137 episodes

Pastors’ Talk is a weekly conversation between Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever about practical aspects of the Christian life and pastoral ministry.

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    • Religion & Spirituality
    • 4.9, 418 Ratings

Pastors’ Talk is a weekly conversation between Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever about practical aspects of the Christian life and pastoral ministry.

    Episode 135: On Shepherding: The Work and Character of a Pastor

    Episode 135: On Shepherding: The Work and Character of a Pastor

    • 27 min
    Episode 134: On the Difference between Revival and Revivalism

    Episode 134: On the Difference between Revival and Revivalism

    In his book Revival & Revivalism, Iain Murray defines revival as God using ordinary means to effect extraordinary change. That’s much different than revivalism, which is when man tries to use extraordinary means to effect the same, extraordinary change.

    Can you tell the difference between the two? Is it even possible? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan asks Mark to take a brief tour of church history so that pastors and Christians today can discern the difference between revival—a good thing—and revivalism—a bad thing.

    • 25 min
    Episode 133: On Why Should I Join a Church?

    Episode 133: On Why Should I Join a Church?

    Have you ever met a growing Christian who is self-consciously choosing not to join a church? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about the vital necessity of joining a local church.

    For more on this topic, check out Mark’s new mini-book in the Church Questions series: "Why Should I Join a Church?"

    • 20 min
    Episode 132: On Teaching Your Church about Issues Related to Race (with Jeff Brown, James Miles, and Mark Vroegop)

    Episode 132: On Teaching Your Church about Issues Related to Race (with Jeff Brown, James Miles, and Mark Vroegop)

    Should pastors try to educate their church about issues related to race and racism? If so, how?

    In this Pastors’ Talk episode, Jonathan Leeman chats with three staff members of College Park Church—Mark Vroegop, Jeff Brown, and James Miles—about what they’ve done, how they’ve done it, and why the journey is worth whatever difficulties it brings.

    • 42 min
    Episode 131: On Pastoring Amidst National Trauma (with Garrett Kell)

    Episode 131: On Pastoring Amidst National Trauma (with Garrett Kell)

    The past few weeks have been hard. People are grieving and angry, scared and confused.

    How should pastors lead and love their people during a national trauma? Jonathan Leeman and Garrett Kell discuss.

    • 46 min
    Episode 130: On How Can I Love Church Members with Different Politics (with Andy Naselli)

    Episode 130: On How Can I Love Church Members with Different Politics (with Andy Naselli)

    • 26 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
418 Ratings

418 Ratings

Etjohnson1 ,

A calm voice in trying times

As a church planting missionary in a foreign country these podcasts have been a tremendous encouragement in difficult days.

Lawson Stancil ,

Great podcast

This podcast has been super helpful in thinking about the life of church in light of the Bible. Grateful for Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman and their love for Christ and his church.

SalvadorBlanco ,

The best for the Church

These brothers have encouraged me so much. They also get me thinking a ton on biblical ecclesiology. I hope this podcast continues for years to come.

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