MS-Perspektive - The Multiple Sclerosis Podcast

Nele von Horsten

In the MS-Perspektive Podcast, I present my view of multiple sclerosis and show you how you can make the best of the diagnosis. Because a beautiful and fulfilling life is also possible with multiple sclerosis. Here you will find information and strategies on how you can actively influence your course. In addition, I publish solo articles with my experiences, interview experts and on various topics related to living with MS as well as other affected people. In addition, there are a few episodes that serve the relaxation, positive attitude and stimulation.

  1. 6d ago

    AI for MS. How the CLAIMS Project Could Transform MS Care – with Prof. Friedemann Paul

    In this episode, Prof. Friedemann Paul from Charité – Universitätsmedizin Berlin, Germany, explains how the European CLAIMS project aims to improve multiple sclerosis care through AI-assisted decision support. CLAIMS brings together MRI, OCT, blood biomarkers such as neurofilament light chain, clinical data and patient-reported outcomes to support more precise predictions of MS progression. This episode is supported by the European Charcot Foundation. We talk about precision medicine, RAW and PIRA progression, trust in AI, clinical validation, access, reimbursement and what it takes to bring such a tool into everyday neurological care. A key message of the episode: AI should support neurologists and shared decision making — not replace them. You can find the written interview here: https://ms-perspektive.de/172-claims/ Topics covered What CLAIMS aims to achieve for people with MS Why precision medicine matters in multiple sclerosis How MRI, OCT, biomarkers and patient-reported outcomes can be integrated RAW and PIRA progression explained Why AI will not replace neurologists How trust, transparency and data quality influence AI-supported care Validation, approval, reimbursement and implementation in daily practice How people with MS and clinicians can stay updated or get involved Resources mentioned CLAIMS project: https://www.claims.ms/ PROCLAIM study: https://www.claims.ms/proclaim/ European Charcot Foundation – CLAIMS initiative: https://www.charcot-ms.org/initiatives/claims-clinical-impact-through-ai-assisted-ms-care RECLAIM study protocol: https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/neurology/articles/10.3389/fneur.2025.1557947/full PROCLAIM study: https://clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT07032246 icometrix / icobrain ms: https://www.icometrix.com/multiple-sclerosis What message would you like to leave with our listeners today? Prof. Friedemann Paul: There is hope for better management of the disease. We desperately need this because more and more people are being diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. And we need more and better data. If you have time and resources, please consider contributing to research. This could be an observational study, a therapeutic trial, a study on lifestyle or another local research project. It is really important. We can only improve outcomes in multiple sclerosis if we do more research. --- See you soon and try to make the best out of your life, Nele For more information and positive thoughts, subscribe to my newsletter for free. Click here for an overview of all podcast episodes published so far.

    35 min
  2. Jun 17

    The Gut-Brain Axis in Multiple Sclerosis. Interview with Prof. Dr. Anne-Katrin Pröbstel

    The gut–brain axis in multiple sclerosis is an exciting field of research that connects the gut microbiome, immune system and central nervous system. In this interview, Prof. Dr. Anne-Katrin Pröbstel explains how B cells, especially IgA-producing B cells, may influence inflammation in MS and why not all immune cells are harmful. She also discusses what current research can and cannot yet tell us about diet, vitamin D, smoking and future treatment approaches. You can find the interview to read here: https://ms-perspektive.de/en/171-proebstel/ You'll learn: What the gut–brain axis means in multiple sclerosis. How B cells and IgA may be involved in MS. Why the gut microbiome is important for MS research. What role diet, fiber, vitamin D and smoking may play. Why much of this work is still basic research. How future therapies may become more targeted. Resources mentioned: www.proebstellab.com German Multiple Sclerosis Society Swiss Multiple Sclerosis Society National MS Society UKB NewsRoom - Bonn, Germany Is there anything you would like listeners to take away? Dr. Anne-Katrin Pröbstel: The audience is probably very diverse. Some listeners may live with MS themselves, others may be relatives, caregivers or professionals interested in the topic. What I would like to say is this: I have great respect for people living with MS and for the way they deal with this disease. At the same time, I believe that scientific progress can offer hope. Many physicians and researchers are working to better understand MS and to develop improved therapies. Progress is not always fast, but it is moving forward step by step. I would like to encourage people affected by MS to stay hopeful. --- See you soon and try to make the best out of your life, Nele For more information and positive thoughts, subscribe to my newsletter for free. Click here for an overview of all podcast episodes published so far.

    19 min
  3. Jun 10

    Vaccinations and MS – What You Need to Know with Dr. Thomas Grüter

    In this episode, Nele talks with neurologist Dr. Thomas Grüter about vaccinations and multiple sclerosis. The original interview was published in German in December 2024. This English version has been translated and adapted for an international audience, because healthcare systems, vaccination schedules, reimbursement rules, and official recommendations differ from country to country. Dr. Grüter explains why infections can be more challenging for people with MS, how vaccinations may help reduce certain risks, and why timing is especially important when disease-modifying therapies are involved. He also discusses common myths, the difference between inactivated and live vaccines, and vaccination planning around pregnancy, breastfeeding, and MS treatment. Please always check the recommendations in your own country and discuss your personal vaccination plan with your healthcare professional team, including your neurologist. Topics covered in this episode: Why vaccinations matter for people with MS Common myths about vaccines and autoimmune diseases Inactivated vaccines versus live vaccines How MS therapies may influence vaccine response The best timing for vaccinations before or during MS treatment Vaccination planning around pregnancy and breastfeeding Where to find reliable vaccination information Resources mentioned: VAC-MAC project: https://www.vac-mac.de Blog article: https://ms-perspektive.com/170-vaccinations/ Please note: This podcast provides general information and encouragement. It does not replace medical advice. Vaccination recommendations may vary internationally, so please follow the guidance in your own country and speak with your healthcare team. Final message Dr. Thomas Grüter: Do not let myths discourage you. Vaccinations are one of the great achievements of modern medicine. They can provide effective protection against serious diseases. For people with MS, this protection can be especially important. Talk to your healthcare team, ask questions, and make informed decisions based on evidence rather than fear. --- See you soon and try to make the best out of your life, Nele For more information and positive thoughts, subscribe to my newsletter for free. Click here for an overview of all podcast episodes published so far.

    16 min
  4. Jun 3

    Multiple Sclerosis in Nepal. Diagnosis, Treatment and Access to Care

    In this episode, Nele speaks with Dr. Ayush Chandra and Dr. Avinash Chandra about multiple sclerosis in Nepal. They explain why MS is still often diagnosed late, how limited access to MRI, neurologists and treatment affects people in rural and mountainous regions, and why awareness is so important for earlier diagnosis. The conversation also highlights the work of the Multiple Sclerosis Society of Nepal, advocacy for more affordable medication, and the hope for stronger international collaboration to improve MS care in low-resource settings. You can read through the interview here: https://ms-perspektive.com/169-ms-in-nepal Topics covered in this episode: Why MS has long been overlooked in Nepal How common MS appears to be and why reliable data is still limited Typical barriers to diagnosis, including MRI costs and lack of specialists Rural access challenges and the role of geography Treatment options in Nepal, including rituximab and adapted strategies The work and advocacy of the Multiple Sclerosis Society of Nepal Why awareness, education, telemedicine and local research matter Messages of hope for people with MS and their families Resources: Multiple Sclerosis Society of Nepal MS International Federation --- See you soon and try to make the best out of your life, Nele For more information and positive thoughts, subscribe to my newsletter for free. Click here for an overview of all podcast episodes published so far.

    58 min
  5. May 27

    #168: From Fragmented Care to Connected Care: The MS360° Approach with Dr. Isabel Voigt

    In this episode, Dr. Isabel Voigt from the MS Center Dresden introduces the MS360° approach, a digital-first hybrid care model designed to make multiple sclerosis care more continuous, proactive, and personalized. She explains why today's MS care can feel fragmented, how important changes may be missed between appointments, and how digital tools such as apps, wearables, patient-reported outcomes, and telemedicine could support earlier detection of disease progression. We also talk about the role of real-world data, artificial intelligence, digital twins, and patient participation in shaping the future of MS care. A special focus is placed on improving access to specialized care for people living outside larger cities. You can read through the interview here: https://ms-perspektive.de/en/168-ms360 Topics covered in this episode: Why MS care often feels fragmented How MS360° connects digital monitoring with in-person care The role of apps, wearables, and telemedicine Earlier detection of disease worsening How real-world data can support research and personalized treatment What artificial intelligence and digital twins mean for people with MS Why patient participation is key The future of connected, equitable MS care Links mentioned and further reading Original MS360° paper in npj Digital Medicine: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41746-026-02461-4 Dr. Isabel Voigt on LinkedIn: https://de.linkedin.com/in/isabel-voigt-77b6b2357 Multiple Sclerosis Living Lab Dresden: https://msz.uniklinikum-dresden.de/en/zkn/ms-living-lab #100: Digital Twins in MS Care with Prof. Tjalf Ziemssen: https://ms-perspektive.de/en/100-digital-twin/ #104: Leveraging AI in MS Care and Shared Decision-Making: https://ms-perspektive.de/en/104-ai-in-ms-care/ #158: Shared Decision Making in Multiple Sclerosis: https://ms-perspektive.de/en/158-rueffer/ #050: Future Treatment of MS with Prof. Tjalf Ziemssen: https://ms-perspektive.de/en/50-tjalf-ziemssen/ --- See you soon and try to make the best out of your life, Nele For more information and positive thoughts, subscribe to my newsletter for free. Click here for an overview of all podcast episodes published so far.

    33 min
  6. May 20

    Living with MS: Fatigue, Walking & Energy — Insights from Sanam

    In episode #167, Sanam Saeedi shares her perspective on living with MS, fatigue, walking and energy. Diagnosed in 2019, she explains how symptoms such as foot drop, balance issues and fatigue changed her daily life — and why pushing through is not always the best answer. As a neurological movement and fatigue coach, Sanam focuses on awareness, pacing, stabilization, strengthening and tracking. Her message is practical and encouraging: MS requires strategy, not just motivation. By understanding patterns in sleep, stress, nutrition, energy and movement, people with MS can make small, sustainable changes that support confidence and quality of life. Here you can find the complete shortened interview transcript. Topics covered Sanam's diagnosis and personal journey with MS Why MS fatigue and movement are closely connected Foot drop, balance issues and gait changes Why compensation can increase fatigue Fatigue pacing and energy management Small everyday changes for more control Good days, bad days and symptom tracking Rebuilding body trust after setbacks Movement confidence and living well with MS Related episodes and resources mentioned Alan Kalron: movement, balance and training strategies in MS Anthony Feinstein: staying physical, social and cognitive active Isabel Voigt and MS360°: holistic, whole-person MS care More on ms-perspektive.de: fatigue management, pacing, gait, balance, foot drop, body trust and movement confidence What would you like to leave our listeners with today? Sanam Saeedi: Trust the process. I want people to believe that they can improve. It may not happen quickly. It may take time and consistency. But improvement is possible. You do not have to do everything at once. Start where you are. Learn your patterns. Make small changes. Keep going. How and where can interested people find you online? Website: https://lalikhealthandwellness.coachesconsole.com/welcome-let-s-get-started-html LinkedIn: Sanam Saeedi | LinkedIn Instagram: Instagram TikTok: @lalik_movement_coach YouTube: (2) Lalik Neuro Coach – YouTube Work email: s.saeedi@lalikhealthandwellness.com --- See you soon and try to make the best out of your life, Nele For more information and positive thoughts, subscribe to my newsletter for free. Click here for an overview of all podcast episodes published so far.

    29 min
  7. May 6

    MS Doesn't Define Me – How Patti Bevilacqua Turned Multiple Sclerosis into a Life of Purpose

    What does it really mean to live a meaningful life with multiple sclerosis? In this episode, Patti Bevilacqua shares her deeply personal journey after being diagnosed with MS at just 22 years old. Instead of trying to "push through," she chose a different path—one shaped by self-awareness, resilience, and intentional living. Today, Patti is a speaker and advocate for people with invisible challenges. In this conversation, she opens up about identity shifts, career changes, and why MS does not define who she is. 👉 Read the full blog article here: https://ms-perspektive.com/165-patti 🔍 Topics covered in this episode: Patti's MS diagnosis at age 22 Early symptoms and first reactions Letting go of a dream career Living without disease-modifying therapies Navigating uncertainty in professional life Identity shifts and invisible challenges Becoming an advocate and public speaker Mindset, resilience, and purpose Why "MS doesn't define me" Living a meaningful life beyond diagnosis 🔗 Resources & Links: Patti Bevilacqua Website: https://patti-bevilacqua.com Newsletter: https://pattibevilacqua.substack.com LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/patti-bevilacqua Instagram: https://instagram.com/fearlesswithms --- See you soon and try to make the best out of your life, Nele For more information and positive thoughts, subscribe to my newsletter for free. Click here for an overview of all podcast episodes published so far.

    49 min

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In the MS-Perspektive Podcast, I present my view of multiple sclerosis and show you how you can make the best of the diagnosis. Because a beautiful and fulfilling life is also possible with multiple sclerosis. Here you will find information and strategies on how you can actively influence your course. In addition, I publish solo articles with my experiences, interview experts and on various topics related to living with MS as well as other affected people. In addition, there are a few episodes that serve the relaxation, positive attitude and stimulation.

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