The Moral Support Podcast

Shara McKee & Ginger Labat

Shara and Ginger invite you to the table as they share stories, conversations, and moral support from their view as middle-aged besties. 

  1. 6d ago

    Season 3 Episode 1 Live From Shine "PSA: It's Gonna Rain"

    Theme: Preparing for Life’s Storms (personal, relational, spiritual) Hosts introduce the Moral Support Podcast live session and explain it’s a conversation between two friends that airs on streaming platforms (Spotify, Apple) — listeners can find episodes there. The central lesson: storms (external crises, personal struggles, grief, loss) are inevitable for everyone, so the question is not “will a storm come?” but “am I built and prepared for the storm?” Practical metaphor: prepare for storms the way you prepare for weather (umbrellas, supplies) and the way lighthouses are built during calm seas so they withstand storms — build stability before crisis hits. Distinction of storm types: external storms (events around you), internal storms (fear, anxiety, intrusive thoughts), spiritual storms, and storms that arise from our own choices/neglect; each can overlap and affect mind, body, emotions, and relationships. Key takeaways:  Expect difficulty rather than be surprised by it; anticipatory preparation (stress inoculation) helps you handle hardship better.  Preparation includes memorizing Scripture, regular prayer, grounding in truth, and spiritual practices so you can access truth quickly when intrusive or fearful thoughts arise. Mental techniques: observe your thoughts (create cognitive distance), ask “Is this helping me or hurting me?” and replace unhelpful thoughts with truth (word replacement therapy). Specific coping tools and why they work Scripture memorization as “storm prep”: having Scripture readily available allows immediate replacement of fearful thoughts, rather than searching for a verse in crisis. Whole Armor metaphor: put on truth, righteousness, the helmet of salvation, shield of faith, sword of the Spirit so you have both defensive and offensive spiritual resources while maintaining feet shod with peace. Cognitive distancing: label a thought (“this is a thought I’m having”), step outside the “jar” so you can see the thought’s origin (memory, stress response) and decide whether to water or starve it. Grounding techniques in sensory awareness (notice sounds, chair under you, clock) to re-anchor in the present when overwhelmed; this pulls you out of catastrophic imagining. Gratitude practice (journaling/regular thankful observation) reshapes attention: training your brain to look for positives increases detection of good things and counters the reticular activation system that amplifies negatives. Research and experiential claims were both invoked in the talk. Mental health and therapy Hosts affirm therapy (pro-therapy), note prior stigma, and recommend therapy as an available help that doesn’t replace spiritual practices — “get a therapist, but don’t see a therapist before you see God” summarizes the integration of supports. Holistic view: struggles show up across physical, mental, spiritual, and emotional domains; a problem beginning in one domain commonly bleeds into the others, so fight on multiple fronts. Decision-making in storms Principle: emotions are high and judgment is often low during storms; therefore pre-decide key responses where possible — determine ahead of time how you will act so you don’t make irreversible choices in a highly emotional state. The “decision to not decide” is itself a decision; the remedy is preparing choices in advance and practicing responses so you can act wisely when pressured. Recovery and resilience after storms Surviving can be simple persistence: sometimes resilience is sustained holding on — continued prayer, Scripture, and faith practice rather than dramatic accomplishments. Testimonies referenced holding on through miscarriage and grief by clinging to trust in God. Rebuild stronger: post-storm assessment reveals vulnerabilities; when rebuilding, reinforce the weak points so you don’t repeat the same failures (build back stronger and wiser). Practical, actionable steps (daily habits to prepare) Memorize and rehearse Scripture lines that counter fear (examples referenced: “God has not given me the spirit of fear…” and “No weapon formed against me shall prosper”) so you can quote them quickly in crisis. Daily spiritual disciplines: read the Word, pray, put on spiritual “armor” each day so you’re habitually prepared rather than reactive. Cognitive practice: when a negative thought appears, ask “Is this helping me or hurting me?” and “Is this true or a lie?” — then either replace it or let it go. Practice pausing and creating distance from the thought. Sensory grounding: name five things you can hear, feel, or see to return to present reality when anxiety spikes. Gratitude journaling: write daily simple thanks (start small) to rewire attention toward positives. Get support: form a “moral support partner,” bring a notebook to church, highlight and personalize scriptures, and consider therapy when needed (therapy + spiritual practice). Warnings and important distinctions Not every negative moment is demonic or spiritual — some storms are natural, some are consequences of neglect or poor choices, and some are intentionally allowed by God for reasons beyond present understanding; discernment matters. Avoid making life-altering decisions in the heat of crisis; instead rely on pre-made decisions or wait for clarity when possible. Stigma around counseling is decreasing; therapy is framed as a helpful, legitimate avenue of care that complements spiritual practice. Mindset shifts emphasized You are not your thoughts; you are the thinker — adopt the posture of gatekeeper, not captive, of your mental life. Mortality awareness (Memento Mori) gives perspective: recognizing life’s brevity helps prioritize what truly matters and avoid wasting energy on small battles. Weakness can qualify you for God’s strength — vulnerability does not disqualify you from being helped or chosen for endurance. Short checklist to “be built for the storm” Daily: Scripture reading + memorize at least one fighting verse; prayer and putting on spiritual armor. Weekly: practice gratitude journaling; review decisions you may face and pre-decide responses to likely triggers. As needed: use grounding (name senses) during acute anxiety; reach out for a moral-support partner; consider therapy when struggles exceed personal coping. Encouragement and closing convictions You are not alone in storms — maintain the posture that Jesus (the speakers’ anchor) is “in the boat” and present with you; stay connected to anchors (truth, community, practices) and hold on. Storms refine and form character; surviving them and rebuilding intentionally yields greater strength and wisdom for future storms. Final exhortation from the session: you can make it through your storm — hold on, do what you know to do, prepare in advance, and build back stronger. Follow us on IG at MoralSupportPodcast or our personal social media accounts. https://www.facebook.com/ginger.labat https://www.facebook.com/sharamckee/

    48 min
  2. 07/01/2025

    Does the Bible Really Say That?

    summary In this conversation, Shara and Ginger explore common misconceptions about what the Bible actually says. Through a quiz format, they challenge listeners to discern between popular phrases attributed to the Bible and their actual scriptural origins. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding biblical principles, the context of scripture, and the need for personal study of the Bible to avoid deception. Misquoted phrases are examined, revealing their true meanings and origins, while also addressing the role of judgment, happiness, and the significance of Christmas narratives in Christian faith. takeaways It's important to know the word of God to avoid deception.Many popular phrases are misquoted or misunderstood.The principle may be in scripture, but the exact quote may not be.Context matters when interpreting scripture.God helps those who help themselves is not in the Bible.The Bible does not say to thine own self be true.Judgment in Christianity is about gauging fruit, not condemning.Happiness is not the primary goal of God; holiness is.Many Christmas traditions are not biblically accurate.Personal study of the Bible is essential for understanding truth.titles Does the Bible Really Say That?Unpacking Biblical MisconceptionsSound Bites "Study the real thing.""To thine own self be true.""The devil made me do it."Chapters 00:00 Does the Bible Really Say That? 02:57 Misquoted Verses and Their Origins 09:51 Understanding Biblical Principles 14:52 The Truth About Suffering and Reliance on God 19:12 Common Misconceptions in Christianity 24:13 The Christmas Story: Myths and Realities 29:35 Lightning Round: Out of Context Scriptures Follow us on IG at MoralSupportPodcast or our personal social media accounts. https://www.facebook.com/ginger.labat https://www.facebook.com/sharamckee/

    35 min
  3. 05/02/2025

    The Bookclub Episode

    keywords reading, personal development, book recommendations, leadership, critical thinking, emotional intelligence, faith, relationships, cultural insights, growth mindset summary In this engaging conversation, Shara McKee discusses the significance of reading in personal and spiritual growth. She emphasizes that reading not only enhances knowledge and critical thinking but also fosters emotional intelligence and creativity. The discussion includes various reading formats, personal book recommendations, and insights into how literature can deepen relationships and faith. The conversation also touches on cultural reflections and the importance of cultivating resilience and critical thinking in today's society. takeaways Reading is essential for personal and leadership development.Different formats of reading (audio, digital, paper) serve different purposes.Books can introduce new ideas and perspectives.Reading enhances vocabulary and communication skills.Hope can be cultivated as a skill, not just a feeling.Understanding relationships through literature can transform interactions.Cultural insights from books can foster critical thinking.Overprotection in upbringing can lead to fragility in youth.Engaging with diverse literature can enrich faith and understanding.Joining a book club can inspire consistent reading habits.titles Chapters 00:00 The Importance of Reading 05:05 Exploring Different Reading Formats 10:12 Personal Recommendations: Transformative Reads 14:50 Understanding Relationships Through Literature 20:34 Cultivating Potential and Growth 23:00 Deepening Faith Through Reading 28:14 Cultural Reflections and Critical Thinking 31:48 Final Thoughts and Resources Follow us on IG at MoralSupportPodcast or our personal social media accounts. https://www.facebook.com/ginger.labat https://www.facebook.com/sharamckee/

    34 min
  4. 04/11/2025

    Let's Catch Up!

    keywords podcast, holidays, family traditions, travel experiences, Thanksgiving, Christmas, cultural insights, family dynamics, reconnecting, personal stories summary In this engaging conversation, Shara and Ginger reconnect after a break, sharing personal stories about their holiday experiences, family traditions, and travel adventures. They discuss the challenges of navigating family dynamics during holidays, the joy of creating new traditions, and the cultural insights gained from their travels. The conversation flows naturally, highlighting the importance of connection and adaptability in family life. takeaways The importance of reconnecting with friends after a break.Thanksgiving can be celebrated in unique ways.Family dynamics can change during holidays.Creating new traditions can be fulfilling.Travel experiences can offer valuable cultural insights.It's essential to adapt to changing family situations.Planning ahead for holiday gatherings can reduce stress.Documenting experiences helps improve future events.Celebrating Christmas can involve unconventional traditions.Traveling internationally can be both challenging and rewarding.titles Reconnecting and Reflecting on HolidaysThanksgiving: A New PerspectiveFamily Traditions: Navigating ChangeSound Bites "A lot of living's been done.""It's not a one size fits all.""We did a volunteer appreciation dinner.""We flew to New Zealand.""It's like their Chick-fil-A.""We probably should close."Chapters 00:00 Reconnecting After a Break 03:01 Thanksgiving Traditions and Changes 06:49 Navigating Family Dynamics During Holidays 10:03 Christmas Celebrations and Unique Traditions 14:08 Travel Experiences and Cultural Insights 20:00 Upcoming Events and Future Plans Follow us on IG at MoralSupportPodcast or our personal social media accounts. https://www.facebook.com/ginger.labat https://www.facebook.com/sharamckee/

    34 min
  5. 01/07/2025

    Season 2 Ep 10 Enneagram 6-9 (Part 2)

    Summary In this conversation, Shara and Ginger continue their discussion on the Enneagram personality profile. They cover types six, seven, eight, and nine, discussing their strengths, struggles, communication styles, and basic desires. They also explore the growth opportunities and potential pitfalls for each type. The conversation highlights the importance of self-awareness, embracing vulnerability, and finding balance in relationships. Keywords Enneagram, personality profile, types, strengths, struggles, communication styles, growth opportunities, potential pitfalls, self-awareness, vulnerability, balance Takeaways The Enneagram is a tool for self-awareness and understanding others.Each Enneagram type has unique strengths, struggles, and communication styles.Growth opportunities and potential pitfalls exist for every type.Embracing vulnerability and finding balance in relationships are important for personal growth.Understanding and appreciating the differences between types can lead to better communication and relationships.Titles Exploring Enneagram Types: Six, Seven, Eight, and NineEmbracing Vulnerability and Finding Balance in RelationshipsSound Bites "Six: The Loyalist - Committed, security-oriented, engaging, responsible, but also anxious and suspicious.""Seven: The Enthusiast - Joyful adventurer, chasing excitement and pleasure, always looking for new experiences and joys.""Eight: The Challenger - Powerful, dominating, self-confident, decisive, and confrontational."Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Recap 02:16 Type Six: The Loyalist 08:19 Type Seven: The Enthusiast 19:22 Type Eight: The Challenger 28:44 Type Nine: The Peacemaker Follow us on IG at MoralSupportPodcast or our personal social media accounts. https://www.facebook.com/ginger.labat https://www.facebook.com/sharamckee/

    40 min
  6. 12/03/2024

    Season 2 Ep 9 Ennegram 1-5 (Part 1)

    Summary In this conversation, Shara and Ginger delve into the Enneagram personality type system. They discuss the different types, their core desires and fears, and how understanding these types can enhance relationships and personal growth. They emphasize the importance of aligning personality tests with scripture and using them as tools for self-improvement. The conversation covers types 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5, with plans to continue discussing the remaining types in a future episode. Keywords Enneagram, personality types, self-improvement, relationships, scripture Takeaways Understanding personality types can enhance relationships and personal growth.Aligning personality tests with scripture is important for believers.The Enneagram is a complex system with nine types, each with its own core desires and fears.Knowing your type and the types of others can lead to better communication and empathy.Using personality tests as tools for self-improvement can help align character and behavior with scripture.Titles Exploring the Enneagram: Understanding Personality TypesEnhancing Relationships and Personal Growth through the EnneagramSound Bites "Enneagram is about why you do what you do""Understanding where someone's paradigm is, what it is, you can begin to communicate on a better level""Treasure the twos in your life, they are natural nurturers"Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Overview 03:08 Understanding the Enneagram: Why You Do What You Do 19:30 The Twos: Natural Nurturers 20:28 The Threes: Success-Oriented and Driven 25:49 The Fours: Embracing Uniqueness and Expressing Emotions 29:58 The Fives: Intense and Knowledge-Seeking Follow us on IG at MoralSupportPodcast or our personal social media accounts. https://www.facebook.com/ginger.labat https://www.facebook.com/sharamckee/

    39 min
  7. 11/04/2024

    Season 2 Ep 8 Generations

    Summary This conversation explores the different generations, from the Silent Generation to Gen Z, and their unique characteristics, communication styles, work preferences, and cultural influences. It emphasizes the importance of understanding and respecting the perspectives of each generation in order to effectively minister to a multi-generational church. The conversation also touches on the evolution of technology and its impact on society. The hosts discuss various slang words and phrases used by each generation, showcasing the cultural shifts and trends over time. Keywords generations, Gen X, millennials, Gen Z, cultural influences, communication styles, work preferences, technology, slang words Takeaways Understanding the characteristics and perspectives of different generations is crucial for effective ministry in a multi-generational church.Each generation has its own unique communication styles and work preferences, which should be respected and accommodated.The evolution of technology has had a significant impact on society and has shaped the way different generations interact and communicate.Slang words and phrases reflect the cultural shifts and trends of each generation and can provide insights into their values and attitudes.Titles Slang Words and Cultural Trends: Unpacking the Language of Each GenerationFrom Boomers to Gen Z: Exploring the Evolution of Technology and its Impact on SocietySound Bites "Gen Xer's for life""No matter the generation, the importance of character will help navigate every new technology""The world got much smaller with the invention of the internet"Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Generations and the Importance of Understanding Them 02:42 Exploring Micro-Generations and Overlapping Characteristics 05:25 Defining the Silent Generation, Baby Boomers, and Gen X 08:18 The Impact of Technology on Generations 15:06 The Importance of Multi-Generational Ministry 18:18 Communication Styles and Work Preferences of Different Generations 24:06 Exploring the Music and Cultural Trends of Each Generation 27:52 Unpacking Slang Words and Phrases of Each Generation 37:03 Lightning Round: Scriptures Out of Context Follow us on IG at MoralSupportPodcast or our personal social media accounts. https://www.facebook.com/ginger.labat https://www.facebook.com/sharamckee/

    39 min
4.9
out of 5
167 Ratings

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Shara and Ginger invite you to the table as they share stories, conversations, and moral support from their view as middle-aged besties. 

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