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For the first two seasons, Shelley and Chad discussed everything from burnout to productivity to self-awareness. Now the duo deep dives into all facets of the Enneagram, all packed in the form of practical, actionable insights. For leaders and team-builders in the business world, as well as those practicing the Enneagram on their own.
Big ideas + True Self = Big Self.

The Big Self Podcast Big Self School

    • Business
    • 5.0 • 34 Ratings

For the first two seasons, Shelley and Chad discussed everything from burnout to productivity to self-awareness. Now the duo deep dives into all facets of the Enneagram, all packed in the form of practical, actionable insights. For leaders and team-builders in the business world, as well as those practicing the Enneagram on their own.
Big ideas + True Self = Big Self.

    You Are a Human Being, Not a Human Doing with Nataly Kogan

    You Are a Human Being, Not a Human Doing with Nataly Kogan

    Burnout has become one of the most talked about workplace and life topics, and its impact is far-reaching. But too much of the conversation is focused on the problem vs. what we can actually do to break free from burnout.
    In her new game-changing, self-illustrated book, THE AWESOME HUMAN PROJECT: Break Free from Daily Burnout, Struggle Less, and Thrive More in Work and Life Nataly makes a compelling case that while challenges in life are constant, struggle is optional. She offers us proven science-backed and engaging methods to help us break through the cycle of “daily burnout,” as she defines it -- methods which have already transformed over a million people and counting. Nataly’s book is intensely personal and written as a response to her own journey as a refugee who viewed struggle as a way of life. After achieving tremendous success in the corporate and startup worlds, Nataly suffered a debilitating burnout, which taught her a powerful lesson: You can’t give what you don’t have.
    We are delighted to have Nataly on for our 100th episode and our final guest for the first quarter of 2022.
    https://natalykogan.com/ (Find Nataly here), or at https://www.happier.com/ (happier.com).
    Time Stamps:
    3:09--Why Nataly and her parents fled the former Soviet Union in 1989
    8:20--How Nataly went through a debilitating burnout
    10:40--Nataly's experience with startups and struggling, and the difference of challenge
    15:12--Getting emotionally fit, and how Nataly found her way
    18:20--How Nataly realized she wasn't just her brain (and learned to talk back)
    22:40--The five ways to keep emotionally fit (in a nutshell)
    29:00--For people who are moving into burnout in a pretty deep way right now
    34:00--Normalizing self-care as a priority at work
    38:45--You don't need to burnout to learn, but you probably need an interruption
    41:41--Playing it forward and asking, "How do you want to experience your life?"
    45:15--What Nataly hopes you'll takeaway from her book
    https://open.spotify.com/show/1yx9VzUCRcYezd7cUlSRn4?si=Xygeo5a7T0ePnX7IaHu0AQ (Subscribe on Spotify).

    • 49 min
    Investing in the Self and Others with Ted Alling

    Investing in the Self and Others with Ted Alling

    Today we speak with entrepreneur and investor, Ted Alling. Ted is a leader in Chattanooga who uses his entrepreneurial achievements to create opportunities for others.
    He is the co-founder and former CEO of a $500-million startup, Access America, which merged with UPS subsidiary Coyote Logistics.
    That initial success allowed Ted and his fellow Access America founders to create Lamp Post Group, a venture capital firm and tech-focused incubator located right here in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Lamp Post is responsible for developing and incubating literally dozens of startups. From there, he co-founded Dynamo in 2016, a venture-capital fund with a focus in logistics technology. And then in 2018, he and his wife Kelly, helped to found the Chattanooga Preparatory School, an all-boys charter school.
    Chattanooga Prep is designed to provide unique and impactful educational opportunities for the young men in the city’s urban communities, and it opened to its inaugural class of sixth graders in August 2018 and now has over 300 young men.
    It’s been a wild ride throughout the past two decades, and Ted has not only succeeded himself, but has an ability to bring others along with him. He has also done a lot of personal development and learned a lot, sometimes the hard way, about himself, others, and best practices when it comes to building companies and culture. That is why we wanted to speak with him on the Big Self Podcast.
    Time Stamps:
    4:00--Ted's love of the Enneagram
    6:24--The biggest hack for all our listeners on the Enneagram
    10:20--The progressive realization of a worthy ideal (what success is)
    18:00--How some companies are living out their values now more than in the recent past
    27:43--When Ted and Kelly met David Robinson in researching for their prep school
    30:57--How Chattanooga Prep selects the 70 students they enroll each year
    34:40--How they create the "Disney World Experience" for the kids right off the bat
    37:43--When Ted first discovered the power (and addictive nature) of the Blackberry
    40:33--How Ted recognizes how some have huge advantages over others
    https://open.spotify.com/show/1yx9VzUCRcYezd7cUlSRn4?si=Xygeo5a7T0ePnX7IaHu0AQ (Subscribe on Spotify).

    • 42 min
    The S Curve of Smart Growth with Whitney Johnson

    The S Curve of Smart Growth with Whitney Johnson

    Leading teams and organizations to greatness has never been more challenging than it is right now. But there is opportunity amidst the chaos.
    We are now in an era of post-traumatic growth. An https://www.egonzehnder.com/it-starts-with-the-ceo/highlights (Egon Zehnder study) reports that 80% of CEOs strongly agreed they needed to transform themselves as well as their organizations—up from 26% prior to the pandemic.
    Employees want to grow. Leaders want to help their people and their companies grow—and recognize that the only way to do that is to grow themselves. The challenge lies in knowing how to stop walking in circles, and move forward.
    In her new book SMART GROWTH: How to Grow Your People to Grow Your Company (Harvard Business Review Press; January 11, 2022) Whitney Johnson, CEO of Disruption Advisors, and one of the top ten business thinkers in the world as named by Thinkers50, provides a set of tools to get smart about growth.
    Whitney Johnson is CEO of the tech-enabled development company Disruption Advisors, an Inc. 5000 fastest-growing private company in America and was recently named #8 on the Thinkers50 list for 2021, made up of the 50 leading business thinkers in the world. She is an award-winning author, a regular keynote speaker and she and Shelley really hit it off on this week's episode.
    Time Stamps:
    3:50--Working on a new framework of personal disruption led to the S Curve concept
    9:55--Whitney's turning point moment of realizing she is going to have to disrupt herself
    11:45--What's interesting about different kinds of fears
    16:31--We're all operating at different levels of fears and awareness
    19:38--Whenever you start something new you are at the base of the S
    25:00--The many different ways you can apply the S curve to your life
    31:06--The six stages of growth that correspond to the S curve
    39:00--That place where your identity is shifting
    44:20--You want to race before you've spent time in the collector phase
    47:40--How 2022 is the Great Aspiration rather than the Great Resignation
    Show notes links:
    https://whitneyjohnson.com/ (https://whitneyjohnson.com/)
    Be one of the first three listeners to leave us a review on https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-big-self-podcast/id1485907203 (on Apple iTunes) and receive your free copy of Whitney's brand new hardcover: Smart Growth: How to Grow Your People to Grow Your Company.
    https://open.spotify.com/show/1yx9VzUCRcYezd7cUlSRn4?si=Xygeo5a7T0ePnX7IaHu0AQ (Subscribe on Spotify).
    Find us at the Big Self Community on Facebook.

    • 51 min
    Co-Creating the Power of Joy with Anne Scottlin

    Co-Creating the Power of Joy with Anne Scottlin

    Anne Scottlin is on a mission around the world to help people from business executives to creatives to startup employees who wear a lot of hats to find their joy. What does joy mean? What does it mean to possess it and carry it around with you wherever you go? Tune in to find out.
    Plus, how Anne practices her own methods in her life. Also, what happened when Anne mind-mapped her life and connected the dots from Medieval literature to acting to altruism around the world supporting oppressed women.
    Thanks for tuning in to this week's Big Self Podcast.
    Show notes links:
    Find Anne’s newly released book, https://amzn.to/3IyULBY (Live For Joy), here.
    Grab a one-week journal to foster and create your own joy awareness at https://www.annescottlin.com/joyjournal (https://www.annescottlin.com/joyjournal).
    Time Stamps:
    3:40--The difference between joy and happiness
    6:00--Wishful thinking and how to overcome it, and how Anne's early experiences led to her life journey of finding joy and then wanting to share it with others
    11:40--The relationship of the PERMA model
    17:25--What Anne advises when people want to make a career transition
    24:25--The conflict that creating such deep individualism often brings
    33:46--We tend to remember where we fell short
    40:00--The Big Self Takeaway
    Leave us a review and https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-big-self-podcast/id1485907203 (subscribe on Apple iTunes).
    https://open.spotify.com/show/1yx9VzUCRcYezd7cUlSRn4?si=Xygeo5a7T0ePnX7IaHu0AQ (Subscribe on Spotify).
    Find us at the Big Self Community on Facebook.

    • 41 min
    Teams beat burnout at work with Paula Davis

    Teams beat burnout at work with Paula Davis

    Long before the pandemic gripped the world and blurred the lines between home and work, we had become a nation suffering high levels of burnout. It is one of the most discussed, and far-reaching problems in the workplace today. And that is why we are covering it from a wide variety of perspectives on our podcast here at the top of the year from top business professionals and trained coaches, researchers, and leaders.
    In https://amzn.to/344LRfH (BEATING BURNOUT AT WORK: Why Teams Hold the Secret to Well-Being and Resilience), founder of the https://stressandresilience.com/ (Stress and Resilience Institute) Paula Davis provides a new framework to help organizations prevent employee burnout via a holistic approach.
    Her research-driven and actionable book is the first to explore a comprehensive approach for building the resilience of teams of all sizes. Her framework works with organizations ranging from Harvard Law School to Walgreens, and is aimed at reshaping the organizational policies, decision-making, and political, social, and economic issues that contribute to workplace stress.
    Time Stamps:
    4:44--A big part of what people are getting wrong about burnout
    8:42--We can't just keep approaching the systemic issue of burnout through the individual, which is what lead to the idea of working with teams first and foremost
    12:06--Interesting research that you can be highly engaged and burned out
    14:15--Psychological safety as a foundational element
    20:16--Start with the Resilient Teams Inventory
    25:10--Detecting your icebergs
    29:23--The core values and powerful themes that come up for leaders that they're not always conscious of
    32:40--We don't listen to understand; different kinds of listening
    35:58--Suck it up and drive on and do it the way I did it
    42:00--The importance of coaching
    44:03--The Big Self Takeaway
    Leave us a review and https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-big-self-podcast/id1485907203 (subscribe on Apple iTunes).
    https://open.spotify.com/show/1yx9VzUCRcYezd7cUlSRn4?si=Xygeo5a7T0ePnX7IaHu0AQ (Subscribe on Spotify).
    Find us at the Big Self Community on Facebook.

    • 46 min
    Beating the Burnout Epidemic with Jennifer Moss

    Beating the Burnout Epidemic with Jennifer Moss

    We’ve been covering burnout from our inception at the top of 2020. We've suffered from it in different ways and at different times in our lives. Now we help organizations and leaders deal with it, and we had no idea how acute it would become and how the screws would tighten with the circumstances and chaos of the pandemic.
    And who better to bring on the show to discuss her own unique strategies and experiences than Jennifer Moss? In her compelling new book, Moss argues our current strategies are getting it all wrong – that self-care won’t cure burnout and organizations need to entirely rethink their approach to wellness. Leveraging her latest research and evidence-based solutions, her recent book, https://amzn.to/3G2jRYl (The Burnout Epidemic: The Rise of Chronic Stress and How We Can Fix It), will help leaders and individuals prevent burnout for healthier, happier, and more productive workplaces.
    We tend to think of burnout as a problem we can solve with self-care: more yoga, better breathing techniques, and more resilience. But evidence is mounting that applying personal, Band-Aid solutions to an epic and rapidly evolving workplace phenomenon isn't even close to enough.
    Moss’s book is eye-opening, paradigm-shifting, and offers a practical guide, laying bare the real causes of burnout and how organizations can stop the chronic stress cycle that an alarming number of workers suffer through. Self-care is important, but it's not a cure-all for burnout.
    Be sure and stay tuned to the end for our Big Self Takeaway!
    Time Stamps:
    4:31--The root causes of burnout
    6:28--The World Health Organization definition of burnout
    8:05--When your leaders are passionate about their work and they become less aware of the model they're setting
    9:30--Feeling external pressure in high growth organizations
    12:10--Industries we're seeing a lot of burnout in
    14:08--Overwork is responsible for 2.8 million deaths last year
    18:38--Research on video conferencing fatigue
    23:52--How Jennifer used to look down on burnout before she went through it
    26:30--Seeing an accumulation of small traumas leading to grief
    31:30--The Big Self Takeaway
    Leave us a review and https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-big-self-podcast/id1485907203 (subscribe on Apple iTunes).
    https://open.spotify.com/show/1yx9VzUCRcYezd7cUlSRn4?si=Xygeo5a7T0ePnX7IaHu0AQ (Subscribe on Spotify).
    Find us at the Big Self Community on Facebook.

    • 34 min

Customer Reviews

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34 Ratings

34 Ratings

Julie Cook Davis ,

Great place to start!

I am just beginning to learn about the Enneagram and how much it affects our lives and relationships. I have listened to several of Shelly and Chad’s podcasts and know already they will be a great resource as I start this journey. I look forward to growing and learning more about myself and others in my life.

...".." ,

Fascinating and Relatable

My Enneagram type has been elusive to me but this podcast has helped me discern where I think I’m headed because Shelley and Chad are so relatable! Instead of this feeling like a very academic exercise or on the other end of the spectrum - some “whoohoo” mumble jumbo, I was able to listen and learn in a way that didn’t talk down to me or intimidate me. I am fascinated by the depth that the Enneagram reaches and I have been typed in many other instruments. Beyond the Enneagram series, this podcast is just awesome!

Danita O ,

Big Self

Excellent, practical information from a knowledgeable, curious, and caring duo! Their guests are equally as impressive. Great questions, dialogue, that promote growth and learning. I also appreciate the honesty and transparency. Highly recommend you listen in soon!

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