Your Profitable Law Firm

Kelley Brubaker
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Guiding law firms to overflowing profits 💰 scaled growth 🌱 and thriving lives 😎 This is your source of business insights and money mindset with a little bit of humor tossed in. Hosted by Kelley Brubaker, CPA who is a business advisor and entrepreneur. Kelley knows there is an easier way to make money as a small business owner and that's what she's here to help you do.

  1. 6D AGO

    Ep 143 | How Burnout Will Kill Your Law Firm Just as Fast as Bankruptcy with Danielle Hendon

    How Burnout Will Kill Your Law Firm Just as Fast as Bankruptcy with Danielle Hendon Host Kelley Brubaker interviews Danielle Hendon, a CPA and fractional CFO who founded Four Corners CFO after leaving public accounting and an oil and gas audit leadership role during the pandemic to build a family-friendly career bringing big-business finance concepts to small business owners, especially law firms.  They discuss how burnout can end a firm as quickly as bankruptcy when owners focus only on practicing law instead of running a business, and how a CFO can act as a strategic partner, accountability support, and financial guide using reliable numbers, cash flow forecasting, and flexible budgets.  They also cover practical boundaries around expenses and tax-related considerations, emphasizing coordination with a firm’s tax professional. Danielle shares a website quiz estimating money law firms may be leaving on the table using utilization and expense benchmarks tied to the “rule of thirds.”  Connect with Danielle:  Website: www.4cornerscfo.com  Email: danielle@4cornerscfo.com  Quiz: https://4cornerscfo.com/how-much-money-is-on-your-table/   Sign up for my free 90-day challenge designed to improve your law firm with one baby step every day for 90 days: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/profitstrong-90   Do you receive my newsletter? Sign up and enjoy access to free templates and checklists that support each podcast episode. Only those who are on the newsletter distribution list will receive this bonus content. Sign up now: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/newsletter-sign-up   📖 Grab my newest book for free (PDF format) here: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/plugging-the-leaks-10-ways-lawyers-waste-money-and-simple-fixes OR buy the Kindle or paperback format here: https://www.amazon.com/Plugging-Leaks-Lawyers-Waste-Simple-ebook/dp/B0FHGCPB6P   🫠 Are you stuck in your law firm? Click here to check out the details about the Your Profitable Law Firm Community today ➝ The first month is FREE (and no credit card required!). Click To Learn More: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/your-profitable-law-firm   🙌 Check out my free resources here ➝ Resources: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/link-in-bio   🎯 Curious to learn how I can help you achieve overflowing profits 💰 scaled growth 🌱 & thriving lives 😎? Schedule a meeting with me by clicking here ➝ Click To Schedule: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/contact   🗣️ Continue the discussion on social!  LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelleybrubaker/ YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@profit.scale.thrive   #attorney #lawyer #profit #scale #thrive #howtogrowalawfirm #CPA #CFO #FractionalCFO #LawFirm #fyp #spotifypodcast #applepodcasts #googlepodcasts #podcast #LawFirmGrowth #LawFirmProfits

    39 min

  2. MAR 4

    Ep 142 | Your Law Firm’s Future Depends on One Decision You’re Avoiding

    AI, Decision Avoidance, and the Entrepreneur Shift Law Firm Owners Must Make Now Kelley Brubaker explains why law firm owners must take responsibility for their firm’s financial future as AI threatens inefficiency and low-leverage work. She describes how many firms are “fine” on paper yet avoid key decisions, leading to stalled profit, delayed owner pay, and rising stress, sharing examples involving skipped distributions, postponed system fixes, delayed invoicing, and a reactive trust account cleanup after a bar inquiry.  Kelley argues most financial issues are emotional, rooted in fear of judgment and getting it wrong, and outlines five shifts to lead like an entrepreneur: decide who you need to become, set goals based on desire, learn in motion, build confidence by doing avoided tasks, and move from approval seeking to service.    Sign up for my free 90-day challenge designed to improve your law firm with one baby step every day for 90 days: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/profitstrong-90   Do you receive my newsletter? Sign up and enjoy access to free templates and checklists that support each podcast episode. Only those who are on the newsletter distribution list will receive this bonus content. Sign up now: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/newsletter-sign-up   📖 Grab my newest book for free (PDF format) here: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/plugging-the-leaks-10-ways-lawyers-waste-money-and-simple-fixes OR buy the Kindle or paperback format here: https://www.amazon.com/Plugging-Leaks-Lawyers-Waste-Simple-ebook/dp/B0FHGCPB6P   🫠 Are you stuck in your law firm? Click here to check out the details about the Your Profitable Law Firm Community today ➝ The first month is FREE (and no credit card required!). Click To Learn More: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/your-profitable-law-firm   🙌 Check out my free resources here ➝ Resources: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/link-in-bio   🎯 Curious to learn how I can help you achieve overflowing profits 💰 scaled growth 🌱 & thriving lives 😎? Schedule a meeting with me by clicking here ➝ Click To Schedule: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/contact   🗣️ Continue the discussion on social!  LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelleybrubaker/ YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@profit.scale.thrive   #attorney #lawyer #profit #scale #thrive #howtogrowalawfirm #CPA #CFO #FractionalCFO #LawFirm #fyp #spotifypodcast #applepodcasts #googlepodcasts #podcast #LawFirmGrowth #LawFirmProfits

    12 min

  3. FEB 25

    Ep 141 | Justin Montgomery Shares How to Build a High-Profit Education Business Without More Client Work

    How to Build a High-Profit Continuing Education Business as a Lawyer | Justin Allan Montgomery Kelley Brubaker hosts Justin Allan Montgomery, a nurse practitioner who created a continuing education course business in 2020, made $50,000 in seven days, scaled it into an eight-figure yearly business, and retired at 39.  He now runs ProCourseStart to teach professionals, including lawyers, how to create continuing education businesses that can generate partially passive, location-independent income with low overhead, low liability, and minimal staffing. Justin explains that the foundation is a clear value proposition and mission tied to solving a specific, meaningful problem, and he outlines common paths for lawyers, including teaching other lawyers, educating clients, or creating courses for other professionals, such as doctors.  He shares that continuing education scales faster than generic courses or coaching because it is required, often tax-deductible, and frequently paid through employer stipends, with strong year-end demand. He identifies common reasons people get stuck, including analysis paralysis and imposter syndrome, and notes that poor momentum is often caused by weak messaging or marketing.  Justin recommends launching new offerings with a time-limited discount, building audience first when possible, and focusing on customer lifetime value by creating multiple courses over time. He says the choice of course platform matters far less than delivering an easy experience and a real transformation. He also addresses AI concerns by emphasizing that learners value the creator’s real experience.  Link mentioned in the episode: www.ProCourseStart.com/podcast/lawfirm  Connect with Justin: Email: justin@procoursestart.com  Website: www.ProCourseStart.com  Phone: (423) 388-5688 LI: https://www.linkedin.com/company/procoursestart/  FB: https://www.facebook.com/people/Pro-Course-Start/61574146510784/  IG: https://www.instagram.com/procoursestart25/  YT: https://www.youtube.com/@ProCourseStart  TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@procoursestart  Sign up for my free 90 day challenge designed to improve your law firm with one baby step every day for 90 days: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/profitstrong-90   Do you receive my newsletter? Sign up and enjoy access to free templates and checklists that support each podcast episode. Only those who are on the newsletter distribution list will receive this bonus content. Sign up now: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/newsletter-sign-up   📖 Grab my newest book for free (PDF format) here: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/plugging-the-leaks-10-ways-lawyers-waste-money-and-simple-fixes OR buy the Kindle or paperback format here: https://www.amazon.com/Plugging-Leaks-Lawyers-Waste-Simple-ebook/dp/B0FHGCPB6P   🫠 Are you stuck in your law firm? Click here to check out the details about the Your Profitable Law Firm Community today ➝ The first month is FREE (and no credit card required!). Click To Learn More: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/your-profitable-law-firm   🙌 Check out my free resources here ➝ Resources: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/link-in-bio   🎯 Curious to learn how I can help you achieve overflowing profits 💰 scaled growth 🌱 & thriving lives 😎? Schedule a meeting with me by clicking here ➝ Click To Schedule: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/contact   🗣️ Continue the discussion on social!  LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelleybrubaker/ YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@profit.scale.thrive #attorney #lawyer #profit #scale #thrive #howtogrowalawfirm #CPA #CFO #FractionalCFO #LawFirm #fyp #spotifypodcast #applepodcasts #googlepodcasts #podcast #LawFirmGrowth #LawFirmProfits

    36 min

  4. FEB 18

    Ep 140 | Law Firm Branding That Converts with Christine Raniets

    Boosting Your Law Firm's Brand Strategy with Christine RanietsIn this exciting episode, Kelley welcomes branding expert Christine Raniets of Perran Design to discuss the critical aspects of branding for law firms. Christine, who specializes in branding, graphic design, and marketing for legal professionals and nonprofits, shares her journey from studying finance to forming her own company. The conversation covers key topics including the importance of messaging and consistency, thought leadership initiatives, and the significance of culturally aligned branding. Christine also offers insights on common branding mistakes, the importance of regular brand evaluations, and how to stand out in a competitive legal market. Whether you're a solo practitioner or a part of a larger firm, this episode is packed with valuable advice on enhancing your firm's brand and attracting the right clients. Tune in to learn how to elevate your law firm's branding strategy!Connect with Christine:Website: https://www.perandesign.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christine-raniets-93203560/Email: craniets@perandesign.com Sign up for my free 90 day challenge designed to improve your law firm with one baby step every day for 90 days: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/profitstrong-90 Do you receive my newsletter? Sign up and enjoy access to free templates and checklists that support each podcast episode. Only those who are on the newsletter distribution list will receive this bonus content. Sign up now: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/newsletter-sign-up 📖 Grab my newest book for free (PDF format) here: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/plugging-the-leaks-10-ways-lawyers-waste-money-and-simple-fixes OR buy the Kindle or paperback format here: https://www.amazon.com/Plugging-Leaks-Lawyers-Waste-Simple-ebook/dp/B0FHGCPB6P 🫠 Are you stuck in your law firm? Click here to check out the details about the Your Profitable Law Firm Community today ➝ The first month is FREE (and no credit card required!). Click To Learn More: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/your-profitable-law-firm 🙌 Check out my free resources here ➝ Resources: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/link-in-bio 🎯 Curious to learn how I can help you achieve overflowing profits 💰 scaled growth 🌱 & thriving lives 😎? Schedule a meeting with me by clicking here ➝ Click To Schedule: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/contact 🗣️ Continue the discussion on social! LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelleybrubaker/YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@profit.scale.thrive #attorney #lawyer #profit #scale #thrive #howtogrowalawfirm #CPA #CFO #FractionalCFO #LawFirm #fyp #spotifypodcast #applepodcasts #googlepodcasts #podcast #LawFirmGrowth #LawFirmProfits

    38 min

  5. FEB 4

    Ep 139 | Reclaiming Your Time as a Law Firm CEO…without letting the firm fall apart with Carol Schultz

    Unlocking CEO Potential with Carol Schultz: Reclaiming Time and Overcoming Founder Syndrome In this episode, Kelley Brubaker talks with Carol Schultz, CEO of Vertical Elevation and columnist for Inc. Magazine. Carol, an experienced recruiter and executive coach, discusses her Chief of Staff Scaffold System, a comprehensive nine-step program designed to help CEOs delegate, manage time effectively, and focus on growth. They explore common challenges law firm owners face, such as founder syndrome and becoming 'hostages' of their own companies. Carol emphasizes the importance of strategy blocks, effective delegation, and the crucial role of a Chief of Staff. Tune in to learn practical advice for transforming from a doer to a leader and the significant benefits of leveraging fractional executives.Connect with Carol:Website: https://verticalelevation.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolbschultz/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/growgreatteams/ Sign up for my free 90 day challenge designed to improve your law firm with one baby step every day for 90 days: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/profitstrong-90 Do you receive my newsletter? Sign up and enjoy access to free templates and checklists that support each podcast episode. Only those who are on the newsletter distribution list will receive this bonus content. Sign up now: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/newsletter-sign-up 📖 Grab my newest book for free (PDF format) here: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/plugging-the-leaks-10-ways-lawyers-waste-money-and-simple-fixes OR buy the Kindle or paperback format here: https://www.amazon.com/Plugging-Leaks-Lawyers-Waste-Simple-ebook/dp/B0FHGCPB6P 🫠 Are you stuck in your law firm? Click here to check out the details about the Your Profitable Law Firm Community today ➝ The first month is FREE (and no credit card required!). Click To Learn More: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/your-profitable-law-firm 🙌 Check out my free resources here ➝ Resources: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/link-in-bio 🎯 Curious to learn how I can help you achieve overflowing profits 💰 scaled growth 🌱 & thriving lives 😎? Schedule a meeting with me by clicking here ➝ Click To Schedule: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/contact 🗣️ Continue the discussion on social! LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelleybrubaker/YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@profit.scale.thrive #attorney #lawyer #profit #scale #thrive #howtogrowalawfirm #CPA #CFO #FractionalCFO #LawFirm #fyp #spotifypodcast #applepodcasts #googlepodcasts #podcast #LawFirmGrowth #LawFirmProfits

    37 min
  6. Ep 138 | How law firms stay profitable and resilient when the market feels unpredictable

    JAN 28

    Ep 138 | How law firms stay profitable and resilient when the market feels unpredictable

    How Law Firms Can Stay Profitable and Resilient in Uncertain MarketsIn this episode, Kelley Brubaker, CPA and owner of Profit Scale Thrive, joins Brittany Hoffman from 8am in a webinar hosted by Above the Law. They discuss strategies for building economic resilience and maintaining profitability for law firms even during market shifts. Key topics include understanding financial statements, managing cash flow, identifying profit leaks, and the importance of financial planning. Sign up for my free 90 day challenge designed to improve your law firm with one baby step every day for 90 days: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/profitstrong-90Do you receive my newsletter? Sign up and enjoy access to free templates and checklists that support each podcast episode. Only those who are on the newsletter distribution list will receive this bonus content. Sign up now: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/newsletter-sign-up📖 Grab my newest book for free (PDF format) here: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/plugging-the-leaks-10-ways-lawyers-waste-money-and-simple-fixes OR buy the Kindle or paperback format here: https://www.amazon.com/Plugging-Leaks-Lawyers-Waste-Simple-ebook/dp/B0FHGCPB6P🫠 Are you stuck in your law firm? Click here to check out the details about the Your Profitable Law Firm Community today ➝ The first month is FREE (and no credit card required!). Click To Learn More: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/your-profitable-law-firm🙌 Check out my free resources here ➝ Resources: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/link-in-bio🎯 Curious to learn how I can help you achieve overflowing profits 💰 scaled growth 🌱 & thriving lives 😎? Schedule a meeting with me by clicking here ➝ Click To Schedule: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/contact🗣️ Continue the discussion on social! LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelleybrubaker/YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@profit.scale.thrive#attorney #lawyer #profit #scale #thrive #howtogrowalawfirm #CPA #CFO #FractionalCFO #LawFirm #fyp #spotifypodcast #applepodcasts #googlepodcasts #podcast #LawFirmGrowth #LawFirmProfits

    1h 5m

  7. JAN 21

    Ep 137 | Profit Psychology: Why Law Firm Owners Self-Sabotage Financially

    Understanding the Emotional Side of Money for Law Firm OwnersJoin Kelley Brubaker in this episode of Your Profitable Law Firm podcast as she explores the emotional aspects of financial decision-making for law firm owners. She discusses common emotional challenges such as guilt, fear of delegation, and martyr spending, and offers a framework to improve financial health without shame or pressure. Kelley also introduces Profit Strong 90, a free, 90-day course designed to help law firm owners gain financial clarity and build a stronger financial foundation.Sign up for my free 90 day challenge designed to improve your law firm with one baby step every day for 90 days: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/profitstrong-90Do you receive my newsletter? Sign up and enjoy access to free templates and checklists that support each podcast episode. Only those who are on the newsletter distribution list will receive this bonus content. Sign up now: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/newsletter-sign-up📖 Grab my newest book for free (PDF format) here: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/plugging-the-leaks-10-ways-lawyers-waste-money-and-simple-fixes OR buy the Kindle or paperback format here: https://www.amazon.com/Plugging-Leaks-Lawyers-Waste-Simple-ebook/dp/B0FHGCPB6P🫠 Are you stuck in your law firm? Click here to check out the details about the Your Profitable Law Firm Community today ➝ The first month is FREE (and no credit card required!). Click To Learn More: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/your-profitable-law-firm🙌 Check out my free resources here ➝ Resources: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/link-in-bio🎯 Curious to learn how I can help you achieve overflowing profits 💰 scaled growth 🌱 & thriving lives 😎? Schedule a meeting with me by clicking here ➝ Click To Schedule: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/contact🗣️ Continue the discussion on social! LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelleybrubaker/YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@profit.scale.thrive#attorney #lawyer #profit #scale #thrive #howtogrowalawfirm #CPA #CFO #FractionalCFO #LawFirm #fyp #spotifypodcast #applepodcasts #googlepodcasts #podcast #LawFirmGrowth #LawFirmProfits

    10 min

  8. JAN 14

    Ep 136 | Solo and small law firm growth strategies that actually work: Clients, pricing, processes, and AI

    Empowering Law Firm Owners: AI, Marketing, and Growth StrategiesIn this episode of Your Profitable Law Firm podcast, host Kelley Brubaker discusses the September 2025 user conference in Austin, Texas organized by 8am (formerly Affinipay). Panelists Zach Herbert, Kelley Brubaker, and Bob Simon with Catherine Dawson as our Moderator share their experiences and strategies on law firm management, leveraging AI, effective marketing, and billing practices. Topics include starting a law firm, hiring processes, ideal client profiles, pricing strategies, using AI for administrative tasks, and the impact of technology on legal practices. The panel also touches on capturing client reviews and integrating technology to streamline operations. Do you receive my newsletter? Sign up and enjoy access to free templates and checklists that support each podcast episode. Only those who are on the newsletter distribution list will receive this bonus content. Sign up now: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/newsletter-sign-up 📖 Grab my newest book for free (PDF format) here: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/plugging-the-leaks-10-ways-lawyers-waste-money-and-simple-fixes OR buy the Kindle or paperback format here: https://www.amazon.com/Plugging-Leaks-Lawyers-Waste-Simple-ebook/dp/B0FHGCPB6P 🫠 Are you stuck in your law firm? Click here to check out the details about the Your Profitable Law Firm Community today ➝ The first month is FREE (and no credit card required!). Click To Learn More: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/your-profitable-law-firm 🙌 Check out my free resources here ➝ Resources: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/link-in-bio 🎯 Curious to learn how I can help you achieve overflowing profits 💰 scaled growth 🌱 & thriving lives 😎? Schedule a meeting with me by clicking here ➝ Click To Schedule: https://www.profitscalethrive.com/contact 🗣️ Continue the discussion on social! LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelleybrubaker/YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@profit.scale.thrive #attorney #lawyer #profit #scale #thrive #howtogrowalawfirm #CPA #CFO #FractionalCFO #LawFirm #fyp #spotifypodcast #applepodcasts #googlepodcasts #podcast #LawFirmGrowth #LawFirmProfits

    51 min
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Guiding law firms to overflowing profits 💰 scaled growth 🌱 and thriving lives 😎 This is your source of business insights and money mindset with a little bit of humor tossed in. Hosted by Kelley Brubaker, CPA who is a business advisor and entrepreneur. Kelley knows there is an easier way to make money as a small business owner and that's what she's here to help you do.

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  • Creator
    Kelley Brubaker
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2026
  • Episodes
    143
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Kelley Brubaker
  • Show Website
    Your Profitable Law Firm

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