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The future of finance is digital. Welcome to Money Code, the show that decodes stablecoins and the evolution of programmable money for builders, investors, and decision-makers. Each week, join hosts Chuk Okpalugo, Author of Stablecoin Blueprint and Raj Parekh, Head of Payments/Stablecoins at Monad Foundation as they break down the systems and strategies of seasoned operators in the space, revealing the insights you need for better build and buy decisions.

  1. 18H AGO

    What Stablecoins Actually Fix in Cross-Border Payments w/ Rowland Berry (Payoneer)

    Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK. In episode 27 of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with Rowland Berry, VP of Strategic Partnerships at Payoneer, a cross-border payments platform that moves $90B annually for nearly 2 million small businesses across 190+ countries. They unpack what 18 months of evaluating the stablecoin space revealed: where stablecoins genuinely upgrade cross-border infrastructure, why off-ramps remain the hardest unsolved problem, and how Payoneer's closed-loop token PAYO-USD will work inside the wallet flows their customers already use. Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here: https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN Chapters 00:00 Two big moves: Bridge partnership and an OCC trust charter 02:05 How Payoneer actually works: $90B, 2M SMBs, 20 years of rails 06:13 Separating signal from noise: where stablecoins deliver real value 08:49 "Will it get cheaper?" — what the waitlist customers actually asked 10:16 Off-ramps aren't solved: last-mile delivery as the real unlock 14:28 Not a new business model — an infrastructure evolution 16:34 Why Bridge was a speed-to-market play 19:25 "They want trust, not keys" — what SMBs actually need 24:34 The OCC trust charter and what PAYO-USD unlocks 30:44 "Yield is not the north star" — reserve management philosophy 36:10 Stripe, PayPal, SoFi: how the market is evolving 43:26 Builder advice: unhappy flows and building with ambiguity Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | http://stablecoinblueprint.com Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz Rowland Berry: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rowlandberry/ About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNK BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

    48 min

  2. APR 2

    Stablecoin M&A: There's no Winner-Take-All w/ Itai Turbahn (Dynamic / Fireblocks)

    Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK. In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with Itai Turbahn, founder and CEO of Dynamic (now part of Fireblocks), where his team builds the embedded wallet infrastructure that lets developers spin up global money movement in hours instead of years. They unpack why the world's largest companies are building their own payment networks (YouTube alone has paid out billions to creators), what happens when the tech cost approaches zero but cryptography, security, and compliance stay hard, and why the M&A frenzy from Mastercard-BVNK to Fireblocks-Dynamic has every player attacking global finance from a different angle. Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here: https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN Chapters 00:00 What is Dynamic? Embedded wallets as the Twilio of money movement 02:15 From crypto-native UX fix to global financial primitive 07:37 The full stack: wallets, on/off ramps, liquidity, licensing - and why enterprises don't want Lego blocks 10:52 "Build a global Venmo in an hour": remittance, payroll, B2B, and the CeFi-DeFi bridge 14:23 Earn yield, issue a card, off-ramp to local currency - the embedded wallet bundle 17:55 "Don't roll your own cryptography": what AI and cloud code can't solve 22:36 "Our industry should be boring" - trust at scale and the fintech reframe 25:35 YouTube's $100B payout problem: payments as innovation, not risk management 29:42 No winner-take-all: why M&A is chaotic and that's the point 36:22 "More opportunities to build now, not less" Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | http://stablecoinblueprint.com Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz Itai Turbahn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/turbahn/ | https://x.com/turbahn | https://dynamic.xyz | https://fireblocks.com About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNK BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

    38 min

  3. MAR 26

    How Should Banks Respond to Stablecoins w/ Chris Dean (Treasury Prime)

    Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK.  In episode 25 of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh are joined by Chris Dean, CEO and co-founder at Treasury Prime. They unpack why bank “slowness” is mostly a risk and proof problem, how fintechs actually use banks for deposits/credit/payments, and how stablecoins and newer, tech-first banks will reshape the US banking landscape. Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here: https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN Chapters 00:00 Banks are slow because change equals risk 02:26 Which banks move fast and why leadership matters 05:33 Treasury Prime’s role between banks and fintechs 09:16 The 3 fintech JTBD buckets: deposits, credit, payments 12:09 How fintech partnerships defend community banks from big-bank pressure 15:01 Stablecoins as deposit threat vs “just another rail” 17:43 The banker pitch: stablecoins are already in your flows 24:22 Where US banking goes next: de novos, charters, consolidation 27:21 Why running a bank stays expensive even with AI 32:25 What a “core” actually is and why regulators resist replacement 35:23 Are blockchains the answer, or do they create new reconciliation failure modes? 44:17 The practical playbook: start with stablecoin pay-in/pay-out Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | http://stablecoinblueprint.com  Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz  Chris Dean: https://www.treasuryprime.com/  About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry.   Whether you’re building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNK BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

    48 min

  4. MAR 20

    Breaking Down Mastercard’s BVNK Acquisition

    Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK. In this Special Edition episode of Money Code we break down MasterCard’s planned acquisition of BVNK and what it signals about stablecoins shifting from a niche rail to mainstream payments infrastructure. We hear why bridging fiat and stablecoins, plus interoperability and compliance, is the real work behind faster global money movement. Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here: https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN 0:00 Opening 0:13 Breaking News On The Acquisition 0:41 MasterCard’s Digital Currency Strategy 2:31 Why Stablecoin Payments Are Growing 5:35 Crypto Cards And Stablecoin Settlement 9:39 What BVNK Gains From MasterCard 12:27 Interoperability And Tokenized Deposits 15:30 Closing Timeline And Final Takeaways Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | http://stablecoinblueprint.com  Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz  About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry.  Whether you’re building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNKBVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

    16 min

  5. MAR 19

    70 Countries Without a Single Download w/ May Zabeneh (PayPal)

    Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK. In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with May Zabeneh, SVP and GM of Crypto at PayPal, where she's building the playbook for how a major fintech embeds stablecoins into existing payment infrastructure. They unpack how PayPal enabled stablecoins in millions of wallets and the bets they hope to pay off, how "disrupting yourself is painful but important for long-term success," and why the best stablecoin strategy might be one where nobody needs to say the word "crypto." Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here: https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN Chapters 00:00 PYUSD goes live in 70 countries - and users don't need to do anything 01:48 Why custodial stablecoins are harder than open wallets 04:25 "They can't even hold balance today": the utility unlock 07:52 Should crypto and stablecoins even share a name? 11:23 Foundations before flywheel: hold, earn, send, spend - in that order 14:56 Payouts as the Trojan horse: gig workers and Google creators 17:36 "There were times we were trying to do too much" 20:15 No playbook existed - PayPal had to write it 23:50 Disrupting yourself inside a public company 28:12 "You don't need to touch crypto": abstracting it away for merchants 32:37 The Skype analogy: interoperability as the real growth driver 35:42 AI agents will need programmable money - but not yet 41:50 Success means stablecoins become invisible infrastructure Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | http://stablecoinblueprint.com Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz May Zabeneh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mayzabaneh/ | http://paypal.com/ About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNK BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

    46 min

  6. MAR 12

    Stablecoins Won't Build Themselves w/ Zach Abrams (Bridge)

    Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK. In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with Zach Abrams, co-founder and CEO of Bridge, the stablecoin infrastructure company acquired by Stripe that grew several multiples in 2025. They unpack why Zach calls himself "the founder equivalent of a child of the Great Depression," how following developers into the "fog of war" built five businesses in two years, and why stablecoins won't realize their potential unless someone forces the economics away from existing issuers and back to consumers. Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here: https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN Chapters 00:00 How Bridge went from early adopters to mainstream in three months 02:54 "The founder equivalent of a Great Depression child" 06:09 Why stablecoins are the first global financial building block 07:30 Agentic payments: planting seeds for the next cycle 14:30 How one use case kept pulling Bridge into the next 18:45 The $10B ceiling that forced a bank charter 22:50 "Everyone is competing on maximal regulation" 31:42 Why "focus" is wrong advice for this market 36:17 The Stripe acquisition made things harder, not easier 43:42 How one customer becomes five products 49:30 Why tokenized stocks beat real ones at half the borrowing cost 52:55 "If we don't build it, no one else will" 58:47 Where to find Zach and Bridge Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | http://stablecoinblueprint.com Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz Zach Abrams: https://x.com/zcabrams | https://bridge.xyz About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNK BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

    59 min

  7. MAR 5

    Stablecoins Aren't for Americans w/ Ayo Omojola

    Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK. In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with Ayo Omojola, General Partner at Refract VC, former Cash App banking lead, and organizer of A Very Stable Conference.  They unpack why the biggest stablecoin opportunity isn't in the US, where Chase is "ferocious" and payments feel good enough, but in serving billions of people worldwide who can now access dollar-denominated savings from an app store, and why $300B in circulating supply is still peanuts compared to what's coming. Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here: https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN Chapters 00:00 Investing in stablecoins: why people matter more than tech 03:30 The wealth flight thesis: why rich people move money to Switzerland 08:00 Agentic payments: real or overhyped? 12:35 A Very Stable Conference: catching lightning in a bottle 19:20 The Jamie Dimon problem: competing with Chase 26:00 Why long sales cycles are a product problem 28:50 Cash App parallels: "we knew a secret" 34:15 $300B is peanuts — the real market sizing math 37:15 Why incumbents have paper-thin advantages 42:45 "Fish don't feel the water as wet" 49:20 Non-USD stablecoins: institutional gaps as the foothold 54:30 Where to find Ayo and A Very Stable Conference Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | http://stablecoinblueprint.com Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz Ayo Omojola: https://x.com/ay_o | https://kunle.app About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNK BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

    45 min

  8. FEB 26

    How Automation + Liquidity Scaled OpenFX to $45B w/ Prabhakar Reddy

    Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK.  In episode 21 of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh are joined by Prabhakar Reddy, Co-Founder & CEO at OpenFX. They explain why “instant FX” can’t be achieved with bank API wrappers alone, and how OpenFX combines end-to-end automation, regional liquidity, local rails, and stablecoins as a routing leg to settle large cross-border transfers in minutes, with bank access and balance sheet constraints setting the ceiling at global scale. Chapters 00:00 $45B proves the point: what’s broken in FX 03:20 The three unlocks: ICP, automation, 24/7 team 06:30 What OpenFX sells: “money moves like SMS” 09:45 Working capital and prefunding: the hidden tax on fintech FX 12:40 Stablecoins as a routing leg, not the product 15:50 Currency expansion playbook: demand, regulation, bank rails, automation 21:15 Why FX wrappers can’t fix bank cutoffs and float incentives 26:40 Why crypto exchanges fail at $10M+ size 29:05 The $10M walkthrough: fiat → stablecoin leg → fiat in minutes 34:45 What has to be true: licenses, liquidity, automation, security, balance sheet 38:30 Defensibility: regional liquidity + utility pricing + 24/7 ops 42:25 What breaks next: bank access and balance sheet ceiling 44:40 The future: AI agents, and why non-USD stablecoins lag Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | http://stablecoinblueprint.com  Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz  Prabhakar Reddy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/prabhakar2reddy/  | https://x.com/prabhakar2reddy | http://openfx.com/  About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry.   Whether you’re building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNKBVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

    50 min
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The future of finance is digital. Welcome to Money Code, the show that decodes stablecoins and the evolution of programmable money for builders, investors, and decision-makers. Each week, join hosts Chuk Okpalugo, Author of Stablecoin Blueprint and Raj Parekh, Head of Payments/Stablecoins at Monad Foundation as they break down the systems and strategies of seasoned operators in the space, revealing the insights you need for better build and buy decisions.

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  • Creator
    Stablecon
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    29
  • Rating
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    © Stablecon
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