17 episodes

James and Oliver Phelps (aka Fred and George Weasley) talk to a star-studded selection of friends, colleagues and personal heroes who stepped into the limelight at a young age, and find out what “normal” means to them.
As identical twins who grew up on the Harry Potter film set as Fred and George Weasley, you could never say that the pair had a “normal” start to life. But recently, they’ve been thinking: what does “normal” mean anyway?
Ready your ears for behind-the-scenes Potter revelations; outrageous rants; frank conversations about mental health; and even the odd, ‘did-you-know?’

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(Formerly the Double Trouble podcast)

Normal Not Normal Stabl

    • Society & Culture
    • 4.9 • 447 Ratings

James and Oliver Phelps (aka Fred and George Weasley) talk to a star-studded selection of friends, colleagues and personal heroes who stepped into the limelight at a young age, and find out what “normal” means to them.
As identical twins who grew up on the Harry Potter film set as Fred and George Weasley, you could never say that the pair had a “normal” start to life. But recently, they’ve been thinking: what does “normal” mean anyway?
Ready your ears for behind-the-scenes Potter revelations; outrageous rants; frank conversations about mental health; and even the odd, ‘did-you-know?’

Stabl production

(Formerly the Double Trouble podcast)

    Tom Hopper

    Tom Hopper

    In this episode we talk to Umbrella Academy actor Tom Hopper.

    Tom has appeared in all our favourite shows, from Game of Thrones to Merlin and Black Sails. He’s known for being 6 foot 5, ripped, and the nicest man in show business.

    We find out how Arnold Schwarzenegger inspired Tom to rebel against his drama teachers, how his son’s autism diagnosis changed his definition of ‘normal’ and just how much of his huge Umbrella Academy character is prosthetic.

    Tom and his wife Laura have shared their experiences of adjusting to life with their son Freddie’s autism diagnosis on their YouTube channel The Hopper Family:

    He also co-hosts the brilliant Earth Locker podcast with Umbrella Academy co-star Robert Sheehan and TV producer Byron Knight. Have a listen here.

    Tom’s ‘3am Questions’:
    Favourite book - Genius Foods by Max Lugevere
    Favourite song - Love in an Elevator by Aerosmith 
    Favourite film - Back to the Future II

    We want to hear from you. If you have a brilliant 'Did You Know?' fact, a question for us, a jingle you’ve written or a voice note you want to share, get in touch. We’ll choose a few messages and include them in the audio version of the podcast every episode. You can tweet us your message using the hashtag #normalnotnormal or email us at normalnotnormalpodcast@gmail.com 

    Remember, if you’re sending us a voice note or jingle and you’re under eighteen, please get permission from a parent or guardian.

    Follow us on Twitter:
    @OliverPhelps     
    @James_Phelps
    @Tomhopperhops

    Normal Not Normal is a Stabl production.
    Produced by Alice Homewood.
    Music: 'Not Normal' by Sebastian Forslund, 'Bobby Swing' by The Bladwerk Band and ‘Someday You’ll Understand’ by Marc Toboel.
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    • 1 hr 5 min
    Mercedes Varnado aka Sasha Banks

    Mercedes Varnado aka Sasha Banks

    In this episode we talk to WWE pro-wrestler Mercedes Varnado, aka Sasha Banks. 

    Mercedes was named Sports Illustrated’'s top Superstar of 2020, and she’s just as impressive outside the ring. Check out the hit Star Wars series The Mandalorian on Disney Plus to see Mercedes making her acting debut as Koska Reeves.

    As a child, Mercedes was ‘extremely shy’ with ‘no friends’. We find out what it took for her to harness her fear and become one of WWE’s most confident wrestlers. 

    We ask what her mum thinks about her life in the ring, hear how she almost missed the phone call of her career and learn why growing up with an autistic brother taught her to see the world differently.

    Whether you’re already into wrestling or not, Mercedes can teach us all a thing or two about following our dreams.

    Mercedes' ‘3am Questions’:

    Favourite book - The Alchemist by Paul Coelho 
    Favourite song - Alright by Kendrick Lamar
    Favourite film - Oldboy

    Mercedes and her husband, WWE costume designer Sarath Ton, support the Soles 4 Souls charity, which aims to provide every homeless child in the USA with a new pair of shoes. You can donate or find out more at:

    https://soles4souls.org/

    We want to hear from you. If you have a brilliant 'Did You Know?' fact, a question for us, a jingle you’ve written or a voice note you want to share, get in touch! We’ll choose a few messages and include them in the audio version of the podcast every episode. You can tweet us your message using the hashtag #normalnotnormal or email us at normalnotnormalpodcast@gmail.com 

    Remember, if you’re sending us a voice note or jingle and you’re under eighteen, please get permission from your parents or guardian.

    Follow us on Twitter:
    @OliverPhelps     
    @James_Phelps
    @SashaBanksWWE

    Normal Not Normal is a Stabl production.
    Produced by Alice Homewood.
    Music 'Not Normal' by Sebastian Forslund and 'Bobby Swing' by The Bladwerk Band
    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    • 59 min
    Katie Leung

    Katie Leung

    In this episode we talk to our old friend Katie Leung. At the age of seventeen Katie joined the Harry Potter cast for the fourth film, The Goblet of Fire, as Harry’s love interest, Cho Chang.

    We ask her what it was like to have the nation’s attention as she gave Harry his first kiss, how she dealt with the paparazzi on her doorstep and we reminisce about some memorable nights out at a black metal bar in Switzerland.

    Since Harry Potter, Katie has appeared in a series of brilliant films and TV dramas alongside legends like Jackie Chan, Hugh Laurie and Pierce Brosnan. She is also a phenomenal photographer and a passionate trans and womxn’s rights activist.

    Katie is an ambassador for the My Body Back Project, which supports victims in the aftermath of rape and sexual assault. You can donate or find out more at:

    http://www.mybodybackproject.com/

    We want to hear from you. If you have a brilliant 'Did You Know?' fact, a question for us, a jingle you’ve written or a voice note you want to share, get in touch! We’ll choose one or two messages and include them in the audio version of the podcast every episode. You can tweet us your message using the hashtag #normalnotnormal or email us at normalnotnormalpodcast@gmail.com 

    Follow us on Twitter:
    @OliverPhelps     
    @James_Phelps

    Normal Not Normal is a Stabl production.
    Produced by Alice Homewood.
    Music 'Not Normal' by Sebastian Forslund and 'Bobby Swing' by The Bladwerk Band
    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    • 54 min
    Mara Wilson

    Mara Wilson

    Few people know more about growing up in the limelight than our first guest, Mara Wilson. 

    Mara starred in the ‘90s blockbusters Mrs Doubtfire, Miracle on 34th Street and Matilda... all before the age of ten. 

    But when you’ve grown up meeting the Queen and going to parties at Danny DeVito’s house, is it possible to have a ‘normal’ adult life?

    Find out how Mara’s parents kept her grounded, how she coped with OCD after the loss of her mother and which Harry Potter actor Mara swears is her double.

    In this episode we discuss mental health struggles. There’s no shame in asking for help. 

    Mara supports these charities:

    The International OCD Foundation https://iocdf.org/

    Okay to Say https://www.okaytosay.org/ 

    Project UROK https://projecturok.org/ 

    Girls Write Now https://www.girlswritenow.org 

    Normal Not Normal is a Stabl production.
    Produced by Alice Homewood.
    Music 'Not Normal' by Sebastian Forslund.
    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    • 1 hr 4 min
    We Have News

    We Have News

    We have news - The Double Trouble podcast is now called Normal Not Normal.
    The new season kicks off on 1st January, 2021.
    Expect the same high-jinx as last season with the usual 'Did You Knows?' and an array of (very) special guests.
    It takes all sorts to make the world go round. In this podcast we discuss what "normal" means to us and to everyone else we encounter along the way.
    We hope you enjoy!

    Normal Not Normal is a Stabl production.
    Produced by Alice Homewood.
    Music 'Not Normal' by Sebastian Forslund.
    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    • 2 min
    Season Highlights

    Season Highlights

    In todays last episode of the season we pick out some highlights from all of our guests. Johanna Konta, Haley Joel Osment, Bonnie Wright, Luke Youngblood, James Taylor, Tom Felton, Ben Nealon, Keri-anne Payne and Mark Foster.
    A HUGE thank you for supporting our second season. x
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    • 2 hr 27 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
447 Ratings

447 Ratings

nnaaomi ,

Love it

This is my favorite podcast at the moment! Came from Fred and George but staying for James and Oliver 😇

Coconut party26 ,

HEY OLIVER AND JAMES🤩🤩🤩🥳🥳🥳

Duuuuuudddddddeeeeeee!!!Hello guys!!!I am CambriaT,Age 12 and I swear that I am definitely the BIGGEST Harry Potter fan but if others think they are too,okay,we can all be big fans of anything we like!Like me with HarryPotter!Well,if there is any way for Oliver and James to get into contact on anything,PLEASE ANSWER😆😆😆😆(Man I wanna meet you guys!!!)lol...please tell Daniel,Rupert,and Emma that I said hi!Oh,and don’t forget to set off some more Dung Bombs anywhere🤣🤣🤣

dancing_queen:) ,

So good!!

It’s one of my favorite podcasts! James and Oliver are so funny, I love it!! The did you knows and rants are the best

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