Pretty Hard Erika Geraerts & Ellen Jenkinson

@lesley__hunter came into Fluff's world for one of our campaign photoshoots and we fell in love with her curiosity, energy, and approach to beauty. In this episode we discuss her experience with beauty over time, through motherhood, work, and yoga, and the journey of connecting and discovering herself.  As a 62-year-old model we get stuck into the idea of 'acting' your age and other labels that are put on women, including terms like pro-age and anti-aging, and what these really mean for women. Finally, we chat about what we want ultimately for the industry.

Please note: this conversation includes topics of abuse and rape, should you wish to skip this episode.

"You’ll care less, strive further, and feel more,” 

Leonie Akhidenor is the host of the Parenthood Podcast, a model, and mother, who was introduced to Fluff via mutual connections. In this conversation we explore her experience as a bi-racial woman growing up in Australia, her journey through pre and post natal depression, and her learnings from hundreds of conversations with other parents, including the tension for some mothers to find their ’sexy’ or to feel good in their ‘new' body after having children. She discusses with us the struggle to find time for self care and how it can result in women feeling as though beauty has taken the back seat.

Whether you have children or not, this episode is a reminder to acknowledge the self you were, the self you are, and the self you want to be.

Listen via the link in bio.

Find Leonie via @leonie.akhidenor and @parenthoodpod

We spoke to Erin Deering a year ago on the podcast and since then, a lot has happened. Erin has had a melanoma removed from her face, her breast implants removed, and has launched her memoir, Hanging by a Thread.

"My face looks like mine again."

We discuss how the last year's events have impacted how she feels about herself and her internal vs external identity, and how she's balancing her growing following with family life and business ambitions. 

Find Erin via @erinkdeering.

Sam Wood is a father, husband, and self-proclaimed 'fitness guy'. Having worked in the health industry for almost 2 decades, we were keen to discuss with Sam the idea of beauty under the lens of aesthetic vs mental and emotional health.

This was a beautiful discussion about how Sam sees and has experienced himself as a man, his role as a father of 4 daughters, and finally his relationship with his wife and their responsibility in the public eye.

Find Sam via @28bysamwood, @thewoodshed_ @thewoodlifepodcast

Jessica Defino is a former editor for the Kardashian-Jenner Apps and a freelance beauty journalist for The New York Times, Vogue, WWD, Allure, and more.
Jessica's writing has influenced Fluff greatly, being beauty-critical content that publications can’t, won’t, or don’t cover. 
In this episode we discuss the idea of beauty behaviours as coping mechanisms, the pressure consumers are under being perceived constantly, and the moral obligation of brands to deal with such.

"If we want to deal with sustainability, we need to address beauty standards, and why we feel compelled to consume so much, and manipulate our bodies so much. If these things are addressed, sustainability will be addressed. There are feelings driving our consumption." 

Find Jessica via her Substack, The Unpublishable. 

Erika & Ellen discuss the series ahead, the current state of the industry, the current state of their personal lives, and what the future of beauty looks like, right now.