The Make Music Income Podcast

Cre8iv Entertainment

In this weekly podcast, composer, arranger, and producer Eric Copeland of Make Music Income talks about his continuing journey to Make Music Income with Music Licensing, Music Production, Music Publishing, Sheet Music, Artist Income, Online Channel Income, and more. Eric also interviews people from across the spectrum of the music business, specifically asking: "How do you make music income?"

  1. EP167. The Future of this Channel | My Music Income from 2025 | My Focus for 2026

    MAR 30

    EP167. The Future of this Channel | My Music Income from 2025 | My Focus for 2026

    After many, many weeks, months even, I have been trying to sort out my feelings about the direction of this channel - about the existence of this channel. Well, I think I know. JOIN THE GETTING IN SYNC 8-WEEK CLASS!Find out more about the course and how you can join this limited seat class at a special price for the last 6 weeks!https://payhip.com/b/KtoqH Email Eric for a special price! PositiveSpinSongs@gmail.com WORK WITH ME: Work directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland and his sync production company Positive Spin Songs to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming. Weekly Partner Zoom Meeting, Monday Morning Updates, and work on an album monthly directly with Eric.https://positivespinsongs.com/partners/ ZOOM COACHING WITH ERIC:https://makemusicincome.com/coaching/ Get FREE stuffhttps://makemusicincome.com/free/ DISTROKIDGet your music to Spotify, Apple, Youtube, and more for one yearly price.Get 7% Off: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910Get 50% off if you are a student or educator!https://distrokid.com/student/911910 NEED GEAR?SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store!https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5 DISCOShow off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are!https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391 IDENTIFYYGet paid when your music is used on YouTubehttps://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2 POND5Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5!https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusic JOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORDhttps://bit.ly/3fYDSVd MY SYNC LICENSING MUSICPositive Spin Songs - https://positivespinsongs.com MY PERSONAL MUSIChttps://www.ericcopelandmusic.com Timestamps 0:00 - The Future of this Channel6:16 - The Positive Spin Partners Program8:50 - Predicting Future Income by Looking Back11:00 - My 2025 Music Income21:14 - Rise in Sync Royalties27:44 - The Future of Music Income for Me35:53 - The Future of Music Income for YOU

    42 min
  2. EP166. From Stock Music 👎 to 81,000 Spotify Listeners 👍 | Best Music Macs | Musicians Health

    MAR 16

    EP166. From Stock Music 👎 to 81,000 Spotify Listeners 👍 | Best Music Macs | Musicians Health

    Today we chat with Music Composer and YouTuber Bjørnar Kibsgaard and hear his transition from Stock Music producer to growing a following of 81,791 monthly listeners on Spotify! Hear his journey as we also talk about his other expertise which is information about the best Macs for music making, and his health journey. #musicstreaming #spotify #musician Find and Follow Bjørnar's music at:https://open.spotify.com/artist/01hFDeuZo0Yqz82op3ttdP?si=pakIu7xhSfi1QHhm8j2Xkg&nd=1&dlsi=cc22457f6f674c8a Follow his YouTube channel here:https://www.youtube.com/@bjornark WORK WITH ERIC:Work directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland and his sync production company Positive Spin Songs to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming. Weekly Partner Zoom Meeting, Monday Morning Updates, and work on an album monthly directly with Eric.https://positivespinsongs.com/partners/ GET STARTED NOW AT:https://payhip.com/b/iJpke Get FREE stuff at: https://makemusicincome.com/free/ DISTROKID: Get your music to Spotify, Apple, Youtube, and more for one yearly price. Get 7% Off: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910 Get 50% off if you are a student or educator! https://distrokid.com/student/911910 NEED GEAR? SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store, Sweetwater Sound! https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5 DISCO: Show off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are! Click here: https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391 IDENTIFYY: Get paid when your music is used on YouTube Click here: https://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2 POND5: Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5! Click here: https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusic JOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORD: https://bit.ly/3fYDSVd MY SYNC LICENSING MUSIC Positive Spin Songs - https://positivespinsongs.com MY PERSONAL MUSIC:https://www.ericcopelandmusic.com 0:00 - Meet Bjørnar 1:23 - How Does Bjørnar Make Music Income? 3:51 - Bjørnar's Day Gig 5:47 - Bjørnar's Channel 7:07 - The Best Mac for Music in 2026? 13:29 - Transition from $tock to $treaming 26:58 - Breaking Even with Ads & Streaming? 33:51 - A Brief Word on Stock and AI 39:18 - Musicians Health Issues 46:02 - What Does Eric do with Sync Partners? 49:59 - The Best Thing for Composers To Do in 2026

    1h 1m
  3. EP165. Sync in 2026 with Eric Copeland & Randy McGravey | Has Sync Changed? Is AI a Problem? Sync As Income

    FEB 16

    EP165. Sync in 2026 with Eric Copeland & Randy McGravey | Has Sync Changed? Is AI a Problem? Sync As Income

    We jump into lot of topics surrounding sync and being a musician in 2026 with my guest @randymcgraveymusic in this wide-ranging discussion. #musiclicensing #synclicensing #musicroyalties FIND RANDY AT: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClIT3zXdOFvx0OyyiDE65jw WORK WITH ME: Work directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland and his sync production company Positive Spin Songs to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming. Weekly Partner Zoom Meeting, Monday Morning Updates, and work on an album monthly directly with Eric. http://SyncInRealTime.com Get FREE stuff at: https://makemusicincome.com/free/ DISTROKID: Get your music to Spotify, Apple, Youtube, and more for one yearly price. Get 7% Off: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910 Get 50% off if you are a student or educator! https://distrokid.com/student/911910 NEED GEAR? SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store, Sweetwater Sound! https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5 DISCO: Show off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are! Click here: https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391 IDENTIFYY: Get paid when your music is used on YouTube Click here: https://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2 POND5: Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5! Click here: https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusic JOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORD: https://bit.ly/3fYDSVd MY SYNC LICENSING MUSIC: Positive Spin Songs – https://positivespinsongs.com MY PERSONAL MUSIC: https://www.ericcopelandmusic.com

    1 hr
  4. EP164. How Concert Composers Build Successful Careers: Voice, Network, and the "Time Horizon"

    JAN 9

    EP164. How Concert Composers Build Successful Careers: Voice, Network, and the "Time Horizon"

    In this in-depth conversation, successful concert composer and educator @saadhaddadmusic shares how composers actually build sustainable careers — not through shortcuts, but through long-term focus and thinking he calls the "Time Horizon." Saad also breaks down his two foundational pillars for compositional success: - Finding your true compositional voice - Building a strong, intentional network of contacts Together, these three elements form a realistic roadmap for composers navigating today’s classical and concert music world. We discuss: - Saad's personal journey to a successful concert composing - Whether making a living as a concert composer is still possible (or needed) - How long-term thinking and consistent work for years changes career outcomes - Why your musical voice matters - How network and relationships quietly shape real opportunities This interview is essential viewing for composers, educators, students, and anyone pursuing a serious career in composition. Guest: Saad Haddad - YouTube Channel: @saadhaddadmusic Topics: Classical composition, concert music, composer careers, music education #composer #classicalcomposer #concertcomposer #musiccareer #composition #makingalivinginmusic WORK WITH SAAD: 🎼 Composition: Refine your musical voice and develop your ideas. 🎻 Orchestration: Learn to write effectively for any ensemble. 📚 Music Theory & Counterpoint: Strengthen your technical skills. 🎓 College Coaching: Get expert advice for music program applications. 💼 Career Coaching: Navigate the path to a professional music career. 📖 Self-Publishing: Learn how to publish and promote your own music. https://www.saadnhaddad.com/private-lessons.html WORK WITH ME: Work directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland and his sync production company Positive Spin Songs to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming. Weekly Partner Zoom Meeting, Monday Morning Updates, and work on an album monthly directly with Eric. https://positivespinsongs.com/partners/ GET STARTED NOW AT: http://SyncInRealTime.com Get FREE stuff at https://makemusicincome.com/free/ DISTROKID: Get your music to Spotify, Apple, Youtube, and more for one yearly price. Get 7% Off: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910 Get 50% off if you are a student or educator! https://distrokid.com/student/911910 NEED GEAR? SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store, Sweetwater Sound! https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5 DISCO: Show off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are! Click here: https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391 IDENTIFYY: Get paid when your music is used on YouTube Click here: https://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2 POND5: Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5! Click here: https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusic JOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORD: https://bit.ly/3fYDSVd MY SYNC LICENSING MUSIC Positive Spin Songs - https://positivespinsongs.com MY PERSONAL MUSIC: https://www.ericcopelandmusic.com

    55 min
  5. EP163. How A Music Supervisor Really Works | An Interview with Jody Friedman | Music Supervisor Series

    12/16/2025

    EP163. How A Music Supervisor Really Works | An Interview with Jody Friedman | Music Supervisor Series

    Welcome to the first in a new series of interviews that are focused solely on music supervisors. These are the people who are directly in the path of any of us focused on a career in sync licensing. So I think it’s crucial that we find out how they work, what they look for, where they look first, where they look second…. And get ready for them all to have slightly (or wildly) different views on things like AI, exclusivity, perpetuity, and the way they go about their job of finding music. Today I talk to Jody Friedman who has secured over 10,000 placements, licensing music to media, including theme songs, blockbuster movie trailers, globally recognized brands, and more. #musiclicensing #synclicensing #musicsupervisor WORK WITH ME:Work directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming. Weekly Partner Zoom Meeting, Monday Morning Updates, and work on an album monthly directly with Eric.https://positivespinsongs.com/partners/ Get FREE stuff at https://makemusicincome.com/free/ DISTROKID:Get your music to Spotify, Apple, Youtube, and more for one yearly price.Get 7% Off: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910Get 50% off if you are a student or educator! https://distrokid.com/student/911910 NEED GEAR?SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store, Sweetwater Sound!https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5 DISCO: Show off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are!Click here: https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391 IDENTIFYY: Get paid when your music is used on YouTubeClick here: https://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2 POND5: Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5!Click here: https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusic JOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORD:https://bit.ly/3fYDSVd MY SYNC LICENSING MUSICPositive Spin Songs - https://positivespinsongs.com MY PERSONAL MUSIC:https://www.ericcopelandmusic.com TIMESTAMPS:0:00 - Introducing Jody Friedman5:12 - Talking Sync Agents12:44 - The Music Supervisor Role18:00 - Jody's Own Libraries20:37 - Music Business Changes22:30 - A Golden Era for Sync24:30 - Should Everyone Do Everything?29:18 - AI in Sync

    36 min
  6. EP162. My Secrets to Sync | What You Need to DO and Know to Succeed in Sync Licensing to TV, Film, and More

    11/10/2025

    EP162. My Secrets to Sync | What You Need to DO and Know to Succeed in Sync Licensing to TV, Film, and More

    In this video, I’m going to tell you what I do to get the interest of music libraries, and then why they take music albums from me and my partners and clients, which gets the songs from those albums into TV, film, and advertising placements that brings income in several ways including a quarterly check like I’ll get this month from BMI, which is my PRO or performance rights organization.LINKS IN THIS VIDEO:The GETTING IN SYNC COURSE:GET YOUR MUSIC TO TV, FILM, ADS, AND GAMING: https://payhip.com/b/KtoqHGet FREE stuff at https://makemusicincome.com/free/BECOME A POSITIVE SPIN SONGS PARTNERWork directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming.https://positivespinsongs.com/partners/--GET YOUR MUSIC TO TV, FILM, ADS, AND GAMING: https://payhip.com/b/KtoqHONE-ON-ONE COACHING FOR COMPOSERS AND PRODUCERS:Get Feedback From Eric on Your Music & Career: https://makemusicincome.com/coaching/SELL YOUR MUSIC ON NON-EXCLUSIVE LIBRARIES: https://payhip.com/b/pvsfLFREE EBOOK: THE DO-EVERYTHING CHECKLIST FOR YOUR SONGShttps://makemusicincome.com/checklistFREE COURSE: HOW TO UPLOAD TO POND5https://makemusicincome.com/pond5FREE EBOOK: 50 WAYS TO MAKE MUSIC INCOME V4https://makemusicincome.com/50waysFREE EBOOK!: TOOLS YOUR NEED TO MAKE MUSIC INCOME V2https://makemusicincome.com/toolsFREE STOCK MUSIC RESEARCH PAPER: "The Ubiquitous Style, Form, and Instrumentation of Corporate Stock Music"https://makemusicincome.com/ubiquitousNEW! GET MAKE MUSIC INCOME GEAR!Cool MMI T-Shirts, Caps, and of course Mugs for Lovely Beverages!https://cre8iv.sellfy.store/JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST (Get an email when we release new videos!)http://eepurl.com/hF8ihrTHE OFFICIAL WEB SITE:https://makemusicincome.com/OUR WEEKLY PODCAST:https://anchor.fm/makemusicincomeDISTROKID: Get your music to Spotify, Apple, Youtube, and more for one yearly price.Get 7% Off:Click here: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910Get 50% off if you are a student or educator!Click here: https://distrokid.com/student/911910NEED GEAR?SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store, Sweetwater Sound!https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5DISCO: Show off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are!Click here: https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391IDENTIFYY: Get paid when your music is used on YouTubeClick here: https://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2POND5: Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5!Click here: https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusicJOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORD:https://bit.ly/3fYDSVdMY SYNC LICENSING MUSICPositive Spin Songs - https://positivespinsongs.comMY PERSONAL MUSIC:https://www.ericcopelandmusic.comTIMESTAMPS:0:00 - Does my "DO" Offend You?3:10 - Start the "Getting in Sync" Course FREE4:14 - Peek Inside Our Partners Program6:40 - Secret 1. Separate Yourself12:09 - Secret 2. Uniqueness20:37 - Quality is Job #129:46 - Quantity is Job #237:50 - The Intangibles

    48 min
  7. EP161. $200/Month (or More!) in Stock Music, Content ID, and Sheet Music? A Late 2025 Report

    10/27/2025

    EP161. $200/Month (or More!) in Stock Music, Content ID, and Sheet Music? A Late 2025 Report

    Can online music sales in stock, Content ID, and sheet music make you money while you sleep? Well…maybe a little…. LINKS IN THIS VIDEO: Get FREE stuff at https://makemusicincome.com/free/ BECOME A POSITIVE SPIN SONGS PARTNERWork directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming.https://positivespinsongs.com/partners/ SELL YOUR MUSIC ON STOCK & NON-EXCLUSIVE LIBRARIES:https://payhip.com/b/pvsfLLast chance to grab this course! Going away soon. NOW JUST $39! -- GET YOUR MUSIC TO TV, FILM, ADS, AND GAMING:https://payhip.com/b/KtoqH ONE-ON-ONE COACHING FOR COMPOSERS AND PRODUCERS:Get Feedback From Eric on Your Music & Career:https://makemusicincome.com/coaching/ FREE EBOOK: THE DO-EVERYTHING CHECKLIST FOR YOUR SONGShttps://makemusicincome.com/checklist FREE COURSE: HOW TO UPLOAD TO POND5https://makemusicincome.com/pond5 FREE EBOOK: 50 WAYS TO MAKE MUSIC INCOME V4https://makemusicincome.com/50ways FREE EBOOK: TOOLS YOUR NEED TO MAKE MUSIC INCOME V2https://makemusicincome.com/tools FREE STOCK MUSIC RESEARCH PAPER: "The Ubiquitous Style, Form, and Instrumentation of Corporate Stock Music"https://makemusicincome.com/ubiquitous NEW! GET MAKE MUSIC INCOME GEAR!Cool MMI T-Shirts, Caps, and of course Mugs for Lovely Beverages!https://cre8iv.sellfy.store/ JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST (Get an email when we release new videos!)http://eepurl.com/hF8ihr THE OFFICIAL WEB SITE:https://makemusicincome.com/ OUR WEEKLY PODCAST:https://anchor.fm/makemusicincome DISTROKID: Get your music to Spotify, Apple, YouTube, and more for one yearly price.Get 7% Off:https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910Get 50% off if you are a student or educator!https://distrokid.com/student/911910 NEED GEAR?SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store, Sweetwater Sound!https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5 DISCO: Show off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are!https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391 IDENTIFYY: Get paid when your music is used on YouTubehttps://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2 POND5: Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5!https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusic JOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORD:https://bit.ly/3fYDSVd MY SYNC LICENSING MUSICPositive Spin Songs - https://positivespinsongs.com MY PERSONAL MUSIC:https://www.ericcopelandmusic.com TIMESTAMPS:0:00 - Is Stock Music Viable in 2025?5:05 - Going Out of Business Sale6:37 - Positive Spin Partners7:57 - Stock Music & Sites in 20259:40 - My Approach in 202516:46 - My Stock Music Income in 202545:28 - Content ID Weirdness in 202551:51 - Selling Sheet Music Online

    1 hr
  8. EP160. How to Get to the Next Step in Your Music Career | The Production Music Conference Update

    10/21/2025

    EP160. How to Get to the Next Step in Your Music Career | The Production Music Conference Update

    So what's next for you in Music? This is a question. I've had to ask myself over and over through the years.And it's likely when you will have to ask yourself all the time almost endlessly, to make sure you are going in the direction you need to go.I also talk about my experience at the Production Music Conference in LA. LINKS IN THIS VIDEO: Get FREE stuff at https://makemusicincome.com/free/ BECOME A POSITIVE SPIN SONGS PARTNERWork directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming.https://positivespinsongs.com/partners/ -- GET YOUR MUSIC TO TV, FILM, ADS, AND GAMING: https://payhip.com/b/KtoqH ONE-ON-ONE COACHING FOR COMPOSERS AND PRODUCERS:Get Feedback From Eric on Your Music & Career: https://makemusicincome.com/coaching/ SELL YOUR MUSIC ON NON-EXCLUSIVE LIBRARIES: https://payhip.com/b/pvsfL FREE EBOOK: THE DO-EVERYTHING CHECKLIST FOR YOUR SONGShttps://makemusicincome.com/checklist FREE COURSE: HOW TO UPLOAD TO POND5https://makemusicincome.com/pond5 FREE EBOOK: 50 WAYS TO MAKE MUSIC INCOME V4https://makemusicincome.com/50ways FREE EBOOK!: TOOLS YOUR NEED TO MAKE MUSIC INCOME V2https://makemusicincome.com/tools FREE STOCK MUSIC RESEARCH PAPER: "The Ubiquitous Style, Form, and Instrumentation of Corporate Stock Music"https://makemusicincome.com/ubiquitous NEW! GET MAKE MUSIC INCOME GEAR!Cool MMI T-Shirts, Caps, and of course Mugs for Lovely Beverages!https://cre8iv.sellfy.store/ JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST (Get an email when we release new videos!)http://eepurl.com/hF8ihr THE OFFICIAL WEB SITE:https://makemusicincome.com/ OUR WEEKLY PODCAST:https://anchor.fm/makemusicincome DISTROKID: Get your music to Spotify, Apple, Youtube, and more for one yearly price.Get 7% Off:Click here: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910Get 50% off if you are a student or educator!Click here: https://distrokid.com/student/911910 NEED GEAR?SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store, Sweetwater Sound!https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5 DISCO: Show off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are!Click here: https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391 IDENTIFYY: Get paid when your music is used on YouTubeClick here: https://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2 POND5: Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5!Click here: https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusic JOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORD:https://bit.ly/3fYDSVd MY SYNC LICENSING MUSICPositive Spin Songs - https://positivespinsongs.com MY PERSONAL MUSIC:https://www.ericcopelandmusic.com TIMESTAMPS:0:00 - What's Your Next Step?9:07 - The Production Music Conference25:57 - Your Next Step: Easy Mode28:34 - Your Next Step: Advanced Mode39:58 - Your Next Step: Expert Mode

    51 min

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In this weekly podcast, composer, arranger, and producer Eric Copeland of Make Music Income talks about his continuing journey to Make Music Income with Music Licensing, Music Production, Music Publishing, Sheet Music, Artist Income, Online Channel Income, and more. Eric also interviews people from across the spectrum of the music business, specifically asking: "How do you make music income?"

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