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Mike and Nat are two middle-aged suburban dads wrestling with addiction and recovery while trying to juggle home life, work, and staying sober. Listen as they discuss current topics in the recovery community including 12 Step, alternative addiction recovery and the newest medical research . Listen to the guys talk about their daily struggle to maintain their recovery and anonymity in the world of soccer moms and PTA meetings. If the neighbors only knew...

Recovery in the Middle Ages - Two Middle-Aged Suburban Dads Talk About Recovering From Addiction to Drugs & Alcohol‪.‬ Recovery in the Middle Ages

    • Health & Fitness
    • 4.8 • 128 Ratings

Mike and Nat are two middle-aged suburban dads wrestling with addiction and recovery while trying to juggle home life, work, and staying sober. Listen as they discuss current topics in the recovery community including 12 Step, alternative addiction recovery and the newest medical research . Listen to the guys talk about their daily struggle to maintain their recovery and anonymity in the world of soccer moms and PTA meetings. If the neighbors only knew...

    Jesse Jarnow, Psychedelic Therapy, the Grateful Dead, and LSD

    Jesse Jarnow, Psychedelic Therapy, the Grateful Dead, and LSD

    RMA-Episode 87 Show Notes:

     

    RMA-Episode 86: This week on RMA, Mike interviews Jesse Jarnow. Jesse is a writer, a DJ and the host of the Good Ole Grateful Deadcast, the official podcast of the Grateful Dead. He is also the author of Heads: A Biography of Psychedelic America. In order to understand the present popularity of psychedelics as a treatment modality for trauma and substance abuse, it’s important to understand the history of these substances and their place in the American psyche. Mike and Jesse discuss that history, as well as the history of psychedelic therapy, the Grateful Dead, and how psychedelics are inexorably woven into the fabric of modern society.  

     

    We also play a listener voicemail, read a listener email, and share what we’ve been up to. It’s two and a half hours of RMA, coming straight to your earholes.

     

    Please remember to SUBSCRIBE to the podcast on your favorite platform to get the latest episode delivered right to your devices as soon as it’s released.

    We are a listener-supported podcast. If you like what we’re doing here at RMA and want to support the show, JOIN THE RECOVERY IN THE MIDDLE AGES PATREON 

     

    Our sole mission is to help other people achieve sobriety and become their best, most authentic selves. As little as $3 a month makes a big difference and helps us keep the lights on.

     

    As always, we thank you for your support.

     

    LINKS: 

     

    Jesse Jarnow

     

    Heads: A Biography of Psychedelic America

     

    The Good Ole Grateful Deadcast

     

    These Mormons Have Found a New Faith — in Magic Mushrooms

     

    WFMU-The Frow Show





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    www.soberliningsplaybook.com





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    MikeR@middleagesrecovery.com

    Natx@middleagesrecovery.com

     

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    We all have a story. Tell us yours and we’ll share it on the show!

     

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    Join the Facebook Page! Exciting things are happening there!

     

    We also have a Facebook Group! Request to join the group. It’s a private space for continuing the discussion of what Nat and Mike talk about on the podcast. Hope to see you there.





    If you’re in trouble with substance abuse and need help, reach out. There are thousands of people who have put problems with addiction in their rear-view mirrors and you can be one of them. While we neither endorse nor condemn any particular program, the sheer number of available AA and NA meetings suggest that reaching out to those organizations would be a good first step on the road to recovery.  

     

    https://www.aa.org/

    https://www.na.org/meetingsearch/

     

    Marijuana Anonymous (just in case):

     

    This Naked Mind

    • 2 hr 31 min
    Today, We Review ”Drinkers Like me” by Adrian Chiles & Moderation Management

    Today, We Review ”Drinkers Like me” by Adrian Chiles & Moderation Management

    RMA-Episode 86 Show Notes:

     

    A triumphant return! Season 2 of RMA kicks off with a review of the BBC documentary film Drinkers Like Me. Mike and Nat talk about the perils and pitfalls of moderation and non-abstinent recovery. Is such a thing even possible? Is it advisable? Does preaching the possibility of moderate drinking to the masses harm people who should be sticking the plug firmly in the jug? Tune in to find out.

     

    We also have an extended life-update, a scientific Recovery in the News, and an alien- pentacostal Week in Weird. There’s a couple of reviews, and some Monksters Speaking. It’s an exciting hour and forty minutes of podcasting, hand-made just for you. 

     

    Finally, a big thank you to the fans who have stuck with us through the hiatus. Good things to come!

     

    Please remember to SUBSCRIBE to the podcast on your favorite platform to get the latest episode delivered right to your devices as soon as it’s released.

    We are a listener-supported podcast. If you like what we’re doing here at RMA and want to support the show, JOIN THE RECOVERY IN THE MIDDLE AGES PATREON 

     

    Our sole mission is to help other people achieve sobriety and become their best, most authentic selves. As little as $3 a month makes a big difference and helps us keep the lights on.

     

    As always, we thank you for your support.

     

    LINKS: 

     

    Drinkers Like Me

     

    Recovery in the News

     

    The Week in Weird





    Recovery News You Can Use, Any Day of the Week:

     

    www.soberliningsplaybook.com





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    You can reach us by email at:

    MikeR@middleagesrecovery.com

    Natx@middleagesrecovery.com

     

    Send comments, complaints, death threats, ideas and requests to be interviewed. We’ll talk to anyone!

     

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    Www.middleagesrecovery.com

     

    While you’re there, buy a T-Shirt and support your favorite recovery podcast.

     

    We all have a story. Tell us yours and we’ll share it on the show!

     

    E-Mail your story to miker@middleagesrecovery.com

     

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    Join the Facebook Page! Exciting things are happening there!

     

    We also have a Facebook Group! Request to join the group. It’s a private space for continuing the discussion of what Nat and Mike talk about on the podcast. Hope to see you there.





    If you’re in trouble with substance abuse and need help, reach out. There are thousands of people who have put problems with addiction in their rear-view mirrors and you can be one of them. While we neither endorse nor condemn any particular program, the sheer number of available AA and NA meetings suggest that reaching out to those organizations would be a good first step on the road to recovery.  

     

    https://www.aa.org/

    https://www.na.org/meetingsearch/

     

    Marijuana Anonymous (just in case):

     

    This Naked Mind

    • 1 hr 43 min
    * RMA HIATUS-VIDEO CALL UPDATE * Nat X & Mike R Spill The Beans!

    * RMA HIATUS-VIDEO CALL UPDATE * Nat X & Mike R Spill The Beans!

    RMA-Episode 85 Show Notes:

     

    And, We’re Almost Back! This morning we started a zoom call to catch up, Mike hit the record button, and we both realized how much we missed doing the show. What we planned as a quick discussion turned into an hour of material so we decided to release it as a stand-alone episode. Highlights include Nat visiting a “CBD” dispensary and recording the walk-through with Mike on the phone, some riffing on future show ideas and the planning process, and a talk about psychedelic therapy and harm-reduction. 

     

    We also read a nice review, but you’ll have to wait until we’re back in the studio to get a new dose of RITN and WIW. In the interim, I hope this off the cuff discussion helps fill the void left by the RMA hiatus.

     

    We apologize for Nat’s audio and hope it isn’t too distracting, but this was a spur of the moment thing so we hope you’ll bear with us.

     

    Please remember to SUBSCRIBE to the podcast on your favorite platform to get the latest episode delivered right to your devices as soon as it’s released.

    We are a listener-supported podcast. If you like what we’re doing here at RMA and want to support the show, JOIN THE RECOVERY IN THE MIDDLE AGES PATREON 

     

    Our sole mission is to help other people achieve sobriety and become their best, most authentic selves. As little as $3 a month makes a big difference and helps us keep the lights on.

     

    As always, we thank you for your support.

     

    LINKS: 

     

    Is Psychedelic Therapy a big scam?

     

    Heads-by Jesse Jarnow





    Recovery News You Can Use, Any Day of the Week:

     

    www.soberliningsplaybook.com





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    PLEASE leave us a 5 star review on I-Tunes if you’re enjoying the show and SUBSCRIBE to get the latest episodes. 

     

    You can reach us by email at:

    MikeR@middleagesrecovery.com

    Natx@middleagesrecovery.com

     

    Send comments, complaints, death threats, ideas and requests to be interviewed. We’ll talk to anyone!

     

    Check out the website:

    Www.middleagesrecovery.com

     

    While you’re there, buy a T-Shirt and support your favorite recovery podcast.

     

    We all have a story. Tell us yours and we’ll share it on the show!

     

    E-Mail your story to miker@middleagesrecovery.com

     

    FOLLOW US ON TWITTER 





    Join the Facebook Page! Exciting things are happening there!

     

    We also have a Facebook Group! Request to join the group. It’s a private space for continuing the discussion of what Nat and Mike talk about on the podcast. Hope to see you there.





    If you’re in trouble with substance abuse and need help, reach out. There are thousands of people who have put problems with addiction in their rear-view mirrors and you can be one of them. While we neither endorse nor condemn any particular program, the sheer number of available AA and NA meetings suggest that reaching out to those organizations would be a good first step on the road to recovery.  

     

    https://www.aa.org/

    https://www.na.org/meetingsearch/

     

    Marijuana Anonymous (just in case):

     

    This Naked Mind

     

    Addiction Recovery Podcast

     

    • 1 hr 5 min
    ”Your Best Thinking Got You Here!” And Other Questionable Things Said To Us In Early Recovery

    ”Your Best Thinking Got You Here!” And Other Questionable Things Said To Us In Early Recovery

    RMA-Episode 84 Show Notes:

     

    Your best thinking got you here. It’s a common enough slogan in AA and other 12 Step programs, but what does it mean? Einstein said that you cannot solve a problem with the same thinking that caused it. Does that mean we shouldn’t question the methods and philosophical underpinnings or recovery programs? Or is there perhaps a place for self-empowerment and self- reliance in recovery.  Mike and Nat debate the implications of checking your brain at the door and whether it’s a necessary predicate to achieving lasting recovery.

     

    Also, Monkster’s Speak, the Week in Weird, Recovery in the News and the life-update, on a self-empowered, SMART, checked from the neck up episode of RMA.

     

    Please remember to SUBSCRIBE to the podcast on your favorite platform to get the latest episode delivered right to your devices as soon as it’s released.

    We are a listener-supported podcast. If you like what we’re doing here at RMA and want to support the show, JOIN THE RECOVERY IN THE MIDDLE AGES PATREON 

     

    Our sole mission is to help other people achieve sobriety and become their best, most authentic selves. As little as $3 a month makes a big difference and helps us keep the lights on.

     

    As always, we thank you for your support.

     

    LINKS: 

     

    Recovery in the News

     

    The Week in Weird





    Recovery News You Can Use, Any Day of the Week:

     

    www.soberliningsplaybook.com

     

    Take 3 With SLP





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    PLEASE leave us a 5 star review on I-Tunes if you’re enjoying the show and SUBSCRIBE to get the latest episodes. 

     

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    MikeR@middleagesrecovery.com

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    Send comments, complaints, death threats, ideas and requests to be interviewed. We’ll talk to anyone!

     

    Check out the website:

    Www.middleagesrecovery.com

     

    While you’re there, buy a T-Shirt and support your favorite recovery podcast.

     

    We all have a story. Tell us yours and we’ll share it on the show!

     

    E-Mail your story to miker@middleagesrecovery.com

     

    FOLLOW US ON TWITTER 





    Join the Facebook Page! Exciting things are happening there!

     

    We also have a Facebook Group! Request to join the group. It’s a private space for continuing the discussion of what Nat and Mike talk about on the podcast. Hope to see you there.





    If you’re in trouble with substance abuse and need help, reach out. There are thousands of people who have put problems with addiction in their rear-view mirrors and you can be one of them. While we neither endorse nor condemn any particular program, the sheer number of available AA and NA meetings suggest that reaching out to those organizations would be a good first step on the road to recovery.  

     

    https://www.aa.org/

    https://www.na.org/meetingsearch/

     

    Marijuana Anonymous (just in case):

     

    This Naked Mind

     

    Addiction Recovery Podcast

     

    • 2 hr 3 min
    April’s Top Recovery Stories on a VERY Special ’Take 3 SLP’ LIVE edition!

    April’s Top Recovery Stories on a VERY Special ’Take 3 SLP’ LIVE edition!

    RMA-Episode 83 Show Notes:

     

    This week on RMA-it’s a Take 3 Takeover! RMA and Sober Lining Playbooks’s own Grant Boyken joins Mike and Nat to discuss involuntary civil commitment, alcohol awareness month and process addictions. 

     

    Also, Monkster’s Speak,the week in Weird and the life-update, on a slowly recovering, technologically challenged, newsworthy episode of RMA.

     

    Please remember to SUBSCRIBE to the podcast on your favorite platform to get the latest episode delivered right to your devices as soon as it’s released.

    We are a listener-supported podcast. If you like what we’re doing here at RMA and want to support the show, JOIN THE RECOVERY IN THE MIDDLE AGES PATREON 

     

    Our sole mission is to help other people achieve sobriety and become their best, most authentic selves. As little as $3 a month makes a big difference and helps us keep the lights on.

     

    As always, we thank you for your support.

     

    LINKS: 

     

    The Week in Weird





    Recovery News You Can Use, Any Day of the Week:

     

    www.soberliningsplaybook.com

     

    Take 3 With SLP





    JOIN THE RECOVERY IN THE MIDDLE AGES PATREON AND SUPPORT THE SHOW!!





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    PLEASE leave us a 5 star review on I-Tunes if you’re enjoying the show and SUBSCRIBE to get the latest episodes. 

     

    You can reach us by email at:

    MikeR@middleagesrecovery.com

    Natx@middleagesrecovery.com

     

    Send comments, complaints, death threats, ideas and requests to be interviewed. We’ll talk to anyone!

    Check out the website:

    Www.middleagesrecovery.com

     

    While you’re there, buy a T-Shirt and support your favorite recovery podcast.

     

    We all have a story. Tell us yours and we’ll share it on the show!

     

    E-Mail your story to miker@middleagesrecovery.com

     

    FOLLOW US ON TWITTER 





    Join the Facebook Page! Exciting things are happening there!

     

    We also have a Facebook Group! Request to join the group. It’s a private space for continuing the discussion of what Nat and Mike talk about on the podcast. Hope to see you there.





    If you’re in trouble with substance abuse and need help, reach out. There are thousands of people who have put problems with addiction in their rear-view mirrors and you can be one of them. While we neither endorse nor condemn any particular program, the sheer number of available AA and NA meetings suggest that reaching out to those organizations would be a good first step on the road to recovery.  

     

    https://www.aa.org/

    https://www.na.org/meetingsearch/

     

    Marijuana Anonymous (just in case):

     

    This Naked Mind

     

    Addiction Recovery Podcast

     

    • 1 hr 35 min
    The Great Debate: Recover or Recovered? Is It Possible? Does It Matter? Find Out!

    The Great Debate: Recover or Recovered? Is It Possible? Does It Matter? Find Out!

    RMA-Episode 82 Show Notes:

     

    And we’re back! Sort of. Mike is still wrestling with COVID but the show must go on and so it does, in all of its audio-challenged glory. This week, spring is in the air and weed is everywhere. We continue our discussion about cannabis and kombucha, psychedelics and shamans, and where any of that fits into a recovery program. For the main event we ask the perennial question that vexes 12-step meetings across the land, “Are we recovered, or recovering?” You don’t want to miss this one!

     

    Also, a double (and topical), Monkster’s Speak, a nice review and a long life update on a budding, on the mend but still testing positive episode, of RMA.

     

    Please remember to SUBSCRIBE to the podcast on your favorite platform to get the latest episode delivered right to your devices as soon as it’s released.

    We are a listener-supported podcast. If you like what we’re doing here at RMA and want to support the show, JOIN THE RECOVERY IN THE MIDDLE AGES PATREON 

     

    Our sole mission is to help other people achieve sobriety and become their best, most authentic selves. As little as $3 a month makes a big difference and helps us keep the lights on.

     

    As always, we thank you for your support.

     

    LINKS: 

     

    Recovery in the News

     

    The Week in Weird





    Recovery News You Can Use, Any Day of the Week:

     

    www.soberliningsplaybook.com

     

    The Big Three With SLP





    JOIN THE RECOVERY IN THE MIDDLE AGES PATREON AND SUPPORT THE SHOW!!





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    PLEASE leave us a 5 star review on I-Tunes if you’re enjoying the show and SUBSCRIBE to get the latest episodes. 

     

    You can reach us by email at:

    MikeR@middleagesrecovery.com

    Natx@middleagesrecovery.com

     

    Send comments, complaints, death threats, ideas and requests to be interviewed. We’ll talk to anyone!

    Check out the website:

    Www.middleagesrecovery.com

     

    While you’re there, buy a T-Shirt and support your favorite recovery podcast.

     

    We all have a story. Tell us yours and we’ll share it on the show!

     

    E-Mail your story to miker@middleagesrecovery.com

     

    FOLLOW US ON TWITTER 





    Join the Facebook Page! Exciting things are happening there!

     

    We also have a Facebook Group! Request to join the group. It’s a private space for continuing the discussion of what Nat and Mike talk about on the podcast. Hope to see you there.





    If you’re in trouble with substance abuse and need help, reach out. There are thousands of people who have put problems with addiction in their rear-view mirrors and you can be one of them. While we neither endorse nor condemn any particular program, the sheer number of available AA and NA meetings suggest that reaching out to those organizations would be a good first step on the road to recovery.  

     

    https://www.aa.org/

    https://www.na.org/meetingsearch/

     

    Marijuana Anonymous (just in case):

     

    This Naked Mind

     

    Addiction Recovery Podcast

     

    • 1 hr 53 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
128 Ratings

128 Ratings

Love every episode! ,

Just love it!

These gentleman do a fantastic job with this podcast. Entertaining, inspiring and educational…. Thank you!

ia2cagirl ,

I’m HOOKED on this show! 😉

I’m a 50 year old woman who’s been alcohol free for almost 2 years and I am SO glad I stumbled onto this podcast. I usually prefer podcasts with shorter episodes, but the banter between Mike & Nat has really grown on me.

Anyone wanting to change their relationship with a substance would benefit from this, but true to the name, those who are middle aged like me will get a real kick out of it.I usually listen to the episodes while I’m out for a walk and often catch myself laughing out loud or smiling nostalgically when they reference things from the 80s.

There is such a genuine warmth & relatability about both of them, and I love that they don’t feel the need to agree with each other.Their different perspectives are really helpful in thinking about the different topics they discuss each week.

I follow a number of different resources about recovery/sobriety and this has become my favorite due to the awesome way they combine the latest evidence & science with individual human stories.

Very grateful for their dedication to this community and the great shows they put out!

dhtijii ,

Thoughtful, provocative and insightful recovery

I’ve reviewed other recovery podcasts and have settled on this one as my go to core support podcast. As co-hosts Mike and Nat are highly intelligent, funny and empathetic. They take you on a journey where you learn about them, yourself and a multitude of metaphysical and science based recovery strategies, ideas and connections to help one stay sober. They don’t condescend or preach down on a spiritual approach but look at it as one component of a broader holistic program. They see each recovery plan as individualized and an ala carte approach is encouraged. The show itself is engaging because there is a plenty of discovery and reflection. The many guests, book/movie reviews, current events and patron feedback keep it fresh and entertaining. Very often you end a show with a greater sense of empowerment, confidence , and belief in oneself because the dots have been connected. Five Stars… Highly recommend.

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