Property Management Frame Breakers

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The Property Management Frame Breakers podcast is about showcasing the innovators who are reshaping property management. It profiles leaders who have "broken the frame" by rethinking traditional practices and excelling with bold, unconventional strategies.

  1. 1D AGO

    Ep 111 | The Word That Will Define the Next Era of AI in PM

    In this episode, Pablo introduces a term that’s already circulating in the broader AI world and is about to reshape how property managers think about technology: System of Action. You will learn: ✅ System of Action 101 — What it is, why it matters, and how it’s replacing “just tracking” with “actually doing.” 🤖 AI That Acts — How agentic AI handles the work so your team can focus on leadership, not logistics. 📈 Cleaner Data, Faster Decisions — Why systems that act and record create more accurate insights. 💡 A New Role for People — How to lead when AI takes on the busywork. 🔥 Vendoroo’s Edge — Why the first System of Action for Maintenance is changing how property managers scale. Because the next generation of property management companies won’t win by working harder—they’ll win by building systems that think, act, and improve themselves. 🎧 Listen now to discover why the smartest move you can make this year is letting your system finally take action. 🌟 Stay Connected with Us: 🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn 📬Subscribe to Vendoroo's Weekly Newsletter 💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn 🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website Chapters: 00:00 AI in Property Management: A New Shift Is Coming 01:21 Why Words Matter: Category Design & the Search for the Right Term 01:44 From Generative to Agentic AI: Last Year’s Big Breakthrough 02:21 The New Concept: “System of Action” Hits the Radar 03:05 Systems of Record vs. Systems of Action (and Why People Were the Original) 04:15 When Record + Action Merge: AI Agents as the New Operating Layer 05:00 Maintenance Example: The AI-Run Work Order From Call to Closeout 06:27 Beyond Maintenance: Sales/CRM Context and the End of Lost Notes 07:47 What This Changes for Leadership, Burnout, and Compounding Context 09:02 Final Takeaway: “System of Action” Is Coming to Property Management

    10 min
  2. Ep 110 | An AI Team Lead's Day to Day Role In Maintenance Operations w/ Bill Davy

    4D AGO

    Ep 110 | An AI Team Lead's Day to Day Role In Maintenance Operations w/ Bill Davy

    The job title, AI Team Lead, is the most predictable thing that is coming to property management, but few people actually have that role today.  That's why we are introducing you to one of the few that does! In this episode, Pablo Gonzalez sits down with Bill Davy of Happy Homes to unpack what happens when AI is put in the hands of the right person. Bill shares how approaching AI as a teammate, not a tool, helped him build an operation that runs calmer, costs less, and earns more trust… even while hitting weeks of ~97% automation. You’ll learn: ✅ AI as a Mirror: Why AI doesn’t fix broken maintenance systems—it exposes where leadership, standards, and ownership are missing. 🧠 Train Once, Scale Forever: How treating AI like a new hire turns one-off fixes into permanent leverage. 🛠️ From Firefighting to Filtering: Why the real win is fewer emergencies reaching a human at all. 🤖 97% Automation, More Trust: How automation frees you to do the human work that owners and tenants actually care about.. 🧘 The Keeper of Zen Role: How AI-first maintenance shifts your job from reacting to problems to calmly guiding outcomes. 🎧 Listen now if you want maintenance that feels calm on the inside—and credible on the outside. 🌟 Stay Connected with Us: 🤝 Connect with Bill Davy on LinkedIn 🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn 📬Subscribe to Vendoroo's Weekly Newsletter 💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn 🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website Chapters: 00:00 – Why Maintenance Is the #1 Stress Point for Property Managers 02:44 – How a Non-PM Built a Better Maintenance Operation 07:58 – Mastering AppFolio Before Adding More Tools 12:00 – Choosing AI That Actually Works for Maintenance 14:26 – The PM Skill That Matters More Than Experience 22:00 – What 97% Maintenance Automation Means for PMs 29:21 – How to Train AI Like a Maintenance Coordinator 33:19 – Why AI Exposes Weak PM Leadership 42:56 – Real AI Workflows Inside a PM Company 50:00 – The New Role of Maintenance Managers in PM Companies 54:00 – The “Keeper of Zen”: A New Maintenance KPI for PMs 60:39 – Letting AI Own Maintenance Outcomes 67:50 – What PMs Should Do Next

    1h 4m

  3. FEB 14

    Ep 109 | You Were Already AI Ready 100 Work Orders Ago

    You don’t need three weeks to get AI-ready. You were ready 100 work orders ago. Most property managers believe they have to manually codify every maintenance policy before they can use AI. That’s the bottleneck. In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Pablo Gonzalez breaks down the biggest onboarding myth in property management. Drawing from insights shared by Vendoroo’s Head of Account Operations, Tyler Nelson, Pablo explains how AI can review your historical work orders, identify your patterns, and generate your maintenance rules for you. You’ll learn: ✅ Behavior = Policy: Your real maintenance rules are already written in your last 50–100 work orders. 🔎 The Operational Truth Audit: How to quickly spot your actual vendor preferences, NTE limits, and troubleshooting patterns by reviewing what you’ve already done. 🏗 The Brain Hierarchy: How AI applies rules the right way so automation stays precise. ⚡ The Onboarding Shortcut: How Vendoroo mines your historical work orders and builds your Maintenance Book for you. 🚀 Mirror, Don’t Build: Why you don’t need to create new systems to scale with AI — you just need to replicate. 🌟 Stay Connected with Us: 🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn 📬Subscribe to Vendoroo's Weekly Newsletter 💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn 🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website Chapters: 00:00 The SOP Manual Lie: Stop Waiting to ‘Get AI Ready’ 00:54 Your Real Policies Live in Work Orders (The Onboarding Shortcut) 01:24 Tyler Nelson: Let the Data Show What You Actually Do 02:13 Data With a Purpose: Turning Behavior Into Actions 03:02 AI Onboarding Shift: Mining Work Orders Instead of Intake Calls 04:59 Building the AI ‘Brain’: Unit → Property/Company → Vendor Knowledge 06:09 Wrap-Up: You Were Ready Already—Mirror Your Excellence

    8 min
  4. Ep 108 | Educating Property Management Clients & Prospects at Scale w/ Paul Rich

    FEB 11

    Ep 108 | Educating Property Management Clients & Prospects at Scale w/ Paul Rich

    Property management only works when clients understand what you do, how you do it, and where the boundaries are. The problem? There aren’t enough hours in the day to explain it all, over and over again. In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Vendoroo's Chief Evangelist Pablo Gonzalez sits down with Paul Rich—a property manager, former public school teacher, and "Grandpa-on-a-mission"—who has turned education into his ultimate business lever. Paul reveals how he uses the “Educator Advantage” across sales and onboarding to eliminate “client amnesia,” set expectations early, and build trust without endless explanations. By pairing video-first education with automation and AI, he’s built a system that scales relationships (not just doors), freeing property managers to focus on leadership, judgment, and life outside the inbox. You’ll Learn: ✅ The Rule of Three: Paul’s simple trigger—if you have to say it twice, record it once. 🎥 How to systemize trust 🤖 How Paul uses AI (ChatGPT + Captions AI) to turn a 2-minute brain dump into professional, repeatable content. ⚖️  Why the secret to scaling from 100 to 1,000 doors lies in automating the "boring" tasks so you can be the "high-value advisor." 🏝️ How to use automation to buy back your life and move from "reactive firefighter" to "strategic CEO." 🎧 Listen now to learn how to stop chasing your tail and start building the "Educator Advantage." 🌟 Stay Connected with Us: 🤝 Connect with Paul Rich on LinkedIn 🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn 📬Subscribe to Vendoroo's Weekly Newsletter 💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn 🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website Chapters: 00:50 Why the best business breakthroughs happen when you’re out of the office. 01:54  Reframing education as your #1 client acquisition funnel. 02:43 Why teaching beats "selling" when it comes to landing new doors. 03:09 Curing "Client Amnesia" using automated video  11:34 Why recorded knowledge is more valuable than manual labor. 14:24 The Grandpa Goal – Using AI and Vendoroo to stop "chasing your tail" and buy back your life. 25:00 How to build your automation library one "bite" at a time. 30:32 The 3 E’s of PM Content – How to Educate, Entertain, and Elevate your investors. 31:01 Converting the "Self-Managing" landlord by solving their specific pain. 31:57  Shifting from features to benefits  32:56 The AI Content Evolution  35:17 The 3-step framework to get AI to write your scripts and newsletters. 37:42 Why the "Stage" is the ultimate shortcut to investor credibility. 47:54 How to turn your local expertise into national speaking opportunities. 53:58 Reclaiming your role as a CEO and strategic advisor.

    49 min

  5. FEB 7

    Ep 107 | How to Right-Size AI Expectations: Defined Work vs. Undefined Work

    Expectations around AI vary between overhyped software to existential threat, so we need a simpler way to evaluate it. That’s why the lense of defined work vs underfined work is so valuable. In this mini episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, @Pablo Gonzalez shares a simple framework he heard on Tony Cline’s Property Management Success Podcast, and it instantly clarified how to right-size AI expectations. You’ll learn: 🧱 The “Defined vs. Undefined Work” lens that makes AI adoption instantly clearer 🤖 What AI agents are actually good at today (and what they aren’t) 🧠 How AI gives your best teammate their “perfect assistant” 🤝 How to bring back the high-trust role your owners really want: “their guy” 🎧 Listen now if you want a no-hype way to think about AI and a practical path to using it to raise standards, reduce churn, and give your best people work that actually feels meaningful. 🎧  Here is Tony’s podcast where I got the idea. 🌟 Stay Connected with Us: 🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn 📬Subscribe to Vendoroo's Weekly Newsletter 💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn 🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Personal Anecdote 00:43 Introducing the Podcast and Sponsor 01:17 Discussion on Tony Klein's Podcast 02:07 AI in Property Management 02:43 Defined vs. Undefined Work 04:15 Impact of AI on Work Fulfillment 05:15 Practical Applications of AI 07:22 Conclusion and Call to Action

    9 min
  6. Ep 106 | He Scaled & Sold His PMC In Under a Year w/ Tyler Nelson

    FEB 4

    Ep 106 | He Scaled & Sold His PMC In Under a Year w/ Tyler Nelson

    What happens when your property management company grows faster than your operations can handle? In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Pablo Gonzalez sits down with Tyler Nelson, a former PM operator who went from “accidental property manager” to scaling nearly 100 doors fast, then selling his company… and stepping straight into the AI frontier. This conversation starts with the gritty realities of growth (vacancy spikes, tool breakpoints, marketing experiments, and why “what works at 50 doors breaks at 100”)—but it ends with the real point of the episode: Scaling beyond the limits of human operations requires a new model. Not more hustle. Not more headcount. A human-in-the-loop AI teammate that can own outcomes without stripping you of control. You’ll learn: 🚀 Why rapid growth doesn’t break businesses—process fragility does 💰 How Tyler used fixed-cost scaling to make growth predictable (and profitable) 🎯 Why flat-fee pricing can be a weapon for portfolio selection 🧠 The hidden truth about AI in PM: the more advanced it gets, the more intentional oversight matters 🤖 Why the next must-have role in your company might be an AI Team Lead If you’ve been wondering how to scale without sacrificing service, sanity, or control, this episode lays out the mindset and operating principles that make it possible. 🎧 Listen now to learn how the best PMs will scale in the AI era: by going beyond human limits without losing the human edge. 🌟 Stay Connected with Us: 🤝 Connect with Tyler Nelson on LinkedIn 🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn 📬Subscribe to Vendoroo's Weekly Newsletter 💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn 🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website Chapters: 01:14 Becoming a Property Manager by Accident Then by Design 03:02 How to Add 90 Doors Without Losing Control 05:36 The Growth Wall Every PM Hits Around 100 Doors 07:31 Building a PM Tech Stack That Can Actually Scale 09:34 Flat Fee Pricing How PMs Can Attract Better Properties 12:48 The PM Exit Decision When to Scale Further vs Sell 14:02 Selling a PM Company Then Starting Over 26:17 Why Buying Property Management Companies Is So Competitive 26:52 How to Sell a PM Company Without a Broker 27:06 The State of the Property Management Acquisition Market 27:31 Listing a PM Company for Sale and Getting Instant Demand 28:57 Contracts Clawbacks and Protecting Yourself in a PM Sale 30:22 Why Property Managers Are Moving Into AI 30:40 Using AI to Scale Hiring and Operations 34:03 The Future of Property Management Human in the Loop AI

    57 min

  7. JAN 31

    Ep 105 | AI Is Nowhere Close To Replacing Property Managers (But It WILL Replace THIS)

    In this episode, Vendoroo’s Chief Evangelist, Pablo Gonzalez, recalls a game-changing conversation from Tony Klein's podcast with Darus Trutna, an operator who successfully absorbed a 900-door company. Part of Darus's success came from how well he understands technology.  On the podcast he shared a particularly valuable concept- The difference between  Defined Work and Undefined Work in property management, and how that should be lens to look through when predicting AI outcomes. You’ll Learn: 💡 Why 80% of a PM’s day is "defined" procedural work that drains talent, and how to protect the 20% where true value lives 🧠 Why high-performers quit after 8 months of "defined" work and how to stop the "hidden churn" in your team. 🤝 Why AI can’t replace the "undefined" moments like sensing the need to build a relationship with a client’s spouse. 🚀 How scale, consistency, and meaning finally stop fighting each other with the right AI strategy. Whether you are a solo operator or managing thousands of units, this episode provides the North Star for incorporating AI without losing the human heart of your business. 🎧 You should totally listen to the conversation that sparked this on Tony Cline's Property Management Success Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/53sSltqg97uLz1cVnqvgRG?si=7283bcf7d95c4ca5 🌟 Stay Connected with Us: 🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn 📬Subscribe to Vendoroo's Weekly Newsletter 💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn 🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website Chapters: 00:16 From 100 to 1,000 Doors: The Darris Trena Story 00:32 The Tech-First Operator’s Secret Weapon 00:58 Is AI Selling Your Own Business Back to You? 01:21 The 80/20 Rule: Defined vs. Undefined Work 02:13 Where the Needle Moves: The Power of Human Judgment 04:00 The Scaling Trap: Why Great Operations Break at 500 Doors 06:04 Agentic AI: The End of "Boring" Work 07:26 Building a Durable Team (The Cure for Hidden Churn) 08:43 Your New North Star: Scaling with Meaning

    12 min
  8. Ep 104 | Finding Passion For Property Management When It Wasn't There Before w/ Rob Kazen

    JAN 28

    Ep 104 | Finding Passion For Property Management When It Wasn't There Before w/ Rob Kazen

    In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, host Pablo Gonzalez sits down with Rob Kazen, owner of 1st Choice Property Management, to deconstruct a 16-year journey from "shooting from the hip" to building a highly profitable, AI-driven operation. Rob shares the vulnerable reality of taking over a 35-year family legacy, moving through the grief of losing his father, and finally "re-founding" the company with the systems and intentionality it deserved. You’ll hear how he stopped using maintenance as a mere tool for control and turned it into a profit center that finally captures the "hundreds of thousands of dollars" he had been leaving on the table. You’ll learn: 💰 Why most PMs are unknowingly bleeding profit in maintenance (even with full teams) 🛠️ The mindset shift: maintenance as a profit center, not a “tool” 📊 Why benchmarking and actually reading your P&L changes the game 👥 How one key hire (“your Mason”) can accelerate your entire operation 🤖 The real challenge of AI adoption: retraining humans to stop “quick handling” everything 📈 What it looks like when 85% of work orders run without your involvement 💡 How to transition maintenance from a chaotic "service" into a high-margin profit center. 🛠️ Why fixing an employee’s car in the parking lot builds more culture than any mission statement. 🤖 The mindset shift required to let AI own work orders and free your coordinators to actually manage. 🚀 A roadmap for implementing LeadSimple, Vendoroo, and Pod structures in a single year without breaking the business. If you’ve ever felt like your business is “working”… but still leaking money, energy, and attention behind the scenes, this episode will hit home. 🎧 Listen now and discover the real fix: not more hustle, not another coordinator but ownership, systems, and delegation that scales. 🌟 Stay Connected with Us: 🤝 Connect with Rob Kazen on LinkedIn 🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn 📬Subscribe to Vendoroo's Weekly Newsletter 💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn 🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website Chapters: 00:00 When You Know Something Has to Change (But You’re Avoiding It) 00:38 Building Maintenance Without Knowing What You’re Doing 02:16 Why Treating Maintenance Like “Support” Is Costing You Money 03:59 16 Years of Control… and Almost No Financial Clarity 06:17 When Personal Loss Bleeds Into Business Performance 06:57 Growth Didn’t Happen Until the Old Way Hurt Enough 16:08 Too Many PM Tools, Too Little Mental Bandwidth 18:37 The One Hire That Can Finally Let You Step Back 21:50 Leading a Team While Knowing You’re the Bottleneck 22:03 Why Starting a Podcast Wasn’t About Marketing 22:36 How Exposure to Better Operators Changes Your Standards 23:41 Using Content to Build Owner Trust Before the First Call 31:41 Why AI Won't Replace Your Maintenance Team, It  Will Free Them 40:22 Why Delegation Is the Real Endgame of Scale

    47 min
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The Property Management Frame Breakers podcast is about showcasing the innovators who are reshaping property management. It profiles leaders who have "broken the frame" by rethinking traditional practices and excelling with bold, unconventional strategies.

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