Okay, But... Birds

Dr. Scott Taylor

Hosted by evolutionary biologist Dr. Scott Taylor, Okay, But... Birds explores the drama, brilliance, and science behind bird life. Each snackable 30-minute episode blends smart storytelling, expert interviews, and a touch of humor to reveal how birds shape our world . No jargon. No binoculars required. Just real science, quirky insights, and bird-brained drama you’ll want to share at brunch. Because birds aren’t background. Birds are cool.

  1. Okay, but why put eggs in another bird’s basket?

    4D AGO

    Okay, but why put eggs in another bird’s basket?

    What if the secret to raising more babies was to never raise a single one yourself? Dr. Chris Balakrishnan, Associate Adjunct Professor of Biology at East Carolina University and co-founder of Nerd Nite, has spent his career studying the strangest birds on the planet: the ones that outsource parenthood entirely. In this episode you'll hear about: The evolutionary arms race between brood parasites and their hosts, from mimetic eggs to alien-looking chick mouth patternsHow the "password hypothesis" explains how brown-headed cowbirds avoid imprinting on the wrong speciesWhy host-switching in African parasitic finches can drive the rapid formation of new species All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows: Brown-headed Cowbird audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML94262Brown-headed Cowbird audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML516718Redhead audio contributed by Jessie Berry, ML139672Canvasback audio contributed by Arthur A. Allen, ML3537Greater Honeyguide audio contributed by Mike Andersen, ML140981Pin-tailed Whydah audio contributed by Myles E. W. North, ML14489Village Indigobird audio contributed by Myles E. W. North, ML14484Zebra Finch (Australian) audio contributed by Vicki Powys, ML226233Prothonotary Warbler audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML85158Kirtland's Warbler audio contributed by Rudolph Little, ML13982

    31 min
  2. Okay, but what makes a yard a bird paradise?

    MAR 19

    Okay, but what makes a yard a bird paradise?

    Most people picture a bird-friendly yard and imagine feeder, birdbath, maybe a decorative birdhouse with mortgage vibes. And feeders are great. But a feeder can give you the illusion of helping birds without creating the thing birds need most: habitat. In this episode, Dr. Doug Tallamy, Professor in the Department of Entomology and Wildlife Ecology at the University of Delaware, joins Scott to explain why your yard is conservation infrastructure in disguise, and what it actually takes to turn it into a place birds can live, breed, and thrive. In this episode you'll hear about: Why "plant natives" is just the beginning, and which keystone plants actually move the needle for birdsThe surprising reason a beautiful all-native garden can still function like a food desertWhat Homegrown National Park is, and how your yard fits into a continent-wide conservation strategy Ready to do more than feed birds? Join the Homegrown National Park pledge at homegrownnationalpark.org and start shifting your patch of earth. All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows: Chestnut-sided warbler audio contributed by Jay McGowan, ML191085Northern parula audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML79471Carolina chickadee audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML100756Oriental pied-hornbill audio contributed by Warren Y. Brockelman, ML170843Northern cardinal audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML249823Black-capped chickadee audio contributed by Jay McGowan, ML202239

    24 min
  3. Okay, but how do birds stay warm?

    FEB 26

    Okay, but how do birds stay warm?

    Winter isn’t just “cold” for a bird, it’s a nightly survival math problem: generate enough heat, lose as little as possible, and don’t get eaten while you’re fueling up. In this episode, host Dr. Scott Taylor is joined by Dr. Maria Stager, UMass Amherst, to break down the clever physiology and weird little behaviors that let birds ride out freezing temps, from icy duck feet to “feather puffball” mode to energy-saving torpor. In this episode, you’ll hear about: How birds keep their feet from freezingHow feathers and shivering muscles act like a built-in winter jacketHow birds manage energy overnight, including fat, roosting, and torpor All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows: Dark-eyed Junco audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML94361Purple Martin audio contributed by Arthur A. Allen, ML8086Willow Ptarmigan audio contributed by Leonard J. Peyton, ML50031Common Poorwill audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML191125Snowy Owl audio contributed by Gerrit Vyn, ML138288Ruffed Grouse audio contributed by Bob McGuire, ML216783Mallard audio contributed by Mike Andersen, ML136504Tree Swallow audio contributed by Bob McGuire, ML233306Black-capped Chickadee audio contributed by Jay McGowan, ML202239Redpoll (Common) audio contributed by William V. Ward, ML12745

    31 min
  4. Okay, but why is a bird’s world more colorful?

    FEB 19

    Okay, but why is a bird’s world more colorful?

    E11: Okay, but why is a bird’s world more colorful? Bird vision isn’t just “better than ours,” It’s operating in a different color space, including ultraviolet. In Host Dr. Scott Taylor is joined by Dr. Allison Shultz, Associate Curator at the Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County, to break down what birds can actually see, how scientists measure color in the real world, and why feather color is one of evolution’s most powerful (and misunderstood) tools. In this episode, you’ll hear about: How birds see a whole extra dimension of color (including UV) and why we can’t truly experience “bird vision” without the biology to matchHow feathers make color through pigments and nano-structuresHow studying bird color is changing fast, from spectrophotometers to UV-capable cameras, plus why female coloration and “dirty birds” are reshaping what we think we know All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows: Northern Cardinal audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML249823House Finch audio contributed by William R. Fish, ML12932Guinea Turaco audio contributed by Mike Andersen, ML140992Northern Jacana audio contributed by Gerrit Vyn, ML140224Common Eider audio contributed by Bob McGuire, ML235534Mountain Bluebird audio contributed by Dave Herr, ML47592Palm Tanager audio contributed by Curtis Marantz, ML88937Greater Bird-of-Paradise video contributed by Tim Laman, ML465370King Bird-of-Paradise video contributed by Tim Laman, ML455252Paradise Tanager audio contributed by Curtis Marantz, ML127399 Additional media used with permission under Creative Commons: Plum-throated Cotinga (Cotinga maynana) in Peru image contributed by Harsha Jayaramaiah, CC BY 4.0, via Wikimedia CommonsLovely Cotinga (Cotinga amabilis) image contributed by desertnaturalist, CC BY 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons

    33 min
  5. Okay, but can birds keep up with climate change?

    FEB 12

    Okay, but can birds keep up with climate change?

    Seasons used to feel predictable. Winter showed up, spring arrived on cue, and birds could run their annual schedules like clockwork. But now the timing is weird: early heat, late snow, shifting green-up, and food peaks that don’t always line up. In this episode, host Dr. Scott Taylor is joined by Dr. Morgan Tingley, Professor of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology at UCLA, to unpack what “keeping up” with climate change actually means for birds, how scientists measure it, and what gives birds a fighting chance on a rapidly warming planet. In this episode, you’ll hear about: How birds “keep up” by shifting their ranges to cooler places, and the clearest real-world examples of birds already moving northWhy the story is more complicated than “north and uphill,” including microclimates, precipitation shifts, and the messy reality of predicting habitat changesThe full bird toolkit for coping with climate change: movement, timing (phenology), and even shrinking body size over generations, plus what we can do right now that actually helps birds All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows: Northern Cardinal audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML249823Carolina Wren audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML191224Red-bellied Woodpecker audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML306064Orange-crowned Warbler audio contributed by Bob McGuire, ML206459Orange-crowned Warbler video contributed by Timothy Barksdale, ML402530House Finch audio contributed by William R. Fish, ML12932

    33 min
  6. Okay, but is birdwatching the original Pokémon?

    FEB 5

    Okay, but is birdwatching the original Pokémon?

    Birdwatching, birding, twitching… whatever you call it, it’s got everything: quests, rare finds, elaborate gear, a sprawling universe of characters, and a deeply committed fandom. Sound familiar? In this episode, host Dr. Scott Taylor is joined by NYT best-selling author and Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Ed Yong to explore how modern birding became more accessible than ever (hello, Merlin and eBird), why it can feel like an open-world RPG, and what the Pokémon comparison misses. In this episode, you’ll hear about: How Ed Yong fell into birding after moving to Oakland, and why the “virtuous cycle” of noticing more makes you want to keep lookingWhy Merlin is more than an ID tool, and how eBird functions like “the last good social network” without clout-chasingThe ethics and culture of birding today, from playback debates to the weird social dynamics of rare sightings, plus why birding is such a powerful way to connect to place, community, and change All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows: Oak Titmouse audio contributed by Thomas G. Sander, ML110924Oak Titmouse video contributed by Timothy Barksdale, ML406704Northern Pygmy-Owl (Rocky Mts.) audio contributed by Rob Faucett, ML25653Pine Siskin audio contributed by Matthew D. Medler, ML163369Northern Shrike (American) audio contributed by Lucas DeCicco, ML515306Surf Scoter video contributed by Timothy Barksdale, ML402125

    36 min
4.9
out of 5
76 Ratings

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Hosted by evolutionary biologist Dr. Scott Taylor, Okay, But... Birds explores the drama, brilliance, and science behind bird life. Each snackable 30-minute episode blends smart storytelling, expert interviews, and a touch of humor to reveal how birds shape our world . No jargon. No binoculars required. Just real science, quirky insights, and bird-brained drama you’ll want to share at brunch. Because birds aren’t background. Birds are cool.

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