44 episodes

Welcome to ‘Making Creativity Pay’, this isn’t a podcast about making millions, more about speaking to people in creative industries whether that’s music, literature, art or anything that relies on creativity about how that ties in with making a living from it.

The aim is not about selling out any creative endeavour but to ensure that there is at least some way to pay the bills and keep the lights on, money can be seen to be a vulgar part of the process but getting fairly paid for the time, effort and expertise you put in to something shouldn't be a bad thing.

Making Creativity Pay Dan Barnett

    • Arts

Welcome to ‘Making Creativity Pay’, this isn’t a podcast about making millions, more about speaking to people in creative industries whether that’s music, literature, art or anything that relies on creativity about how that ties in with making a living from it.

The aim is not about selling out any creative endeavour but to ensure that there is at least some way to pay the bills and keep the lights on, money can be seen to be a vulgar part of the process but getting fairly paid for the time, effort and expertise you put in to something shouldn't be a bad thing.

    I Hope You Fail - AI and Art

    I Hope You Fail - AI and Art

    It’s impossible to move at the moment for think pieces about the future of AI and for better or worse you’re getting another one here.

    In this episode I’ll talk a bit about examples from art, music, writing and coding and how what could be an incredible advance for some will bring consequences for others.

    I show how with text to speech advances it's hard to tell real and AI adverts apart, how whole songs can be created from just a sentence and the argument around 'homeopathic robbery' in that if you train on so much data it's impossible to tell where you've taken from then is it really theft or just a paradigm shift.



    Links:

    Text to Speech with Eleven Labs: https://elevenlabs.io/

    Text to Music with Udio: https://www.udio.com/

    Full episode of 'Hard Fork' that includes discussion around AI art and copyright issues:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/20/podcasts/20hard-fork-elon-empire-artists-ai.html

    Full episode with Andy Stanton on his book
    Benny the Blue Whale: A Descent into Story, Language and the Madness of ChatGPT

    https://podcasting.makingcreativitypay.com/chatgpt-and-creativity-andy-stanton/


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    • 13 min
    Award Winning Journalist Rachael Healy

    Award Winning Journalist Rachael Healy

    “It feels like people do have to almost have a second career to support themselves. And it's not clear where the kind of goals or the safe spot is anymore where you can just fully concentrate on that thing”

    Rachael Healy is an award winning journalist and the current British Journalism Awards Journalist of the year for Arts and Entertainment.

    Rachael is a freelance journalist working predominantly with The Guardian and the i newspapers and we talk about getting articles commissioned, from show reviews through to in-depth investigative reporting.

    We also discuss the star rating systems of reviews, building a personal brand as well as her repeated focus in her writing on the financial impact of being an artist including the experience of performers at the fringe

    Rachael Links

    Rachael’s Best In Class article https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2024/feb/29/woke-tv-comedy-workshops-infuriating-right-wing-press 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ohrhealy 

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rachaelhealyjournalist/ 

    Website: http://www.rachaelhealy.co.uk/ 

    British Journalism Awards Winners: https://pressgazette.co.uk/press-gazette-events/british-journalism-awards-winners-2023/ 

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    • 29 min
    Comedy and Medicine - Matt Hutchinson

    Comedy and Medicine - Matt Hutchinson

    “...people who go into medicine, often it's not so much just pure science people, it's people who've got maybe a bit more of a broader interest range than your standard person who just wants to be a scientist or a mathematician or something like that. So I think often you find people going into it who've got a bit of a second interest, even at the point of sort of choosing what career they're going into.”

    This episode is with Comedian Matt Hutchinson we talk about his experiences of the 2023 Edinburgh Fringe with his show ‘Hostile’ from promoting the show on Social Media and Flyering through to working with PR and Production companies.

    We also discuss how being a comedian interacts with his day job as a Doctor and how he somehow manages to combine all this with studying for a research PhD as well as currently being in the middle of writing a book based on his experiences as a Doctor.

    Matt Links

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/hutch_up 

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/matthutchinsoncomedy/ 

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    • 37 min
    Jay Lafferty and Kathleen Hughes - Comedy in Scotland

    Jay Lafferty and Kathleen Hughes - Comedy in Scotland

    Ahead of the Glasgow comedy festival which runs from the 13th to the 31st March I spoke to comedians Jay Lafferty and Kathleen Hughes two Scottish comedians who are performing at the festival. 

    We talk about Kathleen’s experiences as a relatively newer comedian who after a two week run last year is currently preparing for her first full Edinburgh Fringe run in 2024.

    We also discuss Jay’s experiences as a full time comedian, going on a nationwide tour with her show ‘Bahookie’ and how the Scottish comedy has changed and the supportive nature within the scene.

    See Jay and Kathleen Live

    Jay Lafferty - Bahookie at Glasgow Comedy Festival (29th March):

    https://www.glasgowcomedyfestival.com/performances/jay-lafferty-bahookie-special-live-recording/ 

    Bahookie On Tour:

    https://gildedballoon.co.uk/bahookie/ 

    Kathleen Hughes - Cryptid (WiP) at Glasgow Comedy Festival (24th March):

    https://www.glasgowcomedyfestival.com/performances/kathleen-hughes-cryptid-work-in-progress/ 

    Cryptid at Edinburgh Fringe:

    https://tickets.edfringe.com/whats-on/kathleen-hughes-cryptid 

    Jay

    Website:https://www.watchthisspaceproductions.com/ 

    Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/jayjaylaffs 

    Joy Agenda Podcast: https://pod.link/1719574893 

    Kathleen

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/kathleenwho_ 

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kathleenwho_ 

    The Humour Mill: https://www.humourmillglasgow.co.uk/ 

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    Episode Photos:

    Kathleen: https://www.instagram.com/_dunkan_/ 

    https://www.instagram.com/tjstade/

    • 59 min
    LMAOnaise - Crowdfunding, Journalism and Newsletters

    LMAOnaise - Crowdfunding, Journalism and Newsletters

    “Finding out information about comedy, if you don't already know what you're looking for can be ridiculously overwhelming”

    This episode I spoke to Zoë Paskett founder of LMAOnaise a website, newsletter and soon to be newspaper that covers some of the less mainstream areas of comedy.

    The ethos of this podcast has always been that even if your art may not be driven by money, without the money it’s difficult to keep creating the art and so marketing matters and my chat with Zoë was a great example of this, creating a print version of something when even web journalism is collapsing is an ambitious aim. 

    We discuss Zoë’s plans for the newspaper and her work setting up and promoting the crowdfunder along with her experiences as a journalist for publications such as the London Evening Standard and from running her weekly newsletter for the last three years as well as the value of curation when it comes to comedy.

    LINKS

    Crowdfunder for Newspaper

    https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/p/help-lmaonaise-comedy-launch-a-print-newsletter/ 

    Website:https://www.lmaonaisecomedy.com/ 

    Instagram:  http://instagram.com/lmaonaisecomedy 

    Threads: https://www.threads.net/@lmaonaisecomedy 

    Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’

    Website: https://podcasting.makingcreativitypay.com/episodes/ 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/Beyond_the_Pod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/

    • 36 min
    The Lancashire Hotpots - 21st Century Folk

    The Lancashire Hotpots - 21st Century Folk

    "With the advent of social media and Myspace as was, we sort of got a bit of a following and we've been growing our audience ever since"


    This episode is with Sheldon Southworth AKA Dickie Ticker from the band The Lancashire Hotpots.

    The band's motto is “21st Century Folk for 21st Century folk” and have released albums including Never Mind the Hotpots and Achtung Gravy and have performed at festivals such as Glastonbury and Kendall Calling as well as touring the country and are currently on their Bisto Inferno tour.  

    We talk about the challenges facing a live band in the current economic climate, promoting band both online and the various tools and techniques involved in selling tickets to live shows.



    LINKS

    Website: https://thelancashirehotpots.net/ 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/thehotpots 

    Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/thelancashirehotpots/ 

    Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/thelancashirehotpots/ 

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/5ac41g3jUH9rBoe6zawiaB 

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thelancashirehotpots?lang=en 

    Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’

    Website: https://podcasting.makingcreativitypay.com/episodes/ 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/Beyond_the_Pod 

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/ 

    • 36 min

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