Talking Inclusion… With Geoff Barton

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A podcast from the IPPR Inclusion Taskforce What does truly inclusive education look like, and how can we make it better? Hosted by Geoff Barton, former general secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL) and chair of the IPPR Inclusion Taskforce, this series features conversations with parents, teachers, young people, and experts from across the UK. With support from Margaret Mulholland, SEN and Inclusion Policy Specialist at ASCL, the podcast asks what’s working, what’s not, and where change should begin. Talking Inclusion blends lived experience with policy insight

  1. 16시간 전

    "It’s not the parents who are broken, it’s the system" with Tania Tirraoro & Sharon Smith

    In this episode, Geoff Barton speaks with Tania Tirraoro and Sharon Smith of Special Needs Jungle about the lived realities behind SEND policy. They share powerful personal stories of advocating for their children, the systemic barriers families face, and why EHCPs aren’t the problem—underfunding, poor training, and lack of accountability are.

    30분

  2. 2일 전

    "Support before the diagnosis" with Dr Susana Castro Kemp

    In this episode, Margaret Mulholland is joined by Dr. Susana Castro Kemp, Associate Professor of Psychology at UCL and Director of UCL's Centre for Inclusive Education. Drawing on international research to explore how early intervention, family partnerships, and cross-sector collaboration can transform SEND provision from Finland’s universal early-childhood screening to rethinking workforce training and professional development.

    17분

  3. 5일 전

    “We’re in education to serve children” with Georgina Ellis

    In this episode, Geoff Barton talks with Georgina Ellis, executive director of SEND at the Unity Schools Partnership - a family of 40 schools across Suffolk, Essex, and Norfolk. Sharing how Unity is integrating mainstream and specialist provision through SEND units, specialist schools, and shared best practice across the trust. Georgina emphasises one simple principle: inclusion works best when schools, families, and local authorities work together to put children first.

    11분

  4. 9월 17일

    “We need to see children in context, not categories” with Dr Sami Timimi

    In this episode, Geoff Barton speaks with Dr Sami Timimi - consultant child and adolescent psychiatrist, psychotherapist, and author of Searching for Normal. Together, they explore the controversial question: are we over-diagnosing and over-medicalising children?

    29분

  5. 9월 15일

    “Fixing SEND by fixing education” with Stephen Kingdom

    In this episode, Margaret Mulholland speaks with Stephen Kingdom, campaign manager from the Disabled Children’s Partnership and former Deputy Director for SEND at the Department for Education. Drawing on decades of experience, Stephen argues that the question isn’t simply how to “fix” the SEND system, but how to build an education, health, and social care system that works for all children.

    11분

  6. 9월 12일

    “Square pegs, round holes” with Ellie Costello

    In this episode of Talking Inclusion, Geoff Barton talks with Ellie Costello, executive director of Square Peg, an organisation representing families of children who struggle to access or remain in education. Reflecting in part on her lived parental experience of what inclusion does and doesn’t feel like for too many young people. They discuss why the current system too often fails young people who don’t 'fit' the model of mainstream schooling, and the urgent need for an education system that builds equity in by design, not as an add-on.

    21분

  7. 9월 10일

    “We must do better for our children” with Dame Rachel de Souza

    In this episode, Geoff Barton speaks with Dame Rachel de Souza, the Children’s Commissioner for England, about her bold new Children’s Plan. Based on conversations with over a million children and responses from 90% of headteachers across the country, the plan lays out a vision for tackling some of the hardest issues in education: from SEND provision and waiting times to mental health, attendance, poverty, and the collapse of wider services.

    13분

  8. 9월 8일

    "Inclusion on the margins" with Sarah Johnson

    In this latest episode Geoff Barton talks to Sarah Johnson, president of PRUsAP - the organisation that represents pupil referral units and alternative provision - about the important role these places play in helping children and young people to feel a sense of achievement and belonging. With over 20 years’ experience working with excluded children, Sarah explains how PRUs and AP settings can transform lives by providing belonging, achievement, and specialist support for young people too often pushed to the margins of education. She highlights examples of good practice, the importance of early intervention, and the need for stability and joined-up working between schools, health, and social care.

    16분
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A podcast from the IPPR Inclusion Taskforce What does truly inclusive education look like, and how can we make it better? Hosted by Geoff Barton, former general secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL) and chair of the IPPR Inclusion Taskforce, this series features conversations with parents, teachers, young people, and experts from across the UK. With support from Margaret Mulholland, SEN and Inclusion Policy Specialist at ASCL, the podcast asks what’s working, what’s not, and where change should begin. Talking Inclusion blends lived experience with policy insight

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    2025년
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