Perceived Value

Sarah Rachel Brown

Perceived Value is a podcast hosted by artist and journalist Sarah Rachel Brown, featuring radically transparent conversations about the financial and logistical realities of life as a working artist. Since 2017, the podcast has shared candid stories from makers, curators, and creative professionals worldwide, uncovering the behind-the-scenes challenges and strategies that shape sustainable artistic careers.

  1. A Return to Colombia: Jeweler & Author Nicolás Estrada

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    A Return to Colombia: Jeweler & Author Nicolás Estrada

    In the 87th episode of Perceived Value, host Sarah Rachel Brown is just outside Medellín, Colombia, recording from the family home and studio of contemporary jeweler and author Nicolás Estrada. Nicolás and Sarah first connected on social media in 2018, when Nicolás was living in Barcelona, and Sarah was in Philadelphia, PA. Their online friendship led them to meet in person during Munich Jewellery Week that year, and all these years later, they have reconnected in Colombia. When Sarah returned to Medellín to work on theCONNECTOR Exhibition, she took up Nicolás’s offer to host her and record a podcast interview. The two friends discuss Nicolás’s upbringing in Colombia during the height of violence in the late 1980s and early 1990s, being sent to the United States to study business and marketing, and navigating education, language, and identity abroad. Nicolás shares about his familial expectations to follow a path to financial success and how a later move to Barcelona led him to discover contemporary jewelry and choose a creative path. Listen to this intimate conversation between friends about what it means to live within one’s means as an artist, redefine wealth beyond money, and use jewelry to process anger, politics, and personal history. Nicolás offers insight into how he developed multiple bodies of work—commercial, artistic, and experimental—to support himself, and into the origin of his influential jewelry books, where an unpaid opportunity grew into a long-term publishing practice rooted in connection and service to the field. Towards the end of their conversation, Nicolás reflects on returning to Colombia after more than two decades abroad, on grief and inheritance, and on settling into a slower rhythm of life. 🎧 This episode is sponsored by SNAG Metalsmith, the publication of the Society of North American Goldsmiths (SNAG). Subscribe and save 25% with code VALUE25 atsnagmetalsmith.org. SUPPORT PERCEIVED VALUE: Explore How SUBSCRIBE: Add Value to your Inbox FOLLOW YOUR HOST: @sarahrachelbrown FOLLOW THE PODCAST: @perceivedvalue FOLLOW OUR GUEST: @nicolasestradajeweler

    1h 32m
  2. 10/30/2025

    Never Letting the Craft Go: Marcela Rozo of Please Rain

    In the 86th episode of Perceived Value, host Sarah Rachel Brown records from Bogotá, Colombia, where she visits Marcela Rozo, artist, designer, and founder of the textile brand Please Rain. With an unconventional background that combines economics, anthropology, and design, Marcela left a stable career in public policy to follow her passion for craft and handmaking. Their conversation explores the long and winding path from economist to maker; how Marcela rebuilt her career around textiles, founded her own rainwear label, and became one of the longest-standing residents at Materia Prima Escuela de Joyería. She reflects on motherhood, entrepreneurship, and the delicate balance between creative fulfillment and financial sustainability. Together, they discuss the intersections of craft, community, and education and how Marcela’s collaborative workshops with Materia Prima continue to blur the boundaries between textiles, ceramics, and jewelry. 📍 CONNECTOR: Jewelry as a Language of Connection opens November 15, 2025, at Gallery Loupe in Montclair, New Jersey—just ahead of New York City Jewelry Week. 🎧 This episode is sponsored by SNAG Metalsmith, the publication of the Society of North American Goldsmiths (SNAG). Subscribe and save 25% with code VALUE25 at snagmetalsmith.org. FOLLOW YOUR HOST: @sarahrachelbrown FOLLOW THE PODCAST: @perceivedvalue FOLLOW OUR GUEST: www.pleaserain.co https://www.instagram.com/pleaseraincoats/ https://www.instagram.com/rozo.mar/

    57 min
  3. 10/08/2025

    My First Connection: Ana María Jiménez of Taller sin Borde

    In the 83rd episode of Perceived Value, host Sarah Rachel Brown begins her travels through Colombia with an in-depth conversation with Ana María Jiménez of Taller sin Bordes and the co-curator of the CONNECTOR exhibition. Broadcast from Medellín, this episode marks the start of Season 9: CONNECTOR, recorded during Sarah’s early 2025 travels across Colombia while studying Spanish and living as a digital nomad. What began as a one-way ticket evolved into one of the most ambitious projects of her career: an international exhibition and podcast series exploring the lives and practices of Colombian jewelry artists. Ana María shares how her background in architecture and fine arts informs her jewelry practice, which bridges the object, body, and space through a deeply intentional and experimental approach. The two discuss her creative space Taller sin Borde (“Workshop Without Borders”), her research project Volver al Proceso, and how she reconstructs pre-Hispanic goldsmithing techniques using stone tools, clay molds, and lost-wax casting. Their conversation explores the cultural differences between Colombia and the U.S., the realities of working as an independent artist, and the freedom that comes from defining success on one's own terms. Together, Sarah and Ana María reflect on what it means to build a sustainable creative life rooted in curiosity, care, and connection. 📍 CONNECTOR: Jewelry as a Language of Connection opens November 15, 2025, at Gallery Loupe in Montclair, New Jersey—just ahead of New York City Jewelry Week. 🎓 To U.S.-based listeners: Ana María will be a visiting artist at The Bench Jewelry Studio in Pawtucket, Rhode Island, on November 7–8, teaching her workshop Exploring Alternative Casting and Forging, where participants will learn pre-Hispanic metalsmithing techniques. 🎧 This episode is sponsored by SNAG Metalsmith, the publication of the Society of North American Goldsmiths (SNAG). Subscribe and save 25% with code VALUE25 at snagmetalsmith.org.

    1h 23m
  4. 09/27/2025

    At the Core of It: Penland Core Fellowship Then & Now with Brandon Lopez

    It's been well over a year since this interview was recorded, and it's finally seeing the light of day. Life happens - projects come up, and this wonderful conversation and a handful of others were recorded in 2023/2024 and never released. This backlog of recordings is Season 8 of the podcast: Light Of Day. This conversation focuses on the Penland School of Craft Core Fellowship. Since recording, the program has evolved, and certain aspects we discuss may no longer be accurate. Still, the heart of the fellowship—and its impact on artists—remains at the core of this episode. 2026 applications accepted Jul 15 – Oct 8, 2025. Please review the current program details here ________________________________________ In the 82nd episode of Perceived Value, host Sarah Rachel Brown records from the Penland School of Craft during the 2024 Winter Residency. As the Andrew Glasgow Resident, Sarah was invited to use her time at Penland to interview artists from across the country. Her relationship with Penland goes back to 2011, when she first attended a workshop as a scholarship student, and deepened when she became a Core Fellow from 2013 to 2015. Since launching the podcast, Sarah has often woven her Penland experiences into conversations, with many guests connected to the school or the Core Fellowship. It was only fitting that she finally welcomed a Core Fellow to the mic. In this episode, Sarah speaks with Brandon Lopez, who was in his second year of the fellowship at the time of recording. The two artists sit down and compare their Core Fellowship experiences, discussing how it has shaped Sarah’s own life and career, why Brandon chose a craft school experience over academia, and how the fellowship has evolved to meet the needs of a new generation of artists. OUR GUEST Brandon Lopez is a Mexican American artist creating functional and sculptural work with glass. Originally from Pennsylvania, he first began working with glass in 2013. Lopez attended Tyler School of Art in Philadelphia from 2014-18, where he received his BFA in Glass. Since then, he has assisted classes at craft schools and worked as an assistant for a number of artists. His work combines traditional glass blowing techniques with the aesthetics of art and objects made by ancient civilizations to create sculpture and functional objects. Lopez recently completed the Core Fellowship at Penland School of Craft. He is currently living and working in Asheville, North Carolina. Instagram: @_brandonlopez YOUR HOST Sarah Rachel Brown is an artist, journalist, and curator whose work bridges communities through storytelling, exhibition-making, and cross-cultural dialogue. She is co-curator of CONNECTOR, an international jewelry exhibition and podcast series fostering dialogue with Colombian artists. Since 2017, she has produced Perceived Value, a podcast acclaimed for its transparency on the financial realities of artists’ lives. In addition, she maintains a consulting business in marketing. Follow Sarah on Instagram RATE AND REVIEW US ON APPLE PODCASTS OR WHEREVER YOU LISTEN! $ Support Perceived Value $ Follow the podcast on Instagram The music you hear on Perceived Value is by the Seattle group Song Sparrow Research. All You Need to Know off of their album Sympathetic Buzz. Find them on Spotify!

    1h 22m
  5. 04/01/2025

    All of Their Efforts: Erin S. Daily of Brooklyn Metal Works

    It's been well over a year since this interview was recorded, and it's finally seeing the light of day. Life happens, projects come up, and this wonderful conversation and a handful of others were recorded in 2023/2024 and never released. This backlog of recordings is Season 8 of the podcast, The Light Of Day series. ______________________________________ In the 81st episode of Perceived Value, host Sarah Rachel Brown is at the Penland School of Craft during their Winter Residency program. It’s January of 2024 and Sarah has been invited to Penland as the Andrew Glasgow Resident which afforded her the time and space to record interviews with artists from all over the country. One such artist being Sarah’s friend and peer within the jewelry/metals field, Erin S. Daily.  On a snowy afternoon, the two jewelers took some time to catch up. Although Sarah was very familiar with Erin’s current business, Brooklyn Metal Works, she knew very little about her background. The two discuss Erin’s education and how she found her way to metals/jewelry, Erin’s passion for seeking and building community, her time at the The Arcosanti Project, what brought Erin to NYC, how she met her Brooklyn Metal Works co-founder, and the realities of starting a business in one of the most expensive and competitive cities in the world. ABOUT OUR GUEST: Erin S. Daily is the Co-Founder of Brooklyn Metal Works, a jewelry and metalsmithing studio, educational lab, and exhibition space dedicated to fostering creative practices and community engagement. She builds international connections among artists and makers through exhibitions, artist talks, and discussion groups while providing a dynamic studio environment for artistic growth. Erin is also deeply committed to responsible sourcing in the jewelry industry, advocating for ethical and sustainable practices. She was among the first U.S. jewelers to join the Fairmined Initiative in 2013 and continues this work as a Fairmined Gold licensee and collaborator with the Jewelry Glossary Project. Beyond her studio practice, Erin plays an active role in the jewelry and metalsmithing field, serving on the Advisory Committee for NYC Jewelry Week and contributing to museum exhibitions like 45 Stories in Jewelry: 1947 to Now at the Museum of Arts and Design. She has taught extensively across the Northeast, including at Brooklyn Metal Works and Parsons School of Design, and her artwork has been exhibited internationally. In 2019, she co-founded Specific Gravity, a retail space supporting Brooklyn Metal Works artists while offering a platform for diverse jewelry expressions to engage local audiences. Erin holds a BFA in Metal from the University of Kansas and an MFA in Metal from SUNY New Paltz. https://www.bkmetalworks.com/ https://www.instagram.com/brooklynmetalworks/?hl=en https://specificgravitynyc.com/ https://www.instagram.com/specific_gravity/?hl=en https://www.instagram.com/noblecoral/ RATE AND REVIEW US ON APPLE PODCASTS OR WHEREVER YOU LISTEN! SUPPORT PERCEIVED VALUE! www.patreon.com/perceivedvalue www.perceivedvaluepodcast.com/how-to-support-donate/ Instagram + Facebook: @perceivedvalue Find your Host: Instagram: @sarahrachelbrown The music you hear on Perceived Value is by the Seattle group Song Sparrow Research. All You Need to Know off of their album Sympathetic Buzz. Find them on Spotify!

    1h 29m

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Perceived Value is a podcast hosted by artist and journalist Sarah Rachel Brown, featuring radically transparent conversations about the financial and logistical realities of life as a working artist. Since 2017, the podcast has shared candid stories from makers, curators, and creative professionals worldwide, uncovering the behind-the-scenes challenges and strategies that shape sustainable artistic careers.

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