The 29 Steps podcas‪t‬ Jason Aten and Jess Pingrey

Yes, we skipped last week. Life happens. To make up for it, this week, we've got a piece of Jason's interview with David Smith, the developer behind Widgetsmith, which was the top free app in the iOS App Store for weeks last year. 

Jason and Jess talk about the holidays, along with a few of their favorite gifts this year. Then, looking ahead, they get into some of the tools and tips that can help everyone start 2021 productively. 

Jason and Jess talk about the things they learned this year, especially about working remotely, as well as personally. Maybe more important, they talk about what they look forward to in the coming year. There's also plenty of conversation about Christmas cookies, because, well, decorating Christmas cookies on Zoom is the most 2020 thing we can think of. Also, Jason talks a bit about his experience using the AirPods Max. 

We made it 20 episodes, but there's no time for celebration. Jason and Jess talk about tips for being productive and avoiding burnout while working from home, especially considering a lot of people are going to be doing just that for a while. Of course, they also had to talk about how much Jess likes her new MacBook Air, and the recent announcement of Apple’s AirPods Max, which are $550 headphones. Does anyone need $550 headphones?

Mostly, Jason and Jess talk about how we're all doing pretty much everything wrong. Okay, maybe not everything, but there's a list, and we talk about it. Sure, we made it through Thanksgiving, but it was a lot different than in the past. That includes shopping for gifts on Black Friday/Cyber Monday but doesn't stop there. 

Happy Thanksgiving. Jason and Jess talk a little about her new M1 MacBook Air, but mostly about the things we're looking forward to about the holidays. Of course, that includes our favorite traditions and Christmas movies. No, it's not too early for Christmas movies. For that matter, Jason already has two Christmas trees up already.