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Welcome to The Apologetics Podcast! In each episode of this thoughtful but lighthearted podcast, bestselling apologetics author Timothy Paul Jones joins cohost Garrick Bailey and top biblical scholars to wrestle with questions related to evidence for the truth of Christianity. Then, in the second half of the show, Garrick and Timothy take a theological look at one of the greatest hits in the history of rock and roll. Previously known as "Three Chords and the Truth: The Apologetics Podcast."

The Apologetics Podcast Timothy Paul Jones and Garrick Bailey

    • Religion & Spirituality
    • 5.0 • 94 Ratings

Welcome to The Apologetics Podcast! In each episode of this thoughtful but lighthearted podcast, bestselling apologetics author Timothy Paul Jones joins cohost Garrick Bailey and top biblical scholars to wrestle with questions related to evidence for the truth of Christianity. Then, in the second half of the show, Garrick and Timothy take a theological look at one of the greatest hits in the history of rock and roll. Previously known as "Three Chords and the Truth: The Apologetics Podcast."

    Jarvis Williams: Redemptive Kingdom Diversity and Why the New Testament Can Be Trusted

    Jarvis Williams: Redemptive Kingdom Diversity and Why the New Testament Can Be Trusted

    For the first time ever, Three Chords and the Truth: The Apologetics Podcast reveals the future! It's the last episode of season 2, and it's quite possible that your mind won't be able to handle everything that takes place in this thrilling season finale. Your intrepid cohosts turn out to be not only pastors and podcasters but also predictors and prognosticators. Before the episode comes to an end, their prophetic prognostications predict


    a book that won't be published until September,

    a new name for the podcast that's not happening until season 3, and

    a giveaway that won't begin until this episode has already been released.


    In the first half, New Testament scholar extraordinaire Jarvis Williams joins the podcast to talk about the book that won't be published until September. The title of his book is Redemptive Kingdom Diversity: A Biblical Theology of the People of God, and it's a book that every listener should plan to pre-order. Along the way, Jarvis and Timothy discuss Pearl Jam, Luther Vandross, and how multiethnic diversity in the church provides an apologetic for the gospel.


    In the second half, Garrick returns from a trip to Texas and prognosticates a name change for the podcast as well as unveiling the duo's plans for attaining new levels of insanity in season 3. Garrick also tells us about his new job and reveals the classic song from 1963 that best exemplified 2020. Before the episode ends, your intrepid cohosts divulge almost all of their plans for season 3 and, most exciting of all, they tell you how to win a mystery gift in the biggest giveaway ever attempted on this podcast. Also, why hasn't anyone ever named their band "Mystery Gift"?


    This Week’s Guest
    Dr. Jarvis Williams is associate professor of New Testament interpretation at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and a preaching pastor at Sojourn Church Midtown in Louisville, Kentucky. He is the author of many scholarly articles and books, including One New Man: The Cross and Racial Reconciliation in Pauline Theology and For Whom Did Christ Die? The Extent of the Atonement in Paul's Theology. Here's a quick video to introduce you to his forthcoming book Redemptive Kingdom Diversity: A Biblical Theology of the People of God:


    Links to Click
    B and H Academic


    Redemptive Kingdom Diversity: book by Jarvis Williams


    Removing the Stain of Racism from the Southern Baptist Convention: book edited by Jarvis Williams and Kevin Jones


    Ring of Fire: song by Johnny Cash


    The Village Church Institute


    SBTS Preview Day


    Urban Ministry Podcast


    How to Make Three Chords and the Truth More Amazing than It Already Is
    Support the show and spread the word! Here are a few ways to do that: 1. Subscribe to Three Chords and the Truth: The Apologetics Podcast: Apple / Android / RSS. 2. Leave a rating and review on iTunes to encourage other people to listen to the show. 3. If you purchase any of the books mentioned in Three Chords and the Truth, consider using the Amazon links provided in the show notes. The show will receive a small percentage of each sale. 4. Visit our Patreon site where you can support the podcast, suggest future songs or topics, and order Three Chords and the Truth merchandise. 5. Make contact with us on Twitter: @DrTimothyPJones  @GarrickBailey  @ApologeticsPod


    The Closing Credits
    Three Chords and the Truth: The Apologetics Podcast thanks B&H Academic for their sponsorship. Music for the podcast has been licensed through Artlist.io and performed by Trent Thompson. Brief excerpts of music played in each program are included solely for the purposes of comment and critique as allowed under the fair-use provision of U.S. copyright law. “The fair use of a copyrighted work … for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, … scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright” (U.S. Code § 107, Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use).

    • 47 min
    Garrick Bailey and Timothy Paul Jones: Good Times with the End Times and Eschatology (Part 2) + “Accelerate” (R.E.M.)

    Garrick Bailey and Timothy Paul Jones: Good Times with the End Times and Eschatology (Part 2) + “Accelerate” (R.E.M.)

    Welcome to the stunning conclusion of this two-part series about the end of time! This episode focuses on four truths about the end times that matter far more than any particular perspective on how God will fulfill his eschatological promises. In the process of exploring these four truths, the dynamic duo considers how different views of the millennium have developed and changed throughout Christian history. In the end, your intrepid cohosts reveal their own views about the end of time, and they spend some time considering how the pains of this past year have awakened a new yearning within them for the return of Jesus.


    Warning to parents: Garrick kicks off this episode by attempting to kill a phoenix with a wooden knife. Please do not attempt this at home. Garrick is a trained professional who almost has a Ph.D. Due to Garrick’s gratuitous act of attempted violence in the early moments of the episode, Timothy recommends that parents cover young children's eyes while listening to this portion of the program, unless your children are driving a vehicle or operating heavy machinery while listening to the podcast in which case you're probably not the type of parent who cares about protecting your children from violent images anyway. Thankfully, Garrick's felonious efforts fail, and the episode improves from that point forward. Also, “Murder Phoenix” would be the perfect name for a death metal band.


    The new cover art for this season was created by Dani Wallace (daniwallace.myportfolio.com).


    In This Episode
    Timothy Paul Jones, Ph.D., is C. Edwin Gheens Professor of Christian Ministry at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. He teaches in the areas of family ministry and applied apologetics. He has authored or edited more than a dozen books, including Why Should I Trust the Bible?, The God Who Goes Before You, Perspectives on Family Ministry, and Christian History Made Easy. Follow Dr. Jones at @DrTimothyPJones.


    Garrick Bailey is a Ph.D. student in systematic theology at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, studying Herman Bavinck and Roman Catholicism under the supervision of Gregg Allison.


    Links to Click
    B and H Academic


    Eschatological Discipleship: book by Trevin Wax


    Rose Guide to End-Times Prophecy: book by Timothy Paul Jones


    Jürgen Moltmann: Collected Readings: book edited by Margaret Kohl


    Restored to our Destiny: book by Brian G. Mattson


    Hope of the Early Church: book edited by Brian E. Daley


    It's the End of the World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine): song by R.E.M.


    Accelerate: song by R.E.M.


    SBTS Preview Day


    Urban Ministry Podcast


    How to Make Three Chords and the Truth More Amazing than It Already Is
    Support the show and spread the word! Here are a few ways to do that:


    1. Subscribe to Three Chords and the Truth: The Apologetics Podcast: Apple / Android / RSS.


    2. Leave a rating and review on iTunes to encourage other people to listen to the show.


    3. If you purchase any of the books mentioned in Three Chords and the Truth, consider using the Amazon links provided in the show notes. The show will receive a small percentage of each sale.


    4. Visit our Patreon site where you can support the podcast, suggest future songs or topics, and order Three Chords and the Truth merchandise.


    5. Make contact with us on Twitter: @DrTimothyPJones  @GarrickBailey  @ApologeticsPod


    The Closing Credits
    Three Chords and the Truth: The Apologetics Podcast thanks B&H Academic for their sponsorship. Music for the podcast has been licensed through Artlist.io and performed by Trent Thompson. Brief excerpts of music played in each program are included solely for the purposes of comment and critique as allowed under the fair-use provision of U.S. copyright law. “The fair use of a copyrighted work … for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, … scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright” (U.S. Code § 107, Limitations on exclus

    • 40 min
    Garrick Bailey and Timothy Paul Jones: Good Times with the End Times and Eschatology (Part 1) + “It’s the End of the World as We Know It (And I Feel Fine)” (R.E.M.)

    Garrick Bailey and Timothy Paul Jones: Good Times with the End Times and Eschatology (Part 1) + “It’s the End of the World as We Know It (And I Feel Fine)” (R.E.M.)

    The end is near!


    It’s eschatology and R.E.M. in part one of this two-part almost-the-end-of-the-season mega-episode. After discussing some of the greatest apocalyptic tunes in the history of rock and roll, your intrepid cohosts settle on a 1987 hit from R.E.M., “It’s the End of the World As We Know It (and I Feel Fine).” Along the way, Garrick tries to convince everyone that “The Final Countdown” by Europe is a song about the end of time, but of course it isn’t and Garrick probably already knows that.


    Timothy reminisces about the films that terrorized him in his fundamentalist childhood before defining “eschatology” and discussing different views of the end of time.


    What Garrick and Timothy discover as they take a look at the end of time is that, in the late modern era, eschatologies shifted from looking forward to looking inward. In many contexts, the result has been a failure to talk about the end of time at all. And yet, an avoidance of this topic is no less harmful than an over-emphasis on it.


    The episode ends with a cliffhanger as the dynamic duo begins to list four essential truths about the end of time but then stops after the first one. To discover the rest of these essential truths, be sure to listen to part two of this episode.


    This episode’s Toybox Hero Tournament is the most ridiculous encounter yet in a season that has been a veritable fountain of ridiculousness. Garrick puts on a bomber jacket and plays a song on his daughter’s ukulele, hoping to save himself from certain destruction by calming the wrath of an Amazonian superheroine. The superheroine is unimpressed and, now, there is one less ukulele in the world. Also, “Ukulele Wonder Women” would be the perfect name for an all-girl acoustic punk band. The new cover art for this season was created by Dani Wallace (daniwallace.myportfolio.com).


    In Today's Episode
    Timothy Paul Jones, Ph.D., is C. Edwin Gheens Professor of Christian Ministry at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. He teaches in the areas of family ministry and applied apologetics. He has authored or edited more than a dozen books, including Why Should I Trust the Bible?, The God Who Goes Before You, Perspectives on Family Ministry, and Christian History Made Easy. Follow Dr. Jones at @DrTimothyPJones.


    Garrick Bailey is a Ph.D. student in systematic theology at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, studying Herman Bavinck and Roman Catholicism under the supervision of Gregg Allison.


    Links to Click
    B and H Academic


    A Theology for the Church: book edited by Daniel Akin


    Rose Guide to End-Times Prophecy: book by Timothy Paul Jones


    The Burning Hell: film by Estus Pirkle


    All Along the Watchtower: song by Jimi Hendrix


    Bad Moon Rising: song by Creedence Clearwater Revival


    Fight Fire with Fire: song by Metallica


    Four Horsemen: song by Metallica


    99 Red Balloons: song by Nena


    The Final Countdown: song by Europe


    It's the End of the World as We Know It (And I Feel Fine): song by R.E.M.


    America's Greatest Band: article by Eric Harvey


    R.E.M.'s First Ever Show: article by J. Niimi


    Oddfellows Local 151: song by R.E.M.


    We Didn't Start the Fire: song by Billy Joel


    Murmur: album by R.E.M.


    SBTS Preview Day


    Urban Ministry Podcast


    How to Make Three Chords and the Truth More Amazing than It Already Is
    Support the show and spread the word! Here are a few ways to do that:


    1. Subscribe to Three Chords and the Truth: The Apologetics Podcast: Apple / Android / RSS.


    2. Leave a rating and review on iTunes to encourage other people to listen to the show.


    3. If you purchase any of the books mentioned in Three Chords and the Truth, consider using the Amazon links provided in the show notes. The show will receive a small percentage of each sale.


    4. Visit our Patreon site where you can support the podcast, suggest future songs or topics, and order Three Chords and the Truth merchandise.


    5. Make contact with us on Twitter:

    • 50 min
    Food Trucks in Babylon: Moral Apologetics, Prayer, and the Impassibility of God

    Food Trucks in Babylon: Moral Apologetics, Prayer, and the Impassibility of God

    A few months ago, one of our most faithful listeners and favorite supporters Tanner Billson asked a question about apologetics and the impassibility of God. It was a difficult dilemma, so Garrick and Timothy headed to the best place in the world to determine how to deal with difficult dilemmas: superhero comics. That’s because, in superhero comics, the world is always about to be destroyed and there’s no hope of saving it, which most people would classify as a rather difficult dilemma, especially for those of us who live on the earth which is a very high percentage of human beings.


    As Garrick and Timothy read their superhero comics, looking for the answer, it occurred to them that—whenever a dilemma is particularly difficult—there is one thing that almost always happens.


    Lots of explosions. 


    However, pyrotechnics didn’t seem to be a very good way to answer Tanner’s question. 


    So, they kept reading. 


    Right before Garrick reached the end of his attention span, which typically happens after approximately eight seconds, Garrick and Timothy glimpsed the answer to their dilemma, gleaming gloriously in the darkness just like Bill and Ted’s telephone booth in front of the Circle K.


    They needed a team-up. 


    That’s right: Like the Avengers and the Guardians of the Galaxy, like DC and Marvel, like Falcon and the Winter Soldier, but not so much like Batman and Superman since they tried to kill each other right before they teamed up, the dynamic duo decided to find some likeminded compatriots and team up with them for a crossover episode. And who better to team up with on a superpowered episode than someone who’s already written a book about superheroes?


    And so, they called Stan Lee.


    But, since Stan had already passed away, he was regretfully unable to appear on the podcast.


    That's when Garrick and Timothy did the next best thing: They called Todd Miles, systematic theologian and acclaimed author of Superheroes Can’t Save You: Epic Examples of Historic Heresies. And so, two years after he first appeared on the podcast, Todd is now back and better than ever. This time, Todd teams up with Garrick and Timothy as cohost of the podcast Food Trucks in Babylon, which means that he also brings with him another systematic theologian, J. Ryan Lister.


    The results are nothing short of breathtaking.


    Except for that one moment when Ryan looked wistfully at Todd and pleaded with him, “Oh, Batman, please let me be your Robin,” this crossover episode turned out to be one of the least awkward episodes of Three Chords and the Truth that your intrepid cohosts have ever produced.


    Not only did Ryan and Todd answer questions about apologetics and the impassibility of God but they also discussed such pressing questions as how ethics should shape twenty-first century apologetics, what instrument Herman Bavinck would have played if he’d joined his fellow Dutchmen Eddie and Alex Van Halen in a band, and how Pearl Jam can help your prayer life. (Also, "Bavinck" would be the perfect name for a theologically-inclined industrial metal band.)


    If you listen all the way to the end, you’ll also hear Todd’s personal reflections on the profundity of Christian artist Michael W. Smith’s spiritual gifts. As soon as you finish listening to this episode of Three Chords and the Truth: The Apologetics Podcast, please go to https://foodtrucksinbabylon.simplecast.com and subscribe to Food Trucks in Babylon. Also, take a look at http://www.westernseminary.edu where Todd “Batman” Miles and J. Ryan “Robin” Lister team up to teach theology.


    The new cover art for this season was created by Dani Wallace (daniwallace.myportfolio.com).


     


    This Week’s Guests


    Todd Miles is Professor of Theology at Western Seminary in Portland, Oregon, where he teaches theology, church history, hermeneutics, and ethics. He is the author of Superheroes Can't Save You: Epic Examples of Historic Heresies and the upcoming title Canna

    • 53 min
    Mary Jo Sharp: A Former Atheist Looks at the Problem of Evil + “One of Us” (Joan Osborne)

    Mary Jo Sharp: A Former Atheist Looks at the Problem of Evil + “One of Us” (Joan Osborne)

    Why do atheists see the problem of evil as such a problem for Christians? And is the problem of evil really as problematic as some atheists seem to think? Those are a few of the many questions that Timothy explores in this episode with Mary Jo Sharp. A former atheist who's now a faithful follower of Jesus, Mary Jo Sharp first encountered apologetics in her own spiritual search for truth. Now, Mary Jo is assistant professor of apologetics at Houston Baptist University and the founder of Confident Christianity Apologetics Ministry. She's also a delightful guest and a knowledgeable musician, which cranks up the dial on this episode from "ordinary" to "epic."


    In the second half of the episode, the star is a one-hit wonder from 1995. The dynamic duo of Garrick and Timothy delves into "One of Us," a song made popular by a musician who was born and raised about five miles from Timothy's house. Along the way, your intrepid cohosts discuss how nothing less than the incarnation and suffering of God in Christ is able to provide a comprehensive solution to the problem of evil. Before it's over, Garrick and Timothy also take a look at a far superior version of "One of Us" from a Jehovah's Witness who went by the name of Prince (except for those few years when he went by a symbol instead).


    Once again, the Toybox Hero Tournament nearly degenerates into total insanity and uncontrollable chaos, as an A-Wing starfighter from Star Wars clashes with an armor-plated coffee pot from Target. This unexpected contest forces Garrick and Timothy to face some of the most crucial and difficult questions that they've ever discussed on this program, questions such as "Is a lightsaber capable of blocking boiling water?" and "Exactly how much coffee would a Star Wars pilot need to stay awake in space?" Also, "One of Us" would actually be a great name for a band—much better than "the Hooters," which also shows up on this episode and which Timothy awkwardly compares to Forrest Gump if you listen all the way to the end.


    The new cover art for this season was created by Dani Wallace (daniwallace.myportfolio.com).


    THIS WEEK’S GUEST
    Mary Jo Sharp is assistant professor of apologetics at Houston Baptist University and the founder and director of the apologetics ministry Confident Christianity. An international speaker on apologetics, Sharp focuses on love and logic to uncover truth. She is also a published author with Kregel, B&H, and Zondervan. Her most recent book is Why I Still Believe.


    LINKS TO CLICK
    B and H Academic


    Why I Still Believe: book by Mary Jo Sharp


    One of Us: song by Joan Osborne


    One of Us: song by Prince


    SBTS Preview Day


    Urban Ministry Podcast


    HOW TO MAKE THREE CHORDS AND THE TRUTH MORE AMAZING THAN IT ALREADY IS
    Support the show and spread the word! Here are a few ways to do that:


    1. Subscribe to Three Chords and the Truth: The Apologetics Podcast: Apple / Android / RSS.


    2. Leave a rating and review on iTunes to encourage other people to listen to the show.


    3. If you purchase any of the books mentioned in Three Chords and the Truth, consider using the Amazon links provided in the show notes. The show will receive a small percentage of each sale.


    4. Visit our Patreon site where you can support the podcast, suggest future songs or topics, and order Three Chords and the Truth merchandise.


    5. Make contact with us on Twitter: @DrTimothyPJones @GarrickBailey  @ApologeticsPod


    CLOSING CREDITS
    Three Chords and the Truth: The Apologetics Podcast thanks B&H Academic for their sponsorship. Music for the podcast has been licensed through Artlist.io and performed by Trent Thompson. Brief excerpts of music played in each program are included solely for the purposes of comment and critique as allowed under the fair-use provision of U.S. copyright law. “The fair use of a copyrighted work … for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, … scholarship, or research, is not an infr

    • 1 hr 3 min
    Garrick Bailey and Timothy Paul Jones: Job, Jesus, and the Existential Problem of Evil + "You Found Me" (The Fray)

    Garrick Bailey and Timothy Paul Jones: Job, Jesus, and the Existential Problem of Evil + "You Found Me" (The Fray)

    If you’re a Christian who’s suffering or if you want to help people who are suffering, this episode of Three Chords and the Truth: The Apologetics Podcast is the most important installment in this series on the problem of evil. This time around, the focus is the existential problem of evil. What Garrick and Timothy mean when they talk about “the existential problem of evil” is the personal struggle with the question, “Where is God when I’m suffering?”


    “Where Is God When I Suffer?”
    This problem of evil is also a pastoral dilemma, because this is the question that people ask us in their times of pain. To equip you to understand the question, “Where is God when it hurts?” your intrepid cohosts present seven simple points to remember about suffering, pain, and God's unsuccessful effort to converse with Job about meteorology. Since seven is the perfect number, these seven points pretty much makes it the perfect episode. Along the way, the dynamic duo looks at a song from The Fray entitled “You Found Me,” which Timothy sees as a twist on the storyline of the biblical book of Job. This episode's Toybox Hero Tournament throws a big-eyed, blue-eared Siberian Husky into the ring to do battle against a sparkly pink wand. In the end, what decides the fate of the Husky is not the power of the wand but the disposition of its owner, which guarantees that no harm will ever come to the Husky.


    Also, “Rabid Husky” would be an amazing name for a punk band.


    Or a minor-league baseball team.


    The new cover art for this season was created by Dani Wallace (daniwallace.myportfolio.com).


    Links to Click
    B and H Academic


    The Problem of Evil: book by Jeremy Evans


    "You Found Me": song by The Fray


    SBTS Preview Day


    Urban Ministry Podcast


    How to Make Three Chords and the Truth More Amazing than It Already Is
    Support the show and spread the word! Here are a few ways to do that:


    1. Subscribe to Three Chords and the Truth: The Apologetics Podcast: Apple / Android / RSS.


    2. Leave a rating and review on iTunes to encourage other people to listen to the show.


    3. If you purchase any of the books mentioned in Three Chords and the Truth, consider using the Amazon links provided in the show notes. The show will receive a small percentage of each sale.


    4. Visit our Patreon site where you can support the podcast, suggest future songs or topics, and order Three Chords and the Truth merchandise.


    5. Make contact with us on Twitter: @DrTimothyPJones  @GarrickBailey  @ApologeticsPod


    The Closing Credits
    Three Chords and the Truth: The Apologetics Podcast thanks B&H Academic for their sponsorship. Music for the podcast has been licensed through Artlist.io and performed by Trent Thompson. Brief excerpts of music played in each program are included solely for the purposes of comment and critique as allowed under the fair-use provision of U.S. copyright law. “The fair use of a copyrighted work … for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, … scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright” (U.S. Code § 107, Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use).

    • 48 min

Customer Reviews

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94 Ratings

5thsyceria ,

Informative and Funny with a Heart for Christ

I whole heartedly recommend you give this a listen. I have really appreciated what I have learned from this podcast and all the smiles and laughs my coworkers probably think I’m crazy for busting out as I listen and work. However, the best part of the podcast and what shines through these gentlemen is a heart for Christ. I love learning theology and apologetics, I really do. But, knowing things about God is nothing compared to knowing Him for Himself. Timothy and Garrick through their observations and instructions have spurred me on to know God for Himself, to glory in Christ, and to love Him more. For that, I am truly grateful.

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Amazing information

This Podcast has renewed my desire to understand Apologetics. Timothy and Jay are so funny and engaging yet are able to communicate clearly and faithfully. Can’t wait for season 3!

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Two Regular Guys

I enjoy and appreciate how Timothy and Garrick mix Christian apologetics & history with culture and rock and roll! Excited about the changes in Season Three… more music talk!! Def Leppard, ‘Rock of Ages’ would be great to hear more about. Keep up the great work of Apologetics!! Kurt - SW Florida

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