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Our goal is to speak with luminaries and experts in and around massage and bodywork to help expound upon and better understand our profession and our practices.

The ABMP Podcast | Speaking With the Massage & Bodywork Profession Associated Bodywork & Massage Professionals

    • Health & Fitness
    • 4.9 • 64 Ratings

Our goal is to speak with luminaries and experts in and around massage and bodywork to help expound upon and better understand our profession and our practices.

    Functional Therapy for the Geriatric Population with Dr. Joi Edwards

    Functional Therapy for the Geriatric Population with Dr. Joi Edwards

    Bodywork for the geriatric population helps regain strength, balance, coordination, and a level of functioning—but it also creates a more independent lifestyle. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Kristin and Darren are joined by Dr. Joi Edwards to discuss cupping for the geriatric community, how she was drawn to working with the elderly, and her approach when setting goals for these types of patients.
    Dr. Joi is a licensed massage therapist and a licensed physical therapist. She has a bachelor’s degree in parks and recreation, a doctorate in physical therapy, and specializes in orthopedic manual therapy. She has extensive experience in the orthopedic field with both injuries and surgical conditions. She works full time as a physical therapist, owns a continuing education company, Owlchemy Education, and successfully fuses the science of orthopedics with the art and intuition of massage, bridging the worlds together with the magic of silicone cups. Learn more at www.owlchemyeducation.com.
     
    Hosts:
     
    Darren Buford is senior director of communications and editor-in-chief for ABMP. He is editor of Massage & Bodywork magazine and has worked for ABMP for 22 years, and been involved in journalism at the association, trade, and consumer levels for 24 years. He has served as board member and president of the Western Publishing Association, as well as board member for Association Media & Publishing. Contact him at editor@abmp.com.
    Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at ABMP. She loves creating continuing education courses, events, and resources to support massage therapists and bodyworkers as they enhance their lives and practices. Contact her at ce@abmp.com.
      
    Sponsors:
     
    Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com 
     
    Elements Massage: http://www.elementsmassage.com/abmp
     
    Precision Neuromuscular Therapy: www.pnmt.org
     
    Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.    
                    
    Website: anatomytrains.com    
                      
    Email: info@anatomytrains.com          
     
    Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains 
                        
    Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial
     
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA  
     
    Founded by a massage therapist for massage therapists, the Elements Massage® brand is a network of independently owned and operated studios dedicated to changing lives--including yours!  The Elements Massage brand believes massage therapists deserve a supportive team, business and marketing resources, and the chance to learn as much as they want, so many Elements Massage studios offer and reimburse continuing education on an ongoing basis. It's no surprise Elements Massage therapist and client satisfaction leads the industry. That's because from day one, the brand has kept an unmatched commitment to deliver the best therapeutic massage experiences possible for both clients and massa

    • 33 min
    Cardiac Catheter Complications: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner

    Cardiac Catheter Complications: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner

    A client had a cardiac catheterization complication and had to be shocked back into a functional rhythm. Now he wants a massage, and his doctor seems to be on board. What is a cardiac catheterization, what does it mean to be shocked back into rhythm, and what does it mean for decisions about massage? In this episode of I Have a Client Who, Ruth explores this issue and answers these questions.
     
    Sponsors:  
     
    Books of Discovery: www.booksofdiscovery.com  
     
    Advanced-Trainings: www.advanced-trainings.com
     
    Host Bio:        
              
    Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider. She wrote A Massage Therapist’s Guide to Pathology, now in its seventh edition, which is used in massage schools worldwide. Werner is also a long-time Massage & Bodywork columnist, most notably of the Pathology Perspectives column. Werner is also ABMP’s partner on Pocket Pathology, a web-based app and quick reference program that puts key information for nearly 200 common pathologies at your fingertips. Werner’s books are available at www.booksofdiscovery.com. And more information about her is available at www.ruthwerner.com.   
                   
    Recent Articles by Ruth:  
     
    “Working with Invisible Pain,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, November/December 2022, page 36, http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1481961-november-december-2022/38      
     
    “Unpacking the Long Haul,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, January/February 2022, page 35, www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1439667-january-february-2022/36.
     
    “Chemotherapy-Induced Peripheral Neuropathy and Massage Therapy,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, September/October 2021, page 33, http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1402696-september-october-2021/34. 
            
    “Pharmacology Basics for Massage Therapists,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, July/August 2021, page 32, www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1384577-july-august-2021/34.    
     
    Resources: 
     
    Pocket Pathology: https://www.abmp.com/abmp-pocket-pathology-app
     
    Cardiac Catheterization (2021). Available at: https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/cardiac-catheterization
     
    Cardiac Catheterization | American Heart Association (no date). Available at: https://www.heart.org/en/health-topics/heart-attack/diagnosing-a-heart-attack/cardiac-catheterization
     
    Contributors, W.E. (no date) Cardiac Catheterization, WebMD. Available at: https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/cardiac-catheterization1 (Accessed: 16 November 2022).
     
    Electrical Cardioversion | Johns Hopkins Medicine (no date). Available at: https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/electrical-cardioversion
     
    Massage & Bodywork - NOVEMBER | DECEMBER 2020 (no date). Available at: http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1299745-november-december-2020/40?
     
    What is Defibrillation Used For? (no date) Cleveland Clinic. Available at: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/23021-defibrillation
     
    About our Sponsor:
     
    About Til Luchau and Advanced-Trainings.com:  
    As a Certified Advanced Rolfer™, Til was on the faculty of the Dr. Ida Rolf Institute® for 20 years, where he served as Coordinator and Faculty Chair of the Foundations of Rolfing Structural Integration program. The author of the Advanced Myofascial Techniques textbook series (which has been translated into 6 languages), his regular Myofascial Techniques and Somatic Edge columns have been featured in Massage & Bodywork magazine since 2009, and (along with Whitney Lowe) he co-hosts the popular Thinking Practitioner Podcast. He is the Director of Advanced-Trainings.com which since 1985 has offered short, credit-approved professional trainings and certification

    • 12 min
    The Paradox of the Intercostals: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney

    The Paradox of the Intercostals: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney

    You might be familiar with the Ship of Theseus. But do you know about the Paradox of the Intercostals? They both involve planks. And they both raise some interesting questions. In this episode of The Rebel MT, join Allison as she compares Theseus’s Paradox to the quandary that are the intercostal muscles. Perhaps you have some answers to an age-old query that has been perplexing humans for eons.


    Host:     
                
    Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com     
          
    Allison’s website: www.rebelmassage.com          
              
    Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber. You can find her massage tutorials at YouTube.com/RebelMassage. She is also passionate about creating products that are kind, simple, and productive for therapists to use in their practices. Her products, along with access to her blog and CE opportunities, can be found at rebelmassage.com.        
         
    Allison’s column in Massage & Bodywork magazine:  
     
    “The QL and the Psoas: The Epitome of Codependency” by Allison Denney, Massage & Bodywork magazine, January/February 2022, page 24. 
     
    “The Hand: A User’s Guide,” by Allison Denney, Massage & Bodywork magazine. November/December 2021, page 81.
     
    “Feelization: Connect with Clients on a Deeper Level,” by Allison Denney, Massage & Bodywork magazine, September/October 2021, page 85.
     
    This podcast sponsored by:  
     
    Rebel Massage Therapist: http://www.rebelmassage.com
     
    Milk + Honey: milkandhoneyspa.com
     
    Rebel Massage Therapist:
    My name is Allison. And I am not your typical massage therapist. After 20 years of experience and thousands of clients, I have learned that massage therapy is SO MUCH more than a relaxing experience at a spa. I see soft tissue as more than merely a physical element but a deeply complex, neurologically driven part of who you are. I use this knowledge to work WITH you—not ON you—to create change that works. This is the basis of my approach. As a massage therapist, I have worked in almost every capacity, including massage clinics, physical therapy clinics, chiropractor offices, spas, private practice, and teaching. I have learned incredible techniques and strategies from each of my experiences. In my 20 years as a massage therapist, I have never stopped growing. I currently have a private practice based out of Long Beach, California, where I also teach continuing education classes and occasionally work on my kids. If they’re good.
     
    website: www.rebelmassage.com
     
    FB: facebook.com/RebelMassage
     
    IG: instagram.com/rebelmassagetherapist
     
    YouTube: youtube.com/c/RebelMassage
     
    email: rebelmassagetherapist@gmail.com
     
    Milk + Honey
     
    Award-winning day spa milk + honey is currently hiring Licensed Massage Therapists in Texas, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Miami.  
     
    Milk + honey is committed to helping employees achieve their personal and professional goals by offering competitive benefits, and an industry-leading compensation program that takes a holistic view of performance and tenure, allowing team members to take charge and own their own growth
     
    Visit milkandhoneyspa.com/careers or find us on Instagram at instagram.com/milkandhoneyspa to learn more about what makes milk + honey a great place to work and submit your application.
     

    • 15 min
    Integrative Touch with Shay Beider

    Integrative Touch with Shay Beider

    Integrative Touch (InTouch) works to change the way people experience health care by supporting caregivers and families whose children have special health or medical needs. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Kristin speaks with the founder of Integrative Touch, Shay Beider, about what led her to start Integrative Touch, how their mission of whole child, whole family, whole community developed, and why understanding child development plays a crucial role in how you approach a session.
    Beider has been a pioneer in the field of Integrative Medicine for 20 years. She is the founder and Executive Director of Integrative Touch, a nonprofit with an international healing program for individuals experiencing high-impact trauma and illness. Beider is a frequent public speaker on wellness topics and hosts the popular Conversations on Healing podcast, with listeners in more than 100 countries. She started Integrative Touch therapy and teaches internationally. She was awarded the Women’s Studies Achievement Award from UCLA and is recognized by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation as a Pioneer for Children’s Wellbeing.
     
    Resources:
     
    Integrative Touch: IntegrativeTouch.org
     
    Gabor Mate’s website: drgabormate.com
     
    Bessel Van der Kolk’s website: besselvanderkolk.com
     
    Stephen Porges’ website: stephenporges.com
     
    Host:
     
    Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at ABMP. She loves creating continuing education courses, events, and resources to support massage therapists and bodyworkers as they enhance their lives and practices. Contact her at ce@abmp.com.
      
    Sponsors:
     
    Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com 
     
    Elements Massage: http://www.elementsmassage.com/abmp
     
    Precision Neuromuscular Therapy: www.pnmt.org
     
    Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.    
                    
    Website: anatomytrains.com    
                      
    Email: info@anatomytrains.com          
     
    Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains 
                        
    Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial
     
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA  
     
    Founded by a massage therapist for massage therapists, the Elements Massage® brand is a network of independently owned and operated studios dedicated to changing lives--including yours!  The Elements Massage brand believes massage therapists deserve a supportive team, business and marketing resources, and the chance to learn as much as they want, so many Elements Massage studios offer and reimburse continuing education on an ongoing basis. It's no surprise Elements Massage therapist and client satisfaction leads the industry. That's because from day one, the brand has kept an unmatched commitment to deliver the best therapeutic massage experiences possible for both clients and massage therapists. Elements Massage studios expects the best. So should you. If this sounds like a fit, reac

    • 25 min
    Scheuermann’s Disease: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner

    Scheuermann’s Disease: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner

    A client has Scheuermann’s disease: a genetic malformation of vertebral bodies that arises during adolescence. But the client also has some other issues: anxiety, joint and back pain, clicking, popping, and crepitus. How much of this is due to Scheuermann’s disease, and how might manual therapy be able to help?
    Plus, in this episode of “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner, we get to talk about Schmorl’s nodes!
     
    Sponsors:  
     
    Books of Discovery: www.booksofdiscovery.com  
     
    Advanced-Trainings: www.advanced-trainings.com
     
    Host Bio:        
              
    Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider. She wrote A Massage Therapist’s Guide to Pathology, now in its seventh edition, which is used in massage schools worldwide. Werner is also a long-time Massage & Bodywork columnist, most notably of the Pathology Perspectives column. Werner is also ABMP’s partner on Pocket Pathology, a web-based app and quick reference program that puts key information for nearly 200 common pathologies at your fingertips. Werner’s books are available at www.booksofdiscovery.com. And more information about her is available at www.ruthwerner.com.   
                                  
    Recent Articles by Ruth:      
     
    “Working with Invisible Pain,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, November/December 2022, page 36, http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1481961-november-december-2022/38 
     
    “Unpacking the Long Haul,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, January/February 2022, page 35, www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1439667-january-february-2022/36.
    “Chemotherapy-Induced Peripheral Neuropathy and Massage Therapy,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, September/October 2021, page 33, http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1402696-september-october-2021/34. 
            
    “Pharmacology Basics for Massage Therapists,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, July/August 2021, page 32, www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1384577-july-august-2021/34.    
     
    Resources: 
     
    Pocket Pathology: https://www.abmp.com/abmp-pocket-pathology-app
     
    Administrator (no date) Kyphosis. Available at: https://rothmanortho.com/specialties/conditions/kyphosis (Accessed: 8 November 2022).
     
    Bezalel, T. et al. (2014) ‘Scheuermann’s disease: Current diagnosis and treatment approach’, Journal of Back and Musculoskeletal Rehabilitation, 27(4), pp. 383–390. Available at: https://doi.org/10.3233/BMR-140483.
     
    knadmin (2017) ‘Scheuermann’s disease’, PM&R KnowledgeNow, 10 March. Available at: https://now.aapmr.org/scheuermanns-disease/ (Accessed: 8 November 2022).
     
    Mansfield, J.T. and Bennett, M. (2022) Scheuermann Disease, StatPearls [Internet]. StatPearls Publishing. Available at: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK499966/ (Accessed: 8 November 2022).
     
    Scheuermann’s Disease | Kingsley Physio | More than your local Physio (no date). Available at: https://kingsleyphysio.com/common-conditions/scheuermanns-disease/ (Accessed: 8 November 2022).
     
    About our Sponsor:
     
    About Til Luchau and Advanced-Trainings.com:  
    As a Certified Advanced Rolfer™, Til was on the faculty of the Dr. Ida Rolf Institute® for 20 years, where he served as Coordinator and Faculty Chair of the Foundations of Rolfing Structural Integration program. The author of the Advanced Myofascial Techniques textbook series (which has been translated into 6 languages), his regular Myofascial Techniques and Somatic Edge columns have been featured in Massage & Bodywork magazine since 2009, and (along with Whitney Lowe) he co-hosts the popular Thinking Practitioner Podcast. He is the Director of Advanced-Trainings.com which since 1985 has offered short, credit-ap

    • 15 min
    Cornerstones: The ABMP Instructor Development Program with Bob Benson

    Cornerstones: The ABMP Instructor Development Program with Bob Benson

    We know the massage and bodywork community is full of passionate instructors possessing caring hearts and expert hands-on skills who give their all to students. But so many are often trained in the “trial by fire” method. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Kristin and Darren speak with ABMP Chairman Bob Benson about his motivation for creating Cornerstones, the ABMP Instructor Development Program, why there is a need for this type of program in massage education, and why he was committed to creating this resource for the profession.
    Bob Benson is Associated Bodywork & Massage Professionals’ (ABMP) chairman of the board. Taking the reins in 1996, Benson has served as ABMP’s president and CEO. Benson is a champion of the massage and bodywork profession, serving on the board of directors of CAMTC, enlisting ABMP’s resources toward the development of the Entry-Level Analysis Project, and spearheading the development of Cornerstones: The ABMP Instructor Development Program. Under his 26 years of leadership, Benson helped grow ABMP into a leading association in the profession, and created sister associations for estheticians, cosmetologists, and nail professionals.
     
    Resources:
     
    Get Started Now with Cornerstones: ABMP Education Center
     
    Hosts:
     
    Darren Buford is senior director of communications and editor-in-chief for ABMP. He is editor of Massage & Bodywork magazine and has worked for ABMP for 22 years, and been involved in journalism at the association, trade, and consumer levels for 24 years. He has served as board member and president of the Western Publishing Association, as well as board member for Association Media & Publishing. Contact him at editor@abmp.com.
    Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at ABMP. She loves creating continuing education courses, events, and resources to support massage therapists and bodyworkers as they enhance their lives and practices. Contact her at ce@abmp.com.
     
    Sponsors:
     
    Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com 
     
    Elements Massage: http://www.elementsmassage.com/abmp
     
    Precision Neuromuscular Therapy: www.pnmt.org
     
    Massage Heights: www.massageheights.com/careers
     
    Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.    
                    
    Website: anatomytrains.com    
                      
    Email: info@anatomytrains.com          
     
    Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains 
                        
    Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial
     
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA  
     
    Founded by a massage therapist for massage therapists, the Elements Massage® brand is a network of independently owned and operated studios dedicated to changing lives--including yours!  The Elements Massage brand believes massage therapists deserve a supportive team, business and marketing resources, and the chance to learn as much as they want, so many Elements Massage studio

    • 28 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
64 Ratings

64 Ratings

JONNYOZMAN ,

This is free?

ABMP is a class act, as far as trade associations go, and this podcast is a good example.

Very accessible even to the massage enthusiast who wants to dig a little deeper into their condition or, simply educate themselves about myriad styles and approaches to bodywork available.

(PS Would love to hear something from ABMP on monkeypox, if standard precautions for rash are out-the-window, how long it stays on surfaces, etc.)

crxpat ,

Followed Allison Here

Found this podcast because I love Allison Denney’s teaching style. So glad she is a part of this podcast. As expected, Allison is thorough and detailed. I’m also enjoying of the other episodes. Such a joy to have a podcast home for massage therapist.

patricia micaela bessa ,

Love rebel massage

I always watch the videos of Rebel massage and I was super excited when I found out this podcast
Very informative

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