Shifting Schools: Conversations for K12 Educators

Jeff Utecht & Tricia Friedman

Shifting Schools is a thought-provoking podcast that explores the latest trends, strategies, and tools in K-12 education. Hosted by educators Jeff Utecht and Tricia Friedman, the podcast provides a platform for teachers, administrators, and education thought leaders to share their experiences and insights on how to improve teaching and learning. From innovative approaches in classroom management to leveraging technology for personalized learning, Shifting Schools tackles the most pressing issues facing K12 educators today. Whether you are a seasoned teacher or a new educator, this podcast will inspire you to think outside the box and shift your educational approach. Tune in to Shifting Schools to gain new perspectives, share ideas, and join a community of passionate educators who are committed to making a positive impact in the lives of their students. Follow us at @shiftingschools on Twitter and @shiftingschoolspod on Instagram and Tiktok

  1. 54m ago

    Lisa Gardner on Creativity and Curiosity

    What can ELA teachers learn from a bestselling suspense novelist who begins writing without knowing who the villain is? In this episode of Shifting Schools, Tricia Friedman speaks with Lisa Gardner about the habits, questions, and research behind her novels. Their conversation offers ELA teachers a fresh way to think about character development, suspense, inquiry, and the creative conditions young writers need. Lisa explains that she does not begin with characters divided neatly into heroes and villains. She gives each person layers, contradictions, motivations, and a moral code. As the story develops, she allows the characters to reveal who they are. That process offers a useful alternative to writing instruction that asks students to plan every part of a story before they have had a chance to discover it. Lisa also shares how she researches fictional crimes by speaking with police officers, medical examiners, and other specialists. She does not ask only what would happen. She asks what highly capable people would notice, what they would try, and why their best efforts might still fail. For ELA classrooms, her process models research as part of imaginative writing rather than something reserved for essays and reports. The conversation also considers the role of walking, daydreaming, reading, games, puzzles, and unstructured time in creative thought. Lisa describes writing as an individual craft supported by a community of other writers, researchers, readers, and even her three dogs. In this episode, ELA teachers will hear ideas for helping students: Create characters with competing motives and believable moral codes Move beyond simple hero-and-villain categories Use research to make fictional worlds more convincing Treat unanswered questions as fuel for writing Experiment with discovery writing before committing to an outline Build suspense by asking why an obvious solution would not work Use walking, conversation, and time away from screens to generate ideas Give and seek feedback while preserving an individual creative voice See reading, games, and puzzles as part of a larger writing practice Lisa also introduces her latest novel, You'll Be Sorry, a suspense story involving a family that vanished 30 years ago, a small town filled with secrets, a mysterious couple who purchases the abandoned crime scene, and a dog who may know more than anyone else. This episode invites ELA teachers to consider a different starting point for writing instruction: What might students create if they were not required to know exactly where their stories were going before they began? Learn more about Lisa https://www.lisagardner.com/ Thank you to our show sponsor: Unfurl Learn more with Unfurl: https://unfurl.sh/ Are you subscribed to AI Forward? One lucky listener can win a pro account, be sure to subscribe to AI Forward to learn more: https://k12aileadershipbrief.substack.com/

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  3. Aug 10

    How to Raise a Reader from Birth with Sandra Magsamen

    What can a board book offer a baby who cannot yet speak or even hold it independently? Award-winning author, illustrator, and art therapist Sandra Magsamen joins Tricia to discuss Hello, Baby, her new board book created for children from birth to age three. With bright illustrations, melodic language, playful terms of endearment, and a mirror that places the baby inside the story, the book is designed to support far more than early literacy. Sandra explains how reading with a baby can build connection, vocabulary, attention, curiosity, and a growing sense of belonging. She also shares practical advice for parents, grandparents, and caregivers who may feel unsure about reading aloud: hold the baby close, play with the words, welcome the giggles, and do not worry about delivering a perfect performance. The conversation also considers what happens when adults treat books as objects children may freely touch, explore, drop, and even chew. Sandra and Tricia discuss why a home filled with accessible books and a healthy tolerance for "uh-oh" moments can help children associate reading with pleasure, discovery, and agency. Sandra closes by reflecting on her own growth as an artist. After more than 25 years of creating for children and families, she explains why successful artists still need to experiment, how becoming a grandmother is opening new creative directions, and why our work should be allowed to change as we do. In this conversation: What babies notice in illustrations How reading aloud supports bonding and early development Simple ways to make board books playful and interactive Why babies benefit from seeing themselves in a book The connection between reading, safety, and belonging Why children should be allowed to handle and explore books What mistakes and mess can contribute to creativity How Sandra continues to grow after a long creative career Hello, Baby is written and illustrated by Sandra Magsamen and published by Cartwheel Books, an imprint of Scholastic. It is intended for babies from birth to age three and includes an embedded mirror on its final spread. Learn more from Scholastic. Thank you to our show sponsor: Unfurl Learn more with Unfurl: https://unfurl.sh/ Are you subscribed to AI Forward? One lucky listener can win a pro account, be sure to subscribe to AI Forward to learn more: https://k12aileadershipbrief.substack.com/

  4. Aug 3

    Who Gets to Lead? Expanding Student Voice with Rachel Thrash

    When schools picture a student leader, they often imagine the confident speaker, the high achiever, or the student who already understands how to succeed within existing systems. But what about the students who are rarely invited to lead? In this episode, Tricia speaks with educator and author Rachel Thrash about expanding student leadership beyond the familiar few. Her book, Let the Learners Lead: Empowering Student Voice to Co-Create School Culture, presents leadership as something every young person can practice, not a privilege reserved for students who already fit a traditional leadership profile. Rachel explains how educators can move from simply asking for student input to genuinely co-creating with learners. She discusses why adults need the courage to admit they do not have every answer, what students gain when educators resist solving every problem for them, and how shared responsibility can strengthen student agency, belonging, and school culture. The conversation also offers practical tools schools can use to make student voice more authentic and inclusive. In this episode: Why traditional student leadership models leave many learners out The difference between student voice, student agency, and student leadership How co-creation changes the relationship between educators and students Why adults should resist rushing in to solve every student problem How uncertainty can become part of authentic leadership Practical ways to create more inclusive leadership opportunities How shared responsibility supports belonging and school culture What it means to treat leadership as a practice rather than a title This conversation is for teachers, school leaders, instructional coaches, and anyone seeking practical ways to increase student voice, agency, belonging, and participation in school decision-making. Featured guest: Rachel Thrash, educator and author of Let the Learners Lead: Empowering Student Voice to Co-Create School Culture https://www.routledge.com/Let-the-Learners-Lead-Empowering-Student-Voice-to-Co-Create-School-Culture/Thrash/p/book/9781041155713 Thank you to our show sponsor: Unfurl Learn more with Unfurl: https://unfurl.sh/ Are you subscribed to AI Forward? One lucky listener can win a pro account, be sure to subscribe to AI Forward to learn more: https://k12aileadershipbrief.substack.com/

  5. Jul 27

    How do we teach students to sit with evidence longer?

    What happens when historical research uncovers a truth you are not sure you want to know? In this episode of Shifting Schools, Tricia speaks with author Christine Kuehn and her husband and research partner, Mark Schiponi, about Family of Spies: A World War II Story of Nazi Espionage, Betrayal, and the Secret History Behind Pearl Harbor. Christine's investigation began with a startling discovery: members of her family had been deeply involved with the Nazi Party, and her grandfather had been convicted for his role connected to the attack on Pearl Harbor. What followed was a 30-year search through family testimony, declassified FBI files, National Archives records, historical accounts, photographs, and long-buried memories. Christine and Mark describe the emotional strain of researching a painful family history and the many times the project was packed away because the discoveries became too difficult to face. They also explain how they compared official records with family stories, handled contradictions, organized years of handwritten notes, and decided what evidence could be trusted. The conversation also examines the craft of making history readable. Christine and Mark wanted the book to reach people who might never choose a conventional work of World War II history. They discuss weaving the past together with Christine's present-day investigation, writing nonfiction with the momentum of a novel, and removing compelling material when it no longer served the larger story. For educators, the episode offers a useful exploration of historical inquiry, source evaluation, inherited narratives, memory, and the role storytelling plays in keeping difficult history visible. It raises questions that belong in history, humanities, media-literacy, and ELA classrooms: How do we respond when evidence challenges the stories we have inherited? What responsibilities come with uncovering painful history? How can writers make complex historical research accessible without weakening its accuracy? What can students learn by comparing personal testimony, archival documents, photographs, government records, and published histories? Christine also reflects on secrecy, shame, and the realization that people are not responsible for their ancestors' actions. They can, however, decide how honestly they will confront that history and what choices they will make in their own lives. In this episode: • The emotional cost of investigating a family's Nazi past • Using declassified FBI files and National Archives records • Comparing family memories with documentary evidence • Turning 30 years of research into a coherent narrative • Writing history for readers who do not consider themselves historians • Confronting inherited shame and family secrecy • Deciding what to remove when it no longer serves the story • Teaching difficult history through human stories • Responding to historical denial and misinformation Timestamps: 00:00 The emotional and practical challenges of the research 03:49 Organizing decades of evidence and handwritten notes 07:20 Why confronting painful truths can matter 11:36 Sharing a private family history with the public 15:15 Historical storytelling and what comes next 18:55 Creating the book's past-and-present structure 21:48 Knowing when a powerful passage must be removed About the book: Family of Spies by Christine Kuehn combines memoir, archival investigation, World War II history, Nazi espionage, and the secret history surrounding Pearl Harbor. The book follows Christine's effort to understand her family's involvement and the effects that secrecy had on later generations. Content note: This conversation discusses Nazism, antisemitism, the Holocaust, Pearl Harbor, family trauma, and inherited shame. Resources mentioned: Family of Spies by Christine Kuehn Christine Kuehn's Politics and Prose conversation The United States National Archives Declassified FBI records and Freedom of Information Act research Subscribe to Shifting Schools for conversations about education, historical and media literacy, emerging technology, storytelling, and the questions shaping how young people understand the world.

  6. Jul 22

    How Nolan's Odyssey and Cover Songs Help Us Talk About AI

    Christopher Nolan's Odyssey just earned nearly $300 million retelling a 3,000-year-old story — so what actually separates imitation from transformative interpretation? In this episode, Tricia makes the case that cover songs are the perfect entry point into the AI and creativity conversation for educators. You'll trace how Aretha Franklin re-authored Otis Redding's "Respect," why translator Emily Wilson's critique of Nolan's film proves that interpretive choices matter, and how three human skills — reflect, re-envision, rework — map directly onto UNESCO's vision of students as AI co-creators rather than passive users. Tricia also shares a new free resource, "What Exactly Is Human Nature?," an interactive timeline that lets you listen backwards through the many renditions of one iconic song. If you've been looking for an invitational, art-first metaphor to bring colleagues into the AI conversation, this one's for you. 00:00 – Nolan's Odyssey: 2 a.m. sold-out screenings for a 3,000-year-old story 02:22 – Can a cover ever beat the original? Aretha Franklin re-authors "Respect" 04:23 – Emily Wilson's critique + three skills: reflect, re-envision, rework 06:27 – The skills in practice, and UNESCO's students-as-co-creators framework 08:47 – New resource: "What Exactly Is Human Nature?" interactive timeline 10:43 – Your debate homework, and an invitation to email the show: info@shiftingschools.com Check out the resource: https://triciafriedman.com/what-exactly-is-human-nature/ Learn more about our incredible show producer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sagheer-m/

    How Nolan's Odyssey and Cover Songs Help Us Talk About AI
  7. Jul 20

    Ted Lasso's Cristo Fernández: Fútbol Is Life, and It's Never Too Late to Dream

    You know him as Dani Rojas on Ted Lasso. He's also a professional footballer with El Paso Locomotive FC, a filmmaker, and now the author of a bilingual picture book, Fútbol Is Life! / ¡Fútbol es vida!, illustrated by James Rey Sanchez. But before all of that? He was a life insurance salesman who sold nothing for a year.  This conversation is about what happens between the dream and the arriving. About injuries that turn out to be redirections. About why "be curious, not judgmental" might be the most useful thing we can teach — and keep learning ourselves. In this episode: (00:01) The gotcha question: is Cristo actually a superhero? (01:27) The family example: why "the more you give, the more you receive" (03:32) What team sports teach us about not being the star (04:19) Injuries, rejection, and becoming a hustler: "I love when someone tells me no" (09:22) The market scene: remembering to pause and notice (10:31) What Dani Rojas reminds Cristo about joy (12:55) Embracing where you come from as a superpower (14:09) Collaboration, and never thinking you know everything (16:30) Why a children's book is the perfect format for dreaming big Quotes worth stealing: "I love when someone tells me no. It might not be no here, but it might be yes somewhere else." "Aim for the moon. If you don't hit the moon, you hit a star. And if you don't hit a star, you hit some space dust — and that's fine too." "There's not one single way of being Mexican or being American or being Latino. We all bring something great to the table." Links: The book (Barnes & Noble): https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/futbol-is-life-futbol-es-vida-cristo-fernandez/1148772346 More episodes: https://pod.shiftingschools.com

  8. Jul 18

    When Students Go After Real Problems

    When Alex Campbell set out to teach sociology through true crime, he wasn't trying to catch a murderer. He was trying to make the stakes real. Nine years later, his high school students in Appalachia have restored names to victims of the "redheaded murders," helped families, and become the subject of a limited series with a perfect critic score. But as Alex tells it, the thing that mattered most was never on the syllabus: how much his students came to care. In this conversation, Alex and Tricia dig into what it actually takes to hand young people a real problem — and why that's the whole point. In this episode: Why sociology and murder aren't apples and oranges — and how high stakes bring out the best in students The surprise Alex didn't plan for: students connecting with victims who died decades before they were born Schools as "the institution best at separating people" — and how project-based learning breaks down the walls His three-part test for a real project: passion-driven, community-focused, interdisciplinary Practical, permission-giving advice for teachers who find this exciting and scary — start small, start with a partner, use the resources that already exist "You don't work for me": how buy-in reframes classroom management and reaches the students who've stopped believing in school's promises Civics you can feel — freedom-of-information requests, and why John Benet Ramsey has a thousand websites and Lori Pennell had almost none The creative gamble behind the series: victim-forward, not offender-forward, and a true-crime story that doesn't end tied up in a bow Portraying Appalachia and teenagers with authenticity instead of stereotype Using the series for professional development — what to watch for, and why it might matter more than you'd expect Building a house, powerlifting, and teaching yourself: Alex on learning as a lifelong series of real problems to solve   Watch: Murder 101 is streaming now.

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Shifting Schools is a thought-provoking podcast that explores the latest trends, strategies, and tools in K-12 education. Hosted by educators Jeff Utecht and Tricia Friedman, the podcast provides a platform for teachers, administrators, and education thought leaders to share their experiences and insights on how to improve teaching and learning. From innovative approaches in classroom management to leveraging technology for personalized learning, Shifting Schools tackles the most pressing issues facing K12 educators today. Whether you are a seasoned teacher or a new educator, this podcast will inspire you to think outside the box and shift your educational approach. Tune in to Shifting Schools to gain new perspectives, share ideas, and join a community of passionate educators who are committed to making a positive impact in the lives of their students. Follow us at @shiftingschools on Twitter and @shiftingschoolspod on Instagram and Tiktok

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