Silence: Male Survivors of Sexual Abuse

    APR 1

    Breaking the Silence: Male Survivors of Sexual Abuse

    Episode Summary:In this deeply moving episode of M.E.S.H., host Pamela Brewer speaks with Doriel Jacov, a trauma-informed psychotherapist and former corporate attorney, about the realities and challenges faced by male survivors of sexual abuse. Doriel Jacov shares insights from his clinical work and his men's support group, exploring myths, shame, identity disruption, and the long journey toward healing. Listeners will gain compassionate understanding of the unique obstacles male survivors face, the importance of safe spaces, and how healing is possible even after traumatic childhood experiences. Topics Covered:Prevalence and invisibility of male sexual abuseSocial stigma and secrecy experienced by male survivorsThe necessity and impact of specialized support groups for menEffects of abuse on attachment, relationships, and identityDisclosure dynamics within families and partnershipsChildhood abuse: confusion, self-blame, and socialized silenceThe role of shame, embarrassment, and somatic disconnectionPaths to healing and the power of reparative relationships Key Takeaways:Sexual abuse of boys and men is much more common than many realize, affecting 1 in 6.Secrecy and shame are central challenges preventing male survivors from seeking help.Specialized support groups provide a crucial, safe environment for disclosure and healing.Abuse can disrupt male identity, affecting emotional expression and relationships.Healing is possible, though it requires time, safety, and investment in therapeutic relationships.Naming and acknowledging shame is a powerful step toward freedom and recovery. Best Quotes:"In reality, 1 in 6 boys have had the experience of being sexually abused...men carry around this idea that what happened to them is extremely rare.""Shame is a key threat in being a survivor, and to have other people who can be supportive...it can be profoundly transformative.""Naming the felt shame actually unburdens them, can begin that process of being free of it." Connect with Doriel Jacov:Website: djpsychotherapy.comEmail: doriel@djpsychotherapy.com #MaleSurvivors#SexualAbuseAwareness#TraumaHealing#TherapyMatters#MentalHealth#SupportGroups#EndTheStigma#HealingJourney Tune in weekly to M.E.S.H. for conversations that reveal, support, and connect. Please subscribe, share, and join the ongoing dialogue.

    25 min
  3. When Rock Bottom Becomes a New Beginning

    MAR 25

    When Rock Bottom Becomes a New Beginning

    Episode SummaryIn this compelling episode of M.E.S.H., Pamela Brewer sits down with Jelan Agnew, a licensed clinical social worker turned keynote speaker, coach, and global frolicker. Jelan Agnew opens up about her radical personal transformation after a crisis in 2020, culminating in a rebirth that fundamentally changed her priorities and definition of self. The conversation dives deep into embracing change, separating personal identity from achievement, overcoming generational trauma, and finding joy and creativity as essential parts of humanness. Listeners will walk away with inspiration, practical advice, and resources for their own journey toward personal and professional fulfillment. Topics CoveredDefinition and nature of transformationNavigating major life changes and rock-bottom momentsThe impact of burnout and alcohol addiction on mental health professionalsThe process and aftermath of recovering from a life-threatening crisisReleasing attachment to job titles for genuine self-discoveryAchieving separation between what you do and who you areGenerational trauma and its effects on achievement and self-worthProductivity, self-talk, and worthiness, especially for Black and brown womenCreating a life aligned with creativity and joyAdvice for women facing barriers to transformationHow to start your own transformation without drastic life changesConnecting with Jelan Agnew: social media, TEDx talk, and coaching Key TakeawaysChange is inevitable; choosing to embrace it empowers you, rather than waiting until circumstances force you to adapt.Generational trauma can shape the drive for excessive “productivity” — but finding self-worth apart from achievements is freeing and necessary.You don’t have to quit everything to transform; start with small steps, reconnecting with what you love and how it makes you feel. Six Best Quotes from Jelan Agnew“First you get a little knock on the door, then you get a shake on your shoulders, then you get the rug pulled from under you. The choice is when you choose to change, because change is inevitable.”“The version of me that built that life died in the ICU. I was reborn in the ICU, and the version of me that left didn’t have the same priorities, interests, or idea of success.”“Separating what I do from who I am allowed me to start creating a life from who I am, not what I’m doing.”“Remember yourself. And if you felt anything when I said ‘remember yourself,’ I’m talking to you.” Connect with the GuestWebsite: JelanAgnew.com TEDx Talk: Check for Jelan Agnew's TEDx talk onlineCoaching: Jelan Agnew is accepting coaching clients (DM via Instagram or LinkedIn) Resources ListTEDx Talk: Jelan Agnew's TEDx presentation (search online)NALEG of Self: Jelan Agnew's organization (name, website in process)@nalejofselfContact for coaching: DM Jelan Agnew via Instagram/LinkedIn #Transformation#MentalHealth#GenerationalTrauma#SelfDiscovery#JoyIsHumanness#WomenEmpowerment#Podcast#MeshPodcast#Nalegofself

    21 min
  4. Voluntary Exclusion Program: A Helpful Tool for Problem Gambling

    MAR 18

    Voluntary Exclusion Program: A Helpful Tool for Problem Gambling

    Episode Summary:In this enlightening episode of M.E.S.H., host Pamela Brewer welcomes Heather Eshleman, Director of Operations at the Maryland Center of Excellence on Problem Gambling. Together, they dive into the often-overlooked risks of gambling, explore practical steps for recognizing and managing gambling disorder, and highlight resources available for individuals and families affected by problem gambling. Heather Eshleman discusses the Voluntary Exclusion Program, youth gaming risks, and the role of the Maryland Lottery in proactive gambling prevention. The conversation is packed with actionable advice, powerful anecdotes, and essential information to help listeners make healthy, informed choices about gambling. Topics Covered:Definition and prevalence of problem gamblingWarning signs and consequences of gambling disorderThe Voluntary Exclusion Program (VEP) in MarylandGambling risks among youth and features in video gaming (loot boxes)Resources and tools for blocking gambling apps and sitesSupport for family members of problem gamblers Key Takeaways:Not all gambling is problematic, but setting limits on time and money is crucial.About 5.5% of residents are at risk for developing gambling problems.The Voluntary Exclusion Program is a self-ban tool, covering casinos and sports betting apps.Gambling disorders can affect both youth (through gaming) and adults.Parents and family members have resources to block gambling apps and access support. Best Quotes:“So many people don't realize there are risks to gambling.  You should set limits on time and money when gambling.” – Heather Eshleman“If someone is having problems controlling their gambling behavior, they can ban themselves from different forms of gambling in the state.” – Heather Eshleman“We know that people also have to deal with the underlying causes of why they are gambling out of control.” – Heather Eshleman“There are gambling features within video games that can kind of catch you. You have to be careful with that.” – Heather Eshleman“We do encourage parents to call us... 1-800-GAMBLER helpline operates 24 hours, 7 days a week.” – Heather Eshleman“It's not cost prohibitive to seek problem gambling treatment and the family members too.” – Heather Eshleman Connect with the Guest:Maryland Center of Excellence on Problem Gambling: Website (website not explicitly given, based on organization name)Contact Phone: 667-214-21201-800-GAMBLER helpline (call, text, or chat) Voluntary Exclusion Program (Maryland Lottery): https://www.mdlottery.com (direct link not given, lottery website based on name)Gamban (gambling block software): https://www.gamban.comBetBlocker (free site blocking tool): https://www.betblocker.org1-800-GAMBLER helpline: https://www.1800gambler.netThe Parents Place of Maryland: https://www.ppmd.orgMaryland Lottery Responsible Gaming: https://www.mdlottery.com/responsible-play/Peer Recovery Support Specialists (Maryland Center of Excellence) #ProblemGambling#GamblingAwareness#VoluntaryExclusionProgram#Mdproblemgambling#ResponsibleGaming#MentalHealth#FamilySupport#YouthGaming#MarylandLottery#Meshwithdrpamelabrewer

    21 min
  5. Compassion in Action: Protecting Adults at Risk

    MAR 11

    Compassion in Action: Protecting Adults at Risk

    Welcome to M.E.S.H.! In this episode, host Pamela Brewer sits down with Geoff Rogers, Director of Learning and Development Projects at the Silberman School of Social Work, Hunter College, to Uncover the essential strategies and challenges faced by Adult Protective Services (APS) practitioners. Discover what it takes to serve vulnerable adults, the realities of APS casework, and how engagement, myth, and storytelling impact social work. Whether you’re an aspiring social worker, a seasoned practitioner, or someone curious about social justice and community care, you’ll find deep insights and actionable advice here! Topics Covered:The role of storytelling and myth in helping workers support vulnerable adultsSkill sets and personality traits essential for APS practitioners“Scaffolding” – what it means and why it matters in social servicesSupervising and supporting new APS practitionersPreserving autonomy and dignity for those servedThe scope of APS (who qualifies, misconceptions about age)Resources, guides, and training for practitioners Key Takeaways:Working in APS is demanding, complex, and deeply rewarding—a true calling that requires empathy, respect, and a non-judgmental stance.Central to effective practice is seeing clients as people first and honoring their agency—making them “the hero of their own story.”Adult Protective Services aren’t only for the elderly—in some states, services apply to all adults aged 18 and above.Comprehensive training and accessible resources are available for practitioners, including specialized guides and podcasts.Remembering the humanity of both the practitioner and the client is foundational to meaningful intervention and care. Connect with the Guest:Email: grogers@hunter.cuny.eduProfessional Affiliation: Silberman School of Social Work, Hunter College, New York City Resources Mentioned:Wellness at Work Podcast – Focusing on health and welfare for those serving vulnerable adults (search available platforms, as mentioned in episode)Desk Guides/Frontline Service Guides:Recognizing signs of physical abuseRecognizing signs of financial exploitationNew York State-specific APS practice guide #AdultProtectiveServices#SocialWork#VulnerableAdults#TraumaInformedCare#ElderAbusePrevention#HumanizeSocialWork#WellnessAtWork#MESHpodcast

    18 min
  6. The Real Cost of Silence: Why Deep Listening Matters More Than Ever

    MAR 4

    The Real Cost of Silence: Why Deep Listening Matters More Than Ever

    Topics Covered:The origins and misunderstandings about DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion)The behavioral focus versus identity politics in DEI workLiberatory practice: its meaning, who it serves, and its impact on leadershipThe vital importance of deep listening in healing and workplace transformationEmbracing and honoring multiple identities within groups (Jewish diversity, intersectionality)Creating inclusive environments and measuring true freedom and resilienceProfessional development with a focus on liberatory practice for leaders and organizationsPrograms at Dimensions Consulting and who they serve (women, men, leaders of all backgrounds)The courage to share resources vs. the fear that restricts opportunity Key Takeaways:DEI is about collective humanity, not just categories; it seeks to create conditions where everyone can thrive and exercise choice.Real change happens through listening to personal experiences and being accountable for one’s behavior to improve outcomes for all.Liberatory practice offers a model for freedom and resilience, helping individuals and organizations move beyond survival to truly thriving.Inclusion and equity benefit everyone, but this work requires readiness and honest engagement—not performative participation.Every community holds diversity within it; seeing these dimensions allows for broader, deeper, and more compassionate leadership.Sharing stories and deep listening can lead to healing, increased leadership capacity, and authentic inclusion. Quotes:“If we really want to track and chart the experience of equity, you have to ask people and listen hard for what they're saying they have experienced, and then see yourself as accountable in your behavior to start doing, stop doing, or do something differently…” –Yavilah McCoy“The condition of relationship is already there. What kinds of relationships we want to have bring us into the realm of choice and into the realm of behaviors.” –Yavilah McCoy“When we bring the concept of pain into the equation, often the very first thing that we do is we stop listening... But the truth is, if you want to be in a relationship that holds the elevation of your humanity, we've got to be able to listen for both.” –Yavilah McCoy“Every group of people has diversity. If I were to talk about the dimensions of our humanity, one person would be many things at once.” –Yavilah McCoy“It is my legacy and birthright not just to survive my life, but to thrive in it… to believe that if I never did another thing, that value, that beauty, that essence… remains intact.” –Yavilah McCoy Connect with the Guest:Website: www.dimensionsedc.com Resources List:Dimensions Consulting: www.dimensionsedc.com30 Day Liberatory Practice Challenge (series of videos and resources available on the Dimensions website)One-on-One consults and liberatory practice coaching (inquire via website)Programs for women leaders, women of color, and white women leaders (details at the Dimensions website) For more episodes and inspiring conversations, subscribe to M.E.S.H. wherever you get your podcasts!

    21 min
  7. Unapologetically Black and Jewish: Navigating Race, Faith, and Justice

    FEB 25

    Unapologetically Black and Jewish: Navigating Race, Faith, and Justice

    In this powerful episode of M.E.S.H., host Pamela Brewer welcomes Yavilah McCoy, a leader in equity strategies and organizational consulting, who shares her experience growing up as an unapologetically Black and Jewish woman. The conversation dives deep into racial and religious identity, intersectionality, and the challenges faced by Jews of color. Drawing on personal stories and insights, Yavilah McCoy discusses the importance of liberatory practice, collective care, and embracing the fullness of our identities within and beyond Jewish communities. Topics CoveredThe intersection of racial, religious, and cultural identitiesMyths and assumptions about Jews and Jewish identityWhite supremacy and its impact on Jewish communitiesPersonal stories of growing up Black and Jewish in BrooklynEducational experiences and advocating for inclusionLiberatory practice and resilience in marginalized spacesThe importance of “dimension” and intersectionalityCollective and self-care in activismCreating inclusive communities within and across identities Key TakeawaysRace is a social construct and should not define Jewish identity or humanity.Jews come from diverse backgrounds—racial, geographic, cultural, and economic.Intersectionality is a source of strength, not dilution, and allows one to show up authentically.Liberatory practice and resilience are essential to navigating oppressive systems.Collective care and self-care are vital, especially for Jews of color.Listening to and sharing the full story of our humanity is necessary for true equity.Creating dimension in identity helps avoid the erasure and marginalization caused by binaries.It’s not necessary to always be at the frontlines; activism should be a choice, not an obligation. Best Quotes“Mama Maya Angelou taught us that we often delight in the beauty of the butterfly, but we rarely admit the changes that it has gone through to achieve that beauty.”“If I were to snap my fingers and bring every Jew that exists across the globe into this room with us right now, we would look more like the United Nations than the United Nations itself.”“Race itself is a construction. Race does not describe our humanity in any way that's truly significant, except that race has been a tool of oppression…”“It is only in oppression that we have to live in binaries. If we look at any ism that's out there, you're going to find folks trying to tell you you're either or instead of this plus both and right.”“Just because you are living from a space of an intersectional identity does not mean you have to be the one to pick up the banner and be at the front. Right now, mostly I would say  what's important is self care and collective care.” Resources Listdimensionsedc.com #BlackJewish#Intersectionality#LiberatoryPractice#Equity#CollectiveCare#JewsofColor#CulturalDiversity#MESHpodcast If you want to learn more about the guest or explore resources mentioned, be sure to check out Dimensions Consulting online and share this episode with those seeking thoughtful, inclusive conversations about identity and justice.

    23 min
  8. Bipolar Disorder Myths Debunked: Real Stories of Recovery and Success

    FEB 18

    Bipolar Disorder Myths Debunked: Real Stories of Recovery and Success

    Topics CoveredStigma and myths surrounding bipolar disorder and mental illnessMarcia's experience as a therapist with bipolar disorderDiscrimination and shaming in the mental health professionEffects and management of medication for bipolar disorderPersonal and romantic relationships impacted by mental illnessWhat psychotic and manic episodes look likeAdvice for family and friends supporting someone with a mental illnessGuidance on discontinuing medication safelyResources for further support Quotes“My dream is for people to view people with a mental illness with the same kind of compassion, understanding, and respect that they would show to somebody with a physical illness.” —Marcia Naomi Berger“Once it got out that I had this mental illness, people were nasty, humiliating me. And you would think, why would these professional therapists be so lacking in compassion and understanding?” —Marcia Naomi Berger"I've been off...no medication, no therapy for bipolar disorder for, I don't know, something like 33 years." —Marcia Naomi Berger“You cannot expect someone to be reasonable if they're in a psychotic state. But you can still be compassionate and kind.” —Marcia Naomi Berger Connect with Marcia Naomi BergerWebsite: marriagemeetings.comBooks: "The Bipolar Therapist," "Marriage Meetings for Lasting Love"For book access: Find online, ask at your local bookstore, or check your library Resources ListBooks by Marcia Naomi Berger:The Bipolar TherapistMarriage Meetings for Lasting Love (also referenced at marriagemeetings.com)Mental Health Information:National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI)Local therapists and psychiatrists (recommended for medication changes)Podcast:M.E.S.H. Podcast #MentalHealth#BipolarDisorder#StigmaFree#TherapistsTalk#MESHpodcast#Compassion#RecoveryJourney#MentalHealthAwareness Don't forget to like, subscribe, and share M.E.S.H. to help spread understanding and compassion for mental, emotional, and social health!

    22 min

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