Welcome to The Business Brew
This podcast’s mission is to dig deep into the thought patterns and analysis of investors and business people. The podcast stemmed from Bill Brewster consistently feeling like he was listening to prepackaged material while listening to podcasts. Instead, he wanted long form, in depth, discussions about finance, capital allocation, and the psychology of investing/business.
Bill is a private investor. He cohosts the podcast Value: After Hours with Tobias Carlisle and Jake Taylor. Tobias, Jake and Bill met at a Berkshire Hathaway meeting and formed a lasting friendship. And, as it turns out, people really like the podcast.
While Bill tries to replicate Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger’s thought processes, he is heavily influenced by Bill Miller III, Stan Druckenmiller, and others. This podcast is his attempt to dig deeper into other investing/business philosophies and share the knowledge with the world.
We are interested in interviewing portfolio managers, Wall Street sell side analysts, buy side analysts, private investors, owner operators, and anyone that is willing to go in depth about running a company/division. So, if you are interested in participating please email us with the subject “Guest Appearance.”
Disclaimer: Bill manages a portfolio under the name of Sullimar Capital Group. This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. Nothing in this podcast or on SullimarCapital.Group is investment advice. All information in this is opinion based, potentially biased, and requires verification.
Bill and his guests make no representation, warranty or undertaking, express or implied, as to the accuracy, reliability, completeness or reasonableness of the information contained in these podcasts. Any assumptions, opinions and estimates expressed constitute the participant’s judgment as of the date thereof and are subject to change without notice. Any projections contained in the information are based on a number of assumptions as to market conditions and there can be no guarantee that any projected outcomes will be achieved. This podcast does not accept any liability for any direct, consequential or other loss arising from reliance on the contents of this presentation.
This podcast series DOES NOT CONSTITUTE AN OFFER TO SELL OR THE SOLICIATION OF AN OFFER TO BUY ANY SECURITIES MENTIONED OR DISCUSSED. Seek the your financial, tax, legal, accounting, or other advisor’s advice before making any investment decisions. We are not your fiduciary or advisor.
Ian Cassel - Micro Machine
Ian Cassel is the CIO at Intelligent Fanatics Capital Management ("IFCM"). IFCM invests in the smallest public companies in the world. They focus on businesses that are run by management teams who are capable of growing those businesses while benefiting stakeholders. Ian also founded MicroCapClub.
In this episode Ian discusses how he became a microcap investor. One of his first successes was XM Satellite Radio. He discovered the company when it was a microcap trading for $2/sh and didn't have any contracts with car manufacturers yet. Ian saw they were presenting at a conference in NY, got in a car, and met with the CEO. After that meeting Ian became obsessed with turning into a full time private investor.
Ian stresses the importance of doing deep due diligence, remaining rational, and keeping personal expenses "variable." He invests in a concentrated manner (only a few stocks at a time), which is very Buffett like. Unlike Buffett, however, Ian discusses the importance of remaining open to selling winners. This is because Ian is "fishing in a pond" of smaller companies and execution risk must always be monitored.
Ian is a refreshing voice in the investment community and we are happy to have him join the show!
Note: We reference Connor Haley's presentation in this discussion. That presentation can be found here
Naufal Sanaullah - Inflation: Not So Certain
Naufal Sanaullah is the macro advisor at EIA Alpha Partners. EIA is a minority-owned firm that has realized very impressive results since inception. Among its many awards, EIA boasts the following (see https://eiaalphapartners.com/):
#1 Net Returns of Top Performing Relative Value Strategies Hedge Funds in 2019
#3 Net Returns of 2017-Inception Hedge Funds in 2019
#4 Net Returns of Top Performing Volatility Trading Hedge Funds in 2019
#5 Net Returns of Top Performing Hedge Funds in 2019 with Less than $100mn in AUM
#8 Net Returns of Top Performing North America-Based Hedge Funds in 2019
#16 Net Returns of Top Performing Hedge Funds in 2019
Naufal is responsible for macro strategy, macro trading, and overall portfolio management at EIA. Prior to EIA, he was involved in portfolio construction and macro strategy at Li Global Investors, a macro hedge fund in New York City. He studied mathematics at University of Michigan and Stony Brook University. His macro research has been highlighted in various media platforms, including Bloomberg, Business Insider, and Financial Times. He enjoys spending his free time producing hip-hop instrumentals and nurturing his puppy Nas.
In this episode Naufal joins Bill to discuss Naufal's view on inflation, policy efficacy, and what to watch for going forward. Bill, historically an Austrian leaning investor, found it interesting to listen to Naufal describe his view of the world, which is far more Keynesian and could be called Modern Monetary Theory driven.
The Business Brew is proud to feature this conversation for many reasons. One of which is the discussion is counter to the current market narrative/pricing on/of future inflation. If you like to consider both sides of an issue, this is a must listen macro episode.
Also, please consider donating to https://www.publicolor.org/ if Naufal's message resonates with you.
Oren Falkowitz - No Phishing Way
Oren Falkowitz is the founder of Area 1 Security. He was Chief Executive Officer of Area 1 2013-2020 and currently serves on the Board of Directors. Mr. Falkowitz holds numerous patents and is an avid wearer of bow ties on Thursday. Previously, he was the founder of sqrrl (acquired by Amazon) and held positions at the National Security Agency (NSA) and United States Cyber Command (USCYBERCOM).
He joined the Business Brew to discuss his career and the cyber security landscape. We hope you enjoy.
Derek Walin - Entrepreneur and Music Maven
The Business Brew is pleased to feature Derek Walin, @walin on Twitter, this week. Derek is Bill's cousin. They grew up together and Bill has known Derek since he was born. As Derek grew, Bill watched him become the consummate entrepreneur.
Derek began landing "gigs" as a magician. He would do magic for kids, elderly people, and anyone that would book him (by calling his parents). After that, Derek took a liking to DJing (before it was cool). He earned money throughout his high school years by DJing dances, birthday parties, and Bar and Bat Mitzvahs.
Despite Derek's father having a corporate background, Derek knew college wasn't for him. Instead, he wanted to attend Full Sail and pursue his dreams of chasing a career in entertainment/music. Fast forward to today and Derek and his partners manage ~11 artists. Check out https://www.supermusicgroup.com/ and check out the artists on your favorite music app!
As always, thank you for listening.
Moses Kagan - Permanent Real Estate Investing
Moses Kagan is a co-founder of Adaptive Realty, the Los Angeles-based real estate private equity firm. Since 2008, through Adaptive and predecessor entities, he has overseen the acquisition and rehabilitation of nearly 100 properties.
Adaptive is laser focused on sub institutional scale multifamily. So these are deals between three and 10 million dollars of total capitalization. The firm is unusual in the real estate private equity world because they buy and hold real estate rather than buying buildings, fixing them up, and flipping them as is done in a more IRR driven model.
In this episode Moses discusses his journey from running a smaller fund that had a single LP to what he does now. One of the most interesting parts of the conversation he discussed is when he had to sell the real estate in his first fund. To the outside world, it may have appeared to be a success. To Moses, however, it was a lesson in how much taxes hurt returns. That lesson formed the philosophy behind Adaptive.
We are happy to have Moses as this week's guest. As always, we hope you enjoy the episode!
Bonus: Andrew Walker - A SPACtacular Conversation
Andrew Walker, a PM at Rangeley Capital, author of Yet Another Value Blog, and host of Yet Another Value Podcast stopped by to discuss SPACs and his investment philosophy. We are releasing this episode as a bonus because there are some elements of it that require a faster release than normal. Areas discussed were SPACs, sum of the parts analysis, Getting Better as an Investor, and the current market environment.
Andrew has had an interesting career. He's found "compounders," special situations, and everything in between. He won the 2017 Sohn Idea Contest (that's a big deal for those that don't know) when "La Quinta (LQ) is sold its franchise business to Wyndham and spun off its owned hotel portfolio into a new REIT (CorePoint) in a taxable spin." You can see his presentation here: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10t7lVjWmNkkm7jwunh46nMLvfVsS4tYgAJrNcFd7DRg/edit#slide=id.p3
We hope you enjoy this bonus episode.
Customer ReviewsSee All
I normally don’t like to listen to business podcasts or podcast that have episodes over an hour because they generally are pretty dry and don’t hold my attention. This podcast is the exact opposite. Billy finds way to make the subject matter interesting and the conversation with the guests funny and captivating.
Favorite financial podcast
Big fan. I come from a completely different investing background, but Bill and guests have a great demeanor and style that cuts through different styles. I also appreciate how open Bill is to acknowledging where he, and fellow value travelers, might have a blind spot. Really self-aware and uncommon.
All of these conversations are fascinating