Plain Talk

Plain Talk is a podcast hosted by Rob Port and Chad Oban focusing on political news and current events in North Dakota. Port is a columnist for the Forum News Service published in papers including the Fargo Forum, Grand Forks Herald, Jamestown Sun, and the Dickinson Press. Oban is a long-time political consultant.

  1. 3D AGO · VIDEO

    633: 'Why not? We have it.' (Video)

    This is the video version of Episode 633 of the Plain Talk podcast. North Dakota has become a destination for investment in building out America's artificial intelligence infrastructure. Specifically, the massive, power-hungry data centers that enable the sort of cloud computing necessary to make AI work. Public Service Commissioner Sheri Haugen-Hoffart, who serves on the triumvirate that oversees things like utility proces and power infrastructure, is enthusiastic about this investment. And, despite some critics saying the data centers will drive up utility prices, she's confident they're a good fit for the state. "AI is here to stay. It's here. So where is their capacity?" she said on this episode of Plain Talk. "North Dakota has a lot of resources to fulfill that. So why not? We have it." "We have good regulatory oversight," she continued. "I think we work well together, and we want to control that AI versus having someone like China or another adversary control our AI. So let's work together. Let's be good stewards and let's control it, and if we have the capacity, let's use it to serve." Haugen-Hoffart said North Dakota has the cheapest electrical rates in the country, and she's confident that would remain the case even with AI data centers coming online. She also pointed out that the power consumption for some of the data centers -- at least those built by Applied Digital, which is working on a major investment near Harwood -- is "interruptable." first-term incumbent also indicated that she will be seeking re-election next year. "My plan right now, absolutely," she said. Haugen-Hoffart was first appointed in 2022 to complete the six-year term current Tax Commissioner Brian Kroshus was elected to. That appointment was confirmed on the statewide ballot in 2024, and now that term is up for re-election again in 2026. On this episode we also discussed North Dakota's gambling boom, which has grown far beyond the state's capacity to regulate it, and whether our state should embrace a new philsophy of promoting from within, as opposed to hiring from outside the state, when it comes to key government leadership positoins. If you want to participate in Plain Talk, just give us a call or text at 701-587-3141. It’s super easy — leave your message, tell us your name and where you’re from, and we might feature it on an upcoming episode.

    54 min
  2. 3D AGO

    633: 'Why not? We have it.'

    North Dakota has become a destination for investment in building out America's artificial intelligence infrastructure. Specifically, the massive, power-hungry data centers that enable the sort of cloud computing necessary to make AI work. Public Service Commissioner Sheri Haugen-Hoffart, who serves on the triumvirate that oversees things like utility proces and power infrastructure, is enthusiastic about this investment. And, despite some critics saying the data centers will drive up utility prices, she's confident they're a good fit for the state. "AI is here to stay. It's here. So where is their capacity?" she said on this episode of Plain Talk. "North Dakota has a lot of resources to fulfill that. So why not? We have it." "We have good regulatory oversight," she continued. "I think we work well together, and we want to control that AI versus having someone like China or another adversary control our AI. So let's work together. Let's be good stewards and let's control it, and if we have the capacity, let's use it to serve." Haugen-Hoffart said North Dakota has the cheapest electrical rates in the country, and she's confident that would remain the case even with AI data centers coming online. She also pointed out that the power consumption for some of the data centers -- at least those built by Applied Digital, which is working on a major investment near Harwood -- is "interruptable." The first-term incumbent also indicated that she will be seeking re-election next year. "My plan right now, absolutely," she said. Haugen-Hoffart was first appointed in 2022 to complete the six-year term current Tax Commissioner Brian Kroshus was elected to. That appointment was confirmed on the statewide ballot in 2024, and now that term is up for re-election again in 2026. On this episode we also discussed North Dakota's gambling boom, which has grown far beyond the state's capacity to regulate it, and whether our state should embrace a new philsophy of promoting from within, as opposed to hiring from outside the state, when it comes to key government leadership positoins. If you want to participate in Plain Talk, just give us a call or text at 701-587-3141. It’s super easy — leave your message, tell us your name and where you’re from, and we might feature it on an upcoming episode. To subscribe to Plain Talk, search for the show wherever you get your podcasts or use one of the links below. Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube | Pocket Casts | Episode Archive

    54 min
  3. 5D AGO

    632: 'A little bit closer to perfect'

    North Dakota's public schools are not perfect, but they are very, very good. Sadly, often thanks to national narratives that have little to do with what's happening in our school districts, that's not always the popular perception the public has. People are left with the impression that kids are being indoctrinated, or in extreme cases even groomed, and that's just not the case. North Dakotans for Public Schools is a new organization aimed at bridging that gap between public perception and reality. Former state Senator Erin Oban is a spokesperson for the organization (and, full disclosure, is also the wife of my co-host Chad Oban). "I don't think our public schools are perfect," she said on this episode of Plain Talk. But she wants the group to drive home the question: "What are we doing to to make them a little bit closer to perfect for the kids in our communities that they serve?" That doesn't just mean making the case for the state's public schools. It also means helping the schools understand the reasonable concerns parents and the public at large have. The goal is to  "build stronger more trusted relationships," Erin Oban said. Though that will include telling some of the positive stories about education, to try and get them on par with the negative things we hear. "The negative catches on so much more than the positive," she said, "and we need to be people who spread good news, not just bad news." Both Chad and I agree that there is a need to turn the temperature down in the debate around our public schools. "The adults have to start acting like adults," Chad said, and I think he's right. We also discussed my recent column about the "tyranny of small rooms," which sees the loud voices of angry people who show up at school board meetings, or on social media, get a lot of attention, even if their views aren't necessarily reflective of the larger public's. If you want to participate in Plain Talk, just give us a call or text at 701-587-3141. It’s super easy — leave your message, tell us your name and where you’re from, and we might feature it on an upcoming episode. To subscribe to Plain Talk, search for the show wherever you get your podcasts or use one of the links below. Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube | Pocket Casts | Episode Archive

    57 min
  4. AUG 21

    631: Back-to-school tax, Trump's Fedorchak endorsement, and cheerleader culture wars

    Should the voters take their case for covering school lunches for all students to the ballot box with an initiated measure? We discussed the issue on this episode of Plain Talk, and co-host Chad Oban made the case for some populism on this issue. "The legislature has had ample opportunity to pass something that over 70% of North Dakotans support," he said, referring to a North Dakota News Cooperative poll from this spring. "What if school districts start charging parents for books, right? Parents across the state would be up in arms if school districts started charging for books," he continued. "To me, it's a no-brainer today. It was a no-brainer yesterday. It was a no-brainer a year ago." President Donald Trump's early endorsement of Rep. Julie Fedorchak's re-election, which hadn't even been officially announced yet, raised some eyebrows. What drove it? It might have something to do with divisive ."I didn't perceive Julie Fedorchak needing Trump to intervene and try to head off a primary challenge," I argued, but it could be about the North Dakota Republican Party, the leadership of which is now in control of a populist faction that doesn't like traditional Republicans very much. That faction has already censured Gov. Kelly Armstrong twice, and at last cycle's state convention, they had enough clout to deny Fedorchak the endorsement, though she went on to win the primary and the general handily. Trump's early endorsement may have been to "warn off the state party," I contend. North Dakotan Blaize Shiek is a cheerleader for the Minnesota Vikings this year, and not everyone likes it. "This isn't about male cheerleaders. This is about a certain type of male cheerleaders. Ones that are very good dancers and not just holding up the pretty girls," Oban said of the critics. "I don't like it when people take it upon themselves to be gatekeepers and to say we're going to gatekeep football or we're going to gatekeep culture and we're going to say you can only do it our way only the way that we want it," I added. "Being weird in all the different wonderful ways we can be weird is not un-American. That's the most American damn thing in the world. What's un-American is you saying there's only one way to be an American." We also discussed North Dakota Health and Human Services Commissioner Pat Traynor's alarmist comments about cell phones, and state Rep. Emily O'Brien's decision to step down and take a job as deputy commissioner in that same department. If you want to participate in Plain Talk, just give us a call or text at 701-587-3141. It’s super easy — leave your message, tell us your name and where you’re from, and we might feature it on an upcoming episode. To subscribe to Plain Talk, search for the show wherever you get your podcasts or use one of the links below. Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube | Pocket Casts | Episode Archive

    51 min
  5. AUG 20

    630: One Big Beautiful Bill Act could lead to 'death spiral' in health insurance

    North Dakota Insurance Commissioner Jon Godfread says North Dakota -- and America, really, since our state is hardly an independent nation -- is on an unsustainable trajectory when it comes to the cost of insurance and health care. On this Plain Talk, Godfread, who is also the current president of the National Association of Insurance Commissioners, argued that Congress, with its much-ballyhooed One Big Beautiful Bill Act, has made things worse. "With what happened in the budget reconciliation bill, I'm really worried about this upcoming open enrollment period." Godread, who is a Republican, argued that some of the provisions in the bill are "really going to harm consumers" and predicts "pretty significant rate increases across the board across the country." He said there is talk of Congress coming back and fixing some of these issues, but that will be too little too late.  "If they look at doing something, changing it in December, well, at that point, I've already gone on, shopped as a consumer, and realized the price is too high. I'm not going back in the last two weeks of the year to say, 'Oh, well, maybe this time they promise it's going to be better.'" Pricing healthy people out of the insurance market would narrow the pool and drive up costs, creating what Godfread described as a "death spiral." "We're on a track right now that is not sustainable, right? I mean, there is no more more to give when you get to health insurance premiums." On an unrelated topic, earlier this year, the state legislature passed a law merging the state's previously independent Securities Department under Godfread's office after controversial Securities Commissioner Karen Tyler went to work for the state's Industrial Commission. That Godfread's office is now in charge of the inquiry into the high-profile dissolution of Epic Companies. Godfread said he couldn't comment on that matter, specifically, but said he was surprised to learn that a restitution fund created by lawmakers to help mitigate those financially harmed by fraud was sitting empty. "Another piece that we found is back in 2019, there was a restitution fund that was created by the legislature for the Securities Department," he said. Under Tyler's leadership, "that fund has never had money put into it. That to me is a big problem." If you want to participate in Plain Talk, just give us a call or text at 701-587-3141. It’s super easy — leave your message, tell us your name and where you’re from, and we might feature it on an upcoming episode. To subscribe to Plain Talk, search for the show wherever you get your podcasts or use one of the links below. Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube | Pocket Casts | Episode Archive

    55 min
3.8
out of 5
81 Ratings

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Plain Talk is a podcast hosted by Rob Port and Chad Oban focusing on political news and current events in North Dakota. Port is a columnist for the Forum News Service published in papers including the Fargo Forum, Grand Forks Herald, Jamestown Sun, and the Dickinson Press. Oban is a long-time political consultant.

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