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Our goal is to speak with luminaries and experts in and around massage and bodywork to help expound upon and better understand our profession and our practices.

The ABMP Podcast | Speaking With the Massage & Bodywork Profession Associated Bodywork & Massage Professionals

    • Health & Fitness
    • 4.9 • 85 Ratings

Our goal is to speak with luminaries and experts in and around massage and bodywork to help expound upon and better understand our profession and our practices.

    Avoiding the Sunk Cost Trap: “Business or Pressure” with Allissa Haines

    Avoiding the Sunk Cost Trap: “Business or Pressure” with Allissa Haines

    Sometimes, we overvalue the time, energy, or money we put into a project, which clouds our decision-making. Business or Pressure host Allissa Haines talks about the sunk cost trap—and how to avoid it—in your massage business.
     
    Host:
    Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community.
     
    Author links:
     
    Website: www.deepbreathdigital.com/community
     
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deepbreathcommunity/
     
    Resources:
    The Good Enough Job: Reclaiming Life from Work: https://www.simonestolzoff.com/
     
    Sponsors:
     
    Jojoba: www.jojobacompany.com
     
    HobaCare Jojoba is a premium quality, 100% pure jojoba oil that is highly beneficial for massage therapists. As a single-ingredient product, it aligns perfectly with holistic practices, providing an all-natural, chemical-free massage medium option. Jojoba oil closely resembles human sebum, which allows it to absorb easily and deeply into the skin, delivering a non-greasy, moisturizing experience that doesn't clog pores or cause allergic reactions. This unique property makes it an excellent medium for massage, enhancing tactile contact without leaving an oily residue. HobaCare Jojoba is also shelf stable and will not stain natural fiber sheets. By choosing HobaCare Jojoba, massage therapists can enhance their practice, offering clients a superior, skin-friendly experience that promotes both skin health and overall well-being.
    Website: www.hobacare.com

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jojobacompany

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jojobacompany
     

    • 8 min
    Fentanyl Patches – Another Look: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner

    Fentanyl Patches – Another Look: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner

    A client uses fentanyl patches to manage chronic pain from a back injury. What kind of risk does this present to the therapist? And, if we’re not careful, the bigger risk might be to the client. Check it out on this episode of “I Have a Client Who . . .” with Ruth Werner.
    Resources:
     
    Cai, B., Engqvist, H. and Bredenberg, S. (2015) ‘Development and evaluation of a tampering resistant transdermal fentanyl patch’, International Journal of Pharmaceutics, 488(1), pp. 102–107. Available at: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ijpharm.2015.04.061.
    Commissioner, O. of the (2023) ‘Accidental Exposures to Fentanyl Patches Continue to Be Deadly to Children’, FDA [Preprint]. Available at: https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/accidental-exposures-fentanyl-patches-continue-be-deadly-children (Accessed: 4 April 2024).
    ‘Drug Overdoses - Data Details’ (no date) Injury Facts. Available at: https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/drugoverdoses/data-details/ (Accessed: 4 April 2024).
    Duragesic Transdermal: Uses, Side Effects, Interactions, Pictures, Warnings & Dosing - WebMD (no date). Available at: https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-14008/duragesic-transdermal/details (Accessed: 4 April 2024).
    Ep 186 – Fentanyl Patches: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner (2022) Associated Bodywork & Massage Professionals. Available at: https://www.abmp.com/podcasts/ep-186-fentanyl-patches-i-have-client-who-pathology-conversations-ruth-werner (Accessed: 4 April 2024).
    Equity--OS-OPAE--1600, O. of P.A. and (no date) Fentanyl Exposure in Public Places | Washington State Department of Health. Available at: https://doh.wa.gov/community-and-environment/opioids/fentanyl-exposure-public-places (Accessed: 4 April 2024).
    Fentanyl Facts (2024). Available at: https://www.cdc.gov/stopoverdose/fentanyl/index.html (Accessed: 4 April 2024).
    Khan, S. and Sharman, T. (2024) ‘Transdermal Medications’, in StatPearls. Treasure Island (FL): StatPearls Publishing. Available at: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK556035/ (Accessed: 4 April 2024).
    Kim, T.S. et al. (2015) ‘Comparison of adhesion and dissolution of fentanyl patches: Fentadur® and Durogesic DTrans®’, Journal of Pharmaceutical Investigation, 45(5), pp. 475–480. Available at: https://doi.org/10.1007/s40005-015-0195-y.
    Mann, B., News, A.P.-K.H. and Bebinger, M. (2023) ‘In 2023 fentanyl overdoses ravaged the U.S. and fueled a new culture war fight’, NPR, 28 December. Available at: https://www.npr.org/2023/12/28/1220881380/overdose-fentanyl-drugs-addiction (Accessed: 4 April 2024).
    Overdose (no date) Drug Policy Alliance. Available at: https://drugpolicy.org/overdose/ (Accessed: 5 April 2024).
    Prausnitz, M.R. and Langer, R. (2008) ‘Transdermal drug delivery’, Nature Biotechnology, 26(11), pp. 1261–1268. Available at: https://doi.org/10.1038/nbt.1504.
    Shearn, I.T. (2023) Fentanyl myth: Police cry overdose, facts prove otherwise, NJ Spotlight News. Available at: https://www.njspotlightnews.org/special-report/fentanyl-myth-police-cry-overdose-facts-prove-otherwise/ (Accessed: 5 April 2024).
    Using Skin Patch Medicines Safely (no date). Available at: https://www.poison.org/articles/using-skin-patch-medicines-safely (Accessed: 4 April 2024).
    Wong, W.F. et al. (2023) ‘Recent Advancement of Medical Patch for Transdermal Drug Delivery’, Medicina, 59(4), p. 778. Available at: https://doi.org/10.3390/medicina59040778.
     
    Host:
     
    Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider. She wrote A Massage Therapist’s Guide to Pathology, now in its seventh edition, which is used in massage schools worldwide. Werner is also a long-time Massage & Bodywork columnist, most notably of the Pathology Perspectives column. Werner is also ABMP’s partner on Pocket Pathology, a web-ba

    • 15 min
    The Thumb: The Rogue Digit: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney

    The Thumb: The Rogue Digit: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney

    The thumb seems to live in its own reality. That's because it does. In this episode of the Rebel MT, Allison describes how the thumb is like a digit that has gone rogue and explains how getting to understand its plane of existence can help how you approach this funny piece of anatomy.
    Host:     
                
    Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com     
          
    Allison’s website: www.rebelmassage.com          
              
    Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber. You can find her massage tutorials at YouTube.com/RebelMassage. She is also passionate about creating products that are kind, simple, and productive for therapists to use in their practices. Her products, along with access to her blog and CE opportunities, can be found at rebelmassage.com.
    This podcast sponsored by:  
    Rebel Massage Therapist: http://www.rebelmassage.com
    Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com 
    Elements Massage: www.elementsmassage.com/abmp
    Earthlite: www.earthlite.com
     
    Rebel Massage Therapist:
    My name is Allison. And I am not your typical massage therapist. After 20 years of experience and thousands of clients, I have learned that massage therapy is SO MUCH more than a relaxing experience at a spa. I see soft tissue as more than merely a physical element but a deeply complex, neurologically driven part of who you are. I use this knowledge to work WITH you—not ON you—to create change that works. This is the basis of my approach. As a massage therapist, I have worked in almost every capacity, including massage clinics, physical therapy clinics, chiropractor offices, spas, private practice, and teaching. I have learned incredible techniques and strategies from each of my experiences. In my 20 years as a massage therapist, I have never stopped growing. I currently have a private practice based out of Long Beach, California, where I also teach continuing education classes and occasionally work on my kids. If they’re good.
     
    website: www.rebelmassage.com
     
    FB: facebook.com/RebelMassage
     
    IG: instagram.com/rebelmassagetherapist
     
    YouTube: youtube.com/c/RebelMassage
     
    email: rebelmassagetherapist@gmail.com
     
    Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.    
                    
    Website: anatomytrains.com    
                      
    Email: info@anatomytrains.com          
     
    Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains 
                        
    Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial
     
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA  
     
    Founded by a massage therapist for massage therapists, the Elements Massage brand is a network of independently-owned and operated studios dedicated to changing lives--including yours!  The Elements Massage brand believes massage therapists deserve a supportive team, business and marketing resources, and the chance to lear

    • 13 min
    Lower Expenses and Increase Income in Your Massage Business: “Business or Pressure” with Allissa Haines

    Lower Expenses and Increase Income in Your Massage Business: “Business or Pressure” with Allissa Haines

    Small, practical adjustments help your massage business run more efficiently, so you take home more of the money you earn. Tune in to this episode of Business or Pressure to hear money saving tips, as well as how to generate more income.
    Host:
    Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community.
     
    Author links:
     
    Website: www.deepbreathdigital.com/community
     
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deepbreathcommunity/
     
    Sponsors:
     
    Jojoba: www.jojobacompany.com
     
    HobaCare Jojoba is a premium quality, 100% pure jojoba oil that is highly beneficial for massage therapists. As a single-ingredient product, it aligns perfectly with holistic practices, providing an all-natural, chemical-free massage medium option. Jojoba oil closely resembles human sebum, which allows it to absorb easily and deeply into the skin, delivering a non-greasy, moisturizing experience that doesn't clog pores or cause allergic reactions. This unique property makes it an excellent medium for massage, enhancing tactile contact without leaving an oily residue. HobaCare Jojoba is also shelf stable and will not stain natural fiber sheets. By choosing HobaCare Jojoba, massage therapists can enhance their practice, offering clients a superior, skin-friendly experience that promotes both skin health and overall well-being.
    Website: www.hobacare.com

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jojobacompany

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jojobacompany

    • 21 min
    Connect, Encourage and Acknowledge with Cindy Williams

    Connect, Encourage and Acknowledge with Cindy Williams

    Have you ever noticed how clients talk about their pain? All too often people express negativity and even outright anger toward their bodies, which is counterproductive to healing. Join Cindy as she shares a simple method to increase awareness and encourage a healthy relationship and communication style when working with clients (and also yourself!)
    Host:
    After earning a degree in Sociology from Indiana University in 1997, Cindy Williams stumbled upon her calling as a massage therapist and bodyworker.  She completed massage school in Boulder, CO in 2000 and has been actively involved in the profession since that time. 
    For the last 24 years, Cindy has been in private practice, as well as serving in the education realm as an instructor, administrator, curriculum developer, consultant, and mentor.  She currently works as an author and freelance educational content writer while continuing to support individuals on their healing journeys through bodywork, meditation, and other mindfulness practices.  To learn more, visit her website at www.imaginehealthforyou.com.
     
    Sponsors:
     
    Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com 
     
    Elements Massage: www.elementsmassage.com/abmp
     
    Upledger: www.upledger.com
     
    Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.    
                    
    Website: anatomytrains.com    
                      
    Email: info@anatomytrains.com          
     
    Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains 
                        
    Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial
     
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA  
     
    Founded by a massage therapist for massage therapists, the Elements Massage brand is a network of independently-owned and operated studios dedicated to changing lives--including yours!  The Elements Massage brand believes massage therapists deserve a supportive team, business and marketing resources, and the chance to learn as much as they want, so many Elements Massage studios offer and reimburse continuing education on an ongoing basis. It's no surprise Elements Massage therapist and client satisfaction leads the industry. That's because from day one, the brand has kept an unmatched commitment to deliver the best therapeutic massage experiences possible for both clients and massage therapists. Elements Massage studios expects the best. So should you. If this sounds like a fit, reach out. Studios are  hiring! 
     
    Website: https://elementsmassage.com/ABMP
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/elementsmassage
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elementsmassage
    Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXLHkAYMgmA6_MJ8DSEZm-A
     
    Disclaimer:
    Each Elements Massage® studio is independently owned and operated. Franchise owners (or their designated hiring managers) are solely responsible for all employment and personnel decisions and matters regarding their independently owned and operated studios, including hiring, direction, training, supervision, discipline, discharge

    • 13 min
    5 Words to Inspire Any Practitioner with Kristin Coverly

    5 Words to Inspire Any Practitioner with Kristin Coverly

    Join Kristin Coverly, ABMP director of professional education, as she asks four leaders in the massage and bodywork field, “What’s your five-word piece of advice for practitioners?” Gain inspiration you can immediately apply to your professional and personal lives! 
    Resources:
    ABMP CE Summit: https://www.abmp.com/summit  
    ABMP Education Center: https://www.abmp.com/learn/  
    “A Field Guide to Color” by Lisa Solomon, http://www.lisasolomon.com/books.html  
    “From Strength to Strength” by Arthur C. Brooks, https://arthurbrooks.com/from-strength-to-strength  
    “Functional Anatomy of Movement” by James Earles, https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/717664/functional-anatomy-of-movement-by-james-earls/  
    “Passionate Minds” by David Bodanis, https://www.amazon.com/Passionate-Minds-Enlightenment-Featuring-Scientist/dp/0307237206  
    “The Book of Joy” by Dalai Lama, Desmond Tutu, and Douglas Carlton Abrams, https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/533718/the-book-of-joy-by-his-holiness-the-dalai-lama-and-archbishop-desmond-tutu-with-douglas-abrams/  
     “Tribe of Mentors” and “Tools of Titans” by Tim Ferriss, https://tim.blog/tim-ferriss-books/  
     
    Host:
    Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at ABMP. She loves creating continuing education courses, events, and resources to support massage therapists and bodyworkers as they enhance their lives and practices. Contact her at ce@abmp.com.
     
    Sponsors:
     
    Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com 
     
    Elements Massage: www.elementsmassage.com/abmp
     
    Earthlite: www.earthlite.com
     
    Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.    
                    
    Website: anatomytrains.com    
                      
    Email: info@anatomytrains.com          
     
    Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains 
                        
    Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial
     
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA  
     
     
    Founded by a massage therapist for massage therapists, the Elements Massage brand is a network of independently-owned and operated studios dedicated to changing lives--including yours!  The Elements Massage brand believes massage therapists deserve a supportive team, business and marketing resources, and the chance to learn as much as they want, so many Elements Massage studios offer and reimburse continuing education on an ongoing basis. It's no surprise Elements Massage therapist and client satisfaction leads the industry. That's because from day one, the brand has kept an unmatched commitment to deliver the best therapeutic massage experiences possible for both clients and massage therapists. Elements Massage studios expects the best. So should you. If this sounds like a fit, reach out. Studios are  hiring! 
     
    Website: https://elementsmassage.com/ABMP
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/elementsmassage
    Ins

    • 27 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
85 Ratings

85 Ratings

AFE-STS RIGGER ,

Virginia Massage Student

I’m a massage student in Yorktown Virginia and love this podcast. It’s been great for getting me great tips & things to think about as a soon to be massage therapist. Thank you!!

- Lawrence
#MobileMassageVeteran

JONNYOZMAN ,

This is free?

ABMP is a class act, as far as trade associations go, and this podcast is a good example.

Very accessible even to the massage enthusiast who wants to dig a little deeper into their condition or, simply educate themselves about myriad styles and approaches to bodywork available.

(PS Would love to hear something from ABMP on monkeypox, if standard precautions for rash are out-the-window, how long it stays on surfaces, etc.)

patricia micaela bessa ,

Love rebel massage

I always watch the videos of Rebel massage and I was super excited when I found out this podcast
Very informative

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