Service Design Show

Service Design Show

Go beyond the basics of service design and learn what it truly takes to deliver services that make a positive impact on people, business and planet.

  1. 3d ago

    Why Your Users Are About to Build Workarounds Around You / Mai-Ling Garcia / Episode #260

    Are your customers tired of dealing with slow and broken systems? Discover what happens when everyday people start using powerful new tools to bypass your organization entirely. For years, companies and public institutions have delivered bad services simply because users had no other choice. Today, the tide is turning. Civic technology expert Mai-Ling Garcia (Johns Hopkins, city government) joins the show to explain how accessible tech is empowering citizens and customers to build their own solutions. If your organization refuses to adapt, your users will simply route around you. 🎧 In This Episode The End of Bad Service: Why organizations can no longer rely on a lack of alternatives to trap their customers.The Age of the Workaround: How cheap and powerful tech tools are letting communities bypass broken systems in a single afternoon.Frontlines of Public Innovation: Mai-Ling shares her firsthand experiences with empowered users in civic tech and healthcare.Humans in the Loop: Why human judgment and decision-making remain critical as AI accelerates our world. What is a service you are currently working around or wish you could bypass entirely? Drop a comment below to share your thoughts! Enjoy the episode and keep making a positive impact!Be well, ~ Marc [ 1. GUIDE ] 00:00 Introduction 03:00 Public Sector Role 05:00 The Empathy Trap 08:45 Real-World Backfire 16:45 Power & Decisions 21:00 Tech & Design 35:00 Citizen Workarounds 43:45 Automation Boundaries 56:15 Key Takeaways [ 2. LINKS ] LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mai-linggarcia/ Ling & Company - https://lingandcompany.com/Bold Public Works - https://boldpublicworks.com/ [ 3. CIRCLE ] Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle   [4. FIND THE SHOW ON] Youtube ~ ⁠https://go.servicedesignshow.com/260-youtube⁠ Spotify ~ ⁠https://go.servicedesignshow.com/260-spotify⁠ Apple ~ ⁠https://go.servicedesignshow.com/260-apple⁠ Snipd ~ ⁠https://go.servicedesignshow.com/260-snipd⁠

    Why Your Users Are About to Build Workarounds Around You / Mai-Ling Garcia / Episode #260
  2. Jul 30

    Why Mindless AI Is the Real Danger / Ovetta Sampson / Episode #259

    Are you tired of the relentless AI marketing hype but know you can't afford to ignore it? Discover how to stop blindly applying AI and start mastering it as a malleable "design material" to build impactful, user-centered services . It’s time to stop buying into the stories big tech companies want us to believe about what Artificial Intelligence can and can’t do. Slapping AI mindlessly onto every project doesn't just create bad user experiences. It can do real harm. To set a better example for the service design industry, host Marc sits down with Ovetta Sampson. With a resume that includes Director of UX for Machine Learning at Google and AI design leadership roles at Microsoft and Capital One, Ovetta doesn't just talk theory. She runs Right AI to help teams adopt AI safely, responsibly, and effectively. In this conversation, she breaks down exactly how to understand AI's unique properties, navigate its limitations, and mold it into exactly what you need. In This Episode: The Design Material Mindset: How to stop fearing AI and start shaping it like clay to get the outcomes you want.Steering the Machine: Practical techniques for guiding generic LLMs to reliably produce high-quality, specific results.The Context Crisis: Why understanding your users' real-world context is about to become more important than ever before.When "Wrong" Becomes Dangerous: Why AI will always make mistakes, and how to identify the exact point where those errors become harmful.Breaking the Model: Why you need to start "messing around" and intentionally trying to break AI tools to build your own grounded mastery. If you found value in this episode, please hit the Subscribe button on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts so you never miss a conversation. Share this episode with a fellow service designer who needs to hear this! As always, enjoy, and keep making a positive impact! ~ Marc [ 1. GUIDE ] 00:00 Intro and AI Sycophancy 03:15 Mindless vs. Mindful AI 06:45 Dangers of Automation Bias 10:00 The Humanizing Trap 17:45 Design as a Verb 24:30 Emergent AI Behavior 27:30 AI Confidence Levels 36:15 The Illusion of AI Memory 39:00 Principle 1 of Mindful AI 43:30 Library vs. Netflix Analogy 49:45 Designing for Failure 55:15 The Socio-Technical Challenge 01:01:45 Advice for Designers 01:06:00 Learning Resources 01:09:00 Redefining the Designer 01:11:15 Outro [ 2. LINKS ] LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ovettasampson/ MindfulAI Masterclass: https://www.ovetta-sampson.com/mindfulai-masterclass [ 3. CIRCLE ] Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle   [4. FIND THE SHOW ON] Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/259-youtube Spotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/259-spotify Apple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/259-apple Snipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/259-snipd

    Why Mindless AI Is the Real Danger / Ovetta Sampson / Episode #259
  3. Jul 23

    How to Stay in the Room After the Yes / Journey Management Playbook S02E04

    Want to secure executive buy-in? Stop waiting for a strategic brief from leadership, learn how to pitch solutions that solve your VP's biggest headache. Tired of doing incredible journey mapping work only to realize you still aren't invited to the room where important business decisions are made? In this episode of the Journey Management Playbook, Martin and I break down a highly specific, 5-slide pitch designed to get you a seat at the executive table. Learn how to stop being viewed as just the "journey maps person" and start navigating boardroom politics like a pro. 📌 In This Episode Why asking your VP what could get them fired is the ultimate shortcut to tapping into executive urgency.A tactical, step-by-step breakdown of how to write your own strategic brief and present a high-value proposition.How to handle heavy pushback from stakeholders and turn a painful "no" into meaningful progress.How to reposition customer experience (CX) from a minor workshop activity into a core business solution. We’ve put together an Objection Response Cheat Sheet with the most common pushbacks and ways you can navigate them. You can download it for free using the link in the show notes. Enjoy and keep making a positive impact. ~ Marc [1. LINKS] Playbook Slides - https://go.servicedesignshow.com/-0sy8 [ 2. GUIDE] 00:00 Introduction 05:30 Season Two Recap 06:30 Insights vs. Decisions 09:15 The Journey Manager 11:15 Owner vs. Manager 15:45 The First Week 20:15 Finding the Owner 25:45 Sophia's Story 36:45 The Horizontal Role 39:45 Monday Rhythm 45:15 Executive's Monday 46:45 Building Briefs 51:15 Closing the Loop 54:15 Season Wrap-Up [ 3. FIND THE SHOW ON ] Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-12-youtube Spotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-12-spotify Apple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-12-apple Snipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-12-snipd

    How to Stay in the Room After the Yes / Journey Management Playbook S02E04
  4. Jul 16

    Why the System Isn't Broken (and How to Change It Anyway) / Meghan Bausone / Episode #258

    Are you tired of design feeling boxed in by limiting beliefs and endless support tickets? In this episode, we explore how to break free from the status quo and tackle meaningful, system-level challenges that actually change lives. There isn't a single service design professional who got into this industry to just solve support tickets all day. You got into this to make a positive impact. But what happens when the systems we operate in are designed to keep things exactly the way they are? To answer that, Marc sits down with Meghan Bausone, who recently earned her Doctor of Design degree. Drawing from her firsthand experience redesigning maternity care, Meghan shares actionable advice on how to find opportunities to experiment, overcome the frustrations of a rigid environment, and turn your desire to question everything into your greatest professional superpower. Being stuck in a system doesn't have to be paralyzing. It’s time to recognize the opportunities around you, or even better, create them yourself. 🎧 In This Episode The Reality of Modern Design: Why the industry feels boxed in and how to break free from the daily grind.Hacking the Status Quo: How to find opportunities to experiment in environments resistant to change.Designing Better Maternity Care: Meghan’s firsthand insights into navigating and improving systems that have been stuck for ages.Overcoming Limiting Beliefs: Recognizing our own mental roadblocks about what design is "supposed" to do.Question Everything: Why having the courage to be "annoying" or disruptive is actually a designer's ultimate superpower. If you want to find ways to work on challenges that truly matter, this conversation is for you! What is the biggest limiting belief you’ve had to overcome in your design career? Let us know in the comments! Don't forget to Subscribe to stay updated on future episodes that help you make a positive impact through design. Enjoy the conversation and keep making a positive impact. ~ Marc [ 1. GUIDE 📺 ] 00:00 Welcome to episode 258 00:00 Introduction 00:45 Megan's Background 03:30 Invisible Constraints 05:45 Path to UX Design 09:15 Maternal Health Crisis 12:00 Pursuing a Doctorate 14:15 Improving Systems 21:00 Embracing Biases 25:15 Localized Solutions 31:00 Questioning HCD 37:15 Leverage Points 41:45 Managerialism Ideology 49:45 Institutional Deserts 56:00 Practical First Steps 59:15 Final Reflection [ 2. LINKS 🔗 ] LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/meghanbausone/ [ 3. NEXT STEP 💪 ] Looking for more? We've got you covered. Click the link below to join the Service Design Show community. https://servicedesignshow.com/subscribe/ You'll get access to inspiring stories and practical advice that helps to level up your service design career! [ 4. FIND THE SHOW ON ] Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/258-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/258-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/258-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/258-snipd

    Why the System Isn't Broken (and How to Change It Anyway) / Meghan Bausone / Episode #258
  5. Jul 2

    Uncovering The Futures Blind Spot in Service Design / Lucy Kimbell / Episode #257

    Are we actively designing our own future, or just everyone else's? 🔮 Discover how integrating "futures thinking" into your practice can help you spot industry shifts early and make better, more deliberate decisions today. It’s easy to get stuck in the day-to-day grind of deadlines and deliverables. But if we don't think about the long-term role of design, we risk building a world we don't actually want to live in. In this episode, Marc sits down with Professor Lucy Kimbell—author of the upcoming book "Futures for Design"—to tackle a fascinating issue: the "futures blind spot." We explore why designers work tirelessly to shape the future of healthcare or education, yet rarely apply that same forward-thinking lens to our own profession.   🎧 In This Episode The Futures Blind Spot: Why designers often fail to apply futures inquiry to their own professional practice.Strategic Uncertainties: Why studying what you don't know is far more valuable than trying to predict a perfect, clear picture of the future.Growing Your Futures Literacy: Practical, everyday ways to integrate futures thinking into your team's workflow without adding to the overwhelm.Spotting Weak Signals: How to identify early, quiet trends in the design industry before they evolve into dominant, disruptive forces. If you're ready to turn off autopilot and co-create the future of design with intention, hit subscribe so you never miss an episode! We also want to hear from you: If you had to pick one word to describe how you feel about the future of design, what would it be? Drop it in the comments or send us a message! As always, enjoy the conversation and keep making a positive impact!~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to episode 257 00:00 Episode Introduction 01:30 Breaking Design Autopilot 02:30 Design is Political 03:45 Designing on Autopilot 06:15 Consequences of Financialization 08:30 Surveillance Capitalism 12:00 Next-Gen Design Pressures 14:30 Futures for Design Book 17:00 Oxford Scenarios Methodology 21:00 Transactional vs Contextual 30:30 Institutional Fragmentation 32:45 Weak Signals in Design 35:00 Uncertainties to Scenarios 39:00 Scenario Planning vs Sci-Fi 45:00 Lucy Kimball's Journey 48:30 Limits of Speculative Design 52:15 Value of Writing 54:15 Present-Day Strategy 56:45 Managing Macro Chaos 1:00:45 The 10-Year Question 01:02:30 Final Thoughts --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucykimbell/UAL web profile and links to publications - https://researchers.arts.ac.uk/1178-lucy-kimbellDesign in 2040 project with UAL graduates  - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrcI04iMvZHJNQxiytGv1yU_iVtNchee_&si=nU5nQp9dYYAXsSmdComing Soon: Futures for Design: Uncertainties, Scenarios, Implications by Lucy Kimbell (Book) --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle --- [4. FIND THE SHOW ON] --- Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/257-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/257-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/257-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/257-snipd

    Uncovering The Futures Blind Spot in Service Design / Lucy Kimbell / Episode #257
  6. Jun 25

    Practicing Service Design Jiu-Jitsu to Get Things Shipped / JonDelina & Gabriel / Inside SD Ep. #14

    Tired of spending weeks on design strategy only to watch executives scrap two-thirds of your work? 📉 Discover how to drop your design ego, master the "politics" of implementation, and finally get your projects shipped. 🚀 In this episode of Inside Service Design, Marc sits down with JD and Gabriel to tackle one of the most frustrating realities for designers: the translation gap. If you've ever felt like clinging to your design artifacts is actually preventing you from making a lasting impact, this conversation will change how you approach your next stakeholder meeting. In this episode, we will cover: Why your best work doesn't matter if the people in the room don't understand why it's important.Why giving stakeholders a "boring" spreadsheet is often the smartest move you can make to drive decisions.JD’s framework for compromising today while guiding your team toward your overarching north star tomorrow.How to successfully transition from focusing purely on your craft to mastering the political landscape of an organization. Where do you draw the line between practicing "design jiu-jitsu" to get something shipped, and compromising the core values of your craft? Let us know in the comments or tag us on social media! If you want to bridge the gap between strategy and execution, hit subscribe so you never miss an episode, and share this with a fellow designer who needs to hear it today. Enjoy the episode and keep making a positive impact. ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to Inside Service Design EP 04:00 UX & Systems Thinking 07:00 What is a Business Service Architect? 09:15 Managing Strategy & Transformation 11:15 Journey Frameworks 15:00 Using AI for User Archetypes 16:30 Mapping Internal Workflows 20:00 In-House Practitioner Insights 21:15 Design Values in an AI World 24:00 Navigating Corporate Silos 29:00 Empathizing with Stakeholders 31:00 Proactive Conflict Management 35:00 Design vs. Corporate Politics 41:00 Why Research Fails Without Business Context 43:00 Miro Boards vs. Excel Sheets 44:15 Driving Value Through Deliverables 46:45 Proving Your Team's Worth 47:15 Design Jiu-Jitsu & The MVP 52:00 When UX Becomes Just a Verb 53:45 Defending Small Sample Sizes 55:30 Video Gen in Service Design 57:00 Wrap Up & Community Tool Prototype --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jondelina-buckley-0631a9https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabriel-leal-80604aa4/ --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle --- [4. FIND THE SHOW ON] --- Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-14-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-14-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-14-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-14-snipd

    Practicing Service Design Jiu-Jitsu to Get Things Shipped / JonDelina & Gabriel / Inside SD Ep. #14
  7. Jun 18

    How to Escape the Service Design Efficiency Trap / Nan O'Sullivan / Episode #256

    Over-optimized systems are quietly killing the human soul of our services by obsessing over speed and efficiency. In this episode, discover how to break free from the "efficiency trap," embrace design as a genuine practice of hope, and use localized indigenous wisdom to design with authentic care and deep community respect. 🎙️ In this episode The relentless pursuit of transactional and industrialized models has pushed design to prioritize cost-cutting over real human value. In this episode, we sit down with Nan O'Sullivan, former head of the School of Design Innovation at Victoria University, to unpack how to actively push back against this pervasive efficiency trap. We move past standard problem-solving frameworks to explore the transformative power of Mātauranga Māori, positionality, and why designers must learn to look in the mirror before looking out the window to serve others. Here is what we cover: Why treating design like an industrialized assembly line always strips out authentic human care and community reciprocity.How shifting your baseline away from negative problem-solving and toward a practice of hope allows you to forecast a vision of true systemic joy.How to use your positionality as a design professional not to feed your own ego, but to actively enhance the mana (the dignity and respect) of the communities you serve.Why standing out as a distinct human is your ultimate superpower as automated cogs and AI take over routine transactional outputs.How focusing on localized, relational impacts protects incoming practitioners from paralyzing climate and societal anxiety. What is the most important source that helps to ground your design decisions? When the path forward is unclear, where do you look for clues? Let me know, I really do read and reply to all responses. As always, enjoy the conversation and keep making a positive impact! ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to Episode 256 04:00 Practice of Hope 06:15 Indigenous Knowledge 09:15 Personal Values 14:15 Humanity Over Automation 17:00 Co-Design Responsibility 19:30 Reflection and Reflexivity 23:00 Core Curriculum 27:00 Local Grounding 33:00 Inward Research 38:30 Workforce Evolution 40:45 Corporate Accountability 45:15 Professional Bravery 47:15 Commercial Pressures 53:00 Relational Frameworks 55:00 Actionable Hope 57:15 Wrap-up --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- https://www.linkedin.com/in/nan-o-sullivan-45709759/ --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle [4. FIND THE SHOW ON] Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/256-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/256-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/256-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/256-snipd

    How to Escape the Service Design Efficiency Trap / Nan O'Sullivan / Episode #256
  8. Jun 11

    Selling Journey Management to Your VP / Journey Management Playbook S02E03

    Want to secure executive buy-in? Stop waiting for a strategic brief from leadership, learn how to pitch solutions that solve your VP's biggest headache. Tired of doing incredible journey mapping work only to realize you still aren't invited to the room where important business decisions are made? In this episode of the Journey Management Playbook, Martin and I break down a highly specific, 5-slide pitch designed to get you a seat at the executive table. Learn how to stop being viewed as just the "journey maps person" and start navigating boardroom politics like a pro. in this episode Why asking your VP what could get them fired is the ultimate shortcut to tapping into executive urgency. A tactical, step-by-step breakdown of how to write your own strategic brief and present a high-value proposition.How to handle heavy pushback from stakeholders and turn a painful "no" into meaningful progress.How to reposition customer experience (CX) from a minor workshop activity into a core business solution. We’ve put together an Objection Response Cheat Sheet with the most common pushbacks and ways you can navigate them. You can download it for free using the link in the show notes. Enjoy and keep making a positive impact. ~ Marc [1. LINKS 🔗 ] 👉 Playbook Slides - https://go.servicedesignshow.com/-0sy8👉 Objection Response Cheat Sheet - https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-11-objection-response-cheat-sheet-podcastThe Journey Management Playbook - https://www.theydo.com/resources/journey-management-playbook?utm_source=article&utm_medium=blog&utm_campaign=202605-Global-Marc [ 2. GUIDE 📺 ] 00:00 Season 2 Recap 02:00 Shifting Focus to Business Impact 04:45 The CX Trust Gap Explained 06:30 Breaking Out of the Workshop Box 11:15 Creating a High-Value Proposition 29:45 Repackaging for Time Constraints 35:30 Surface vs. Root Cause Problems 40:15 Aligning Strategy with Backlogs 51:00 Re-evaluating Urgency 55:30 Handling Objections & Silence 57:00 Setting 90-Day Timelines 1:00:00 Turbocharging Your Preparation 1:02:45 Overcoming Presentation Rejection 1:04:15 Wrap-Up --- [ 3. FIND THE SHOW ON ] --- Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-11-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-11-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-11-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-11-snipd

    Selling Journey Management to Your VP / Journey Management Playbook S02E03

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