Making It Awkward

Jessica Wilson, MS RD

What's going on with health and food policy right now? Each week dietitian and author Jessica Wilson shares her conversations with experts in their field or on their farm and figures out how we got here and why. Jessica has followed the ultra-processed food hysteria to trad wife pipeline and the direct path from COVID conspiracies to RFK Jr to the current administration. From her conversation with the Make America Healthy Again spokesperson to the Oregon beef farmer this podcast connects it all. Listen each week as she brings something new to the conversation and at times makes it awkward.

  1. Glyphosate & the People vs Poison Rally: Fear vs Facts

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    Glyphosate & the People vs Poison Rally: Fear vs Facts

    How much should we fear glyphosate? We get drastically different answers depending on who you ask. Trampus Harmon, Making it Awkward's farmer in residence, returns to the show to provide us the facts, context and nuance that was missing from podcaster and Wellfluencer Courtney Swan's Realfoodology podcast episode about glyphosate. Trampus loves facts over fearmongering, and prefers nuance and complexity with statements about the state of farming. Trampus points out the dichotomies of Swan discussing the distrust in corporations while doing ads for them throughout the podcast and on social media.  The two discuss the claim from the MAHA Moms "this is not what we voted for" and Swan's false assertion that "the dose makes the poison" no longer applies. Trampus gives Jessica some things to listen for when she attends the People vs Poison rally on April 27th at the Supreme Court. Additionally Trampus shares a bit about the grant proposal he wrote in college titled "A study of long-term effects of herbicides on the American Farm Family" and he couldn't leave without Jessica asking him about potential cuts to SNAP.  Supposedly glyphosate free foods RFK's glyphosate statements Executive order on pesticides Glyphosate article retraction Glyphosate in kids   Like this episode? You can rate, review, subscribe, follow, share and comment! Questions about the show? Guest pitches? Email makingitawkwardpod@gmail.com You can buy awkward merch! You can become a Patreon member! You can watch this episode at https://www.youtube.com/@MakingItAwkwardPod Follow Jessica Wilson on Instagram @jessicawilson.msrd and TikTok @byjessicawilson   Jessica Wilson's book: It's Always Been Ours; Rewriting the Story of Black Women's Bodies

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  2. Food Fearmongering at the Center for Science in the Public Interest with Sherene Chou, MS RD

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    Food Fearmongering at the Center for Science in the Public Interest with Sherene Chou, MS RD

    The Center for Science in the Public Interest is the original nutrition influencer. It has used the same alarmist language that gets traction currently used on social media for over 50 years. Sherene Chou returns to the show to talk about our shared experiences reading CSPI's Nutrition Action Healthletter, and how calories are the things that the org cares about. The two of them find multiple examples of CSPI's racism and sh*ting on cultural foods.  CSPI is a lobbying organization, and if they're setting the priorities what does that mean?   "1993: CSPI publishes the first in a series of landmark investigative reports (beginning with Chinese-restaurant food)." DON'T EAT SALT DON'T EAT BACON Counting calories in Thai, Chinese, Mexican, Italian, and other cuisines CSPI's list of food additives CSPI's vegan burgers and their list CSPI's MLK Day post.  CSPI's dietary guidelines Archived timeline of CSPI wins CSPI x Dr. Jessica Knurick   Zane and his weight release Like this episode? You can rate, review, subscribe, follow, share and comment! Questions about the show? Guest pitches? Email makingitawkwardpod@gmail.com You can buy awkward merch! You can become a Patreon member! You can watch this episode at https://www.youtube.com/@MakingItAwkwardPod Follow Jessica Wilson on Instagram @jessicawilson.msrd and TikTok @byjessicawilson Jessica Wilson's book: It's Always Been Ours; Rewriting the Story of Black Women's Bodies

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  3. Leveling Down: Levels Health, CGMs and the False Promises of Data-Driven Health with Selena Salfen and Meghan Cichy

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    Leveling Down: Levels Health, CGMs and the False Promises of Data-Driven Health with Selena Salfen and Meghan Cichy

    Would you ever add chia seeds to your latte? Levels Health, a health-tech startup co-founded by presumptive Surgeon General Casey Means, is a deeply unserious company and provides both hilarious and irresponsible guidance on its app.  Public health dietitians Selena Salfen and Meghan Cichy return to the show to discuss our 30 days of using a CGM paired with the Levels app.  Jessica didn't find what she was looking for in her CGM data and laughed at the app's inaccuracies.  Meghan thought she was working harder than Levels, and found both more helpful and nicer CGM feedback with ChatGPT.  Selena shared her history with health anxiety and her longer term use of a Stelo CGM. She shares how her experience was impacted when Levels provided her with incorrect data and biometric analyses.  The three get into whether we should be using CGMs and if so, under what conditions.  The three also discuss the most recent Levels podcast #280 and how it seems to answer a lot of concerns Selena and Jessica had in the CGM intro episode. The episode also discussed a lack of research to back up claims made by Levels and Casey Means herself. Host Ben Grynol and guest Dom D'Agostino, PhD took an unexpected turn and veered into the closed off "adult" section of Blockbuster; could there be a tie to food choices and curiosity?  Imprecision Nutrition? Intraindividual Variability of Glucose Responses to Duplicate Presented Meals in Adults Without Diabetes Casey's Instagram post with her food scores  Like this episode? You can rate, review, subscribe, follow, share and comment! Questions about the show? Guest pitches? Email makingitawkwardpod@gmail.com You can buy awkward merch! You can become a Patreon member! You can watch this episode at https://www.youtube.com/@MakingItAwkwardPod Follow Jessica Wilson on Instagram @jessicawilson.msrd and TikTok @byjessicawilson Jessica Wilson's book: It's Always Been Ours; Rewriting the Story of Black Women's Bodies

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  4. Casey Means Went to Congress, Will She Be Our Next Surgeon General? With Meghan Cichy MPH RDN and Selena Salfen MPH RDN

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    Casey Means Went to Congress, Will She Be Our Next Surgeon General? With Meghan Cichy MPH RDN and Selena Salfen MPH RDN

    Dr. Casey Means went to Congress last week. On February 28 2026 she went before the Senate's committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions to make her case to be the next Surgeon General.  During the hearing Casey was asked about her statements on vaccines, her medical license, birth control, and her social media sponsors, but were those the questions that needed to be asked? Today public health dietitians Meghan Cichy and Selena Salfen return to the show to share their thoughts on the hearing, what Senators could have asked Casey, and a potentially controversial chat about whether she should be confirmed. They discuss Mean's media training and her focus on "shared clinical decision making."   Casey Means has been featured on her podcast in the past. We had one episode about her upbringing with brother Calley Means, and two on her health tech start up, Levels which provides constant glucose monitoring, a tracking app and lab tests for hundreds of dollars. Statement on the planned hepatitis B birth dose vaccine trial in Guinea-Bissau Filing FTC complaint Operation Metro Surge results in 203 million dollar impact on Minneapolis Trump celebrates 2.4 million Americans 'lifted' off SNAP benefits   Want to support the show? You can rate, review, subscribe, follow, share,  comment and become a Patreon member! Questions about the show? Guest pitches? Email makingitawkwardpod@gmail.com You can buy awkward merch! You can watch this episode at https://www.youtube.com/@MakingItAwkwardPod Follow Jessica Wilson on Instagram @jessicawilson.msrd and TikTok @byjessicawilson   Jessica Wilson's book: It's Always Been Ours; Rewriting the Story of Black Women's Bodies  Welcome back to MIA, Jessica Wilson, dietitian and author of IABO. you can find me on IG at.

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What's going on with health and food policy right now? Each week dietitian and author Jessica Wilson shares her conversations with experts in their field or on their farm and figures out how we got here and why. Jessica has followed the ultra-processed food hysteria to trad wife pipeline and the direct path from COVID conspiracies to RFK Jr to the current administration. From her conversation with the Make America Healthy Again spokesperson to the Oregon beef farmer this podcast connects it all. Listen each week as she brings something new to the conversation and at times makes it awkward.

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