The New Maturity

Heath Brockwell

The New Maturity: Your guide to thriving after 45. Join our dynamic community exploring what it means to age authentically as an LGBTQ+ person. From relationships and wellness to career reinvention and self-discovery, each episode delivers actionable wisdom from thought leaders and community members who understand your journey. We're here to celebrate the richness of queer life in its prime, building chosen family and embracing new chapters with pride.

  1. David Roussève: Defying Death, Learning To Embrace Life

    APR 29

    David Roussève: Defying Death, Learning To Embrace Life

    David Roussève has been HIV positive since 1992, nursed back from the brink of death by his husband Connor, and survived losing that same husband to suicide in 2021 after twenty-six years together. At sixty-five, he's creating his first full-length solo performance in over twenty years, navigating Grindr and OkCupid for the first time, and asking the hardest questions about what it means to fully embrace life when you've spent decades defying death. In this conversation, David shares how a hashtag thirst trap on Instagram became the title of his new show Becoming Daddy AF, why he'd never trade his sixty-five-year-old wisdom for his twenty-five-year-old dancing ability, and what happened when he tried to relearn choreography from thirty-five years ago. He talks about growing up with a grandmother who worked as a domestic, how Princeton showed him theater could create social change, and why depth matters more than tricks when you're redefining virtuosity for an aging body. This is about grief, love that endures beyond death, and discovering that roller coaster lives can still surprise you. What We Talk About: Being HIV positive since 1992 and the paradox of defying death while struggling to embrace lifeLosing his husband Connor to suicide in 2021 and how grief transformed his understanding of loveCreating Becoming Daddy AF at sixty-five, his first full-length solo in over twenty yearsNavigating dating apps (Grindr and OkCupid) for the first time after a twenty-six-year monogamous relationshipHow a hashtag thirst trap on Instagram became a show titleRedefining virtuosity for an older body: choosing depth over technical tricksWhy community engagement beyond dance audiences sustains his workAbout David Roussève: David is a Guggenheim Fellow, distinguished professor at UCLA, and the creative force behind David Roussève/REALITY, a company combining movement, words, and visual imagery into powerful storytelling since 1988. As a gay Black choreographer, writer, and filmmaker, his work addresses AIDS, racism, homophobia, love, and loss. His performances have been presented at venues including Brooklyn Academy of Music, Jacob's Pillow, and internationally. He lives in Los Angeles. Connect with David: Website: DavidRousseve.com Instagram: @DavidRousseve Facebook: David Roussève Resources Mentioned: Becoming Daddy AF (new solo performance)David Roussève/REALITY (dance company)Brooklyn Academy of MusicPrinceton UniversityACT UP (AIDS Coalition to Unleash Power)The Alley Theatre (Houston)Connect With Us: Website: https://www.thenewmaturity.com Instagram: @thenewmaturity Newsletter: https://thenewmaturity.substack.com Email: heath@thenewmaturity.com New episodes drop every other Wednesday. Subscribe now so you never miss a conversation that might just change how you see growing older.

    31 min
  2. William Norwich: When The Phone Stops Ringing

    APR 15

    William Norwich: When The Phone Stops Ringing

    William Norwich went from washing dishes to working alongside Anna Wintour at Vogue. He was one of the first journalists publicly outed in America, survived the shame spirals of gay life in the 1970s, and learned the hard way that your job isn't your identity when the New York Daily News went on strike and his phone stopped ringing. In this conversation, William shares stories from Studio 54 to the hallways of Vogue, why he changed his name from Goldberg to Norwich, and what it means to have "no more f*cks to give" in your seventies. He talks about the brutal Publishers Weekly review that almost ended his writing career, the Fire Island moment that shaped decades of self-loathing, and why his doctor's reminder that "you're going to die someday" was actually the best health advice he ever received. This is about transformation, survival, and discovering that the lustfulness and freedom of older years might be life's greatest gift. What We Talk About: The Fire Island moment: "I wish you looked like that" and decades of self-loathingBeing publicly outed in Outweek magazine over the Malcolm Forbes coverageWorking with Anna Wintour and her exceptional management styleWhen the phone stopped ringing during the Daily News strikeGetting sober in 1996 and deciding "f*ck shame"Having no more f*cks to give at seventyWhy his doctor telling him "you're going to die someday" was liberatingAbout William Norwich: William Norwich is a writer, editor, and novelist whose career has spanned decades at Vogue, The New York Times, and Town & Country. He currently serves as commissioning editor for fashion and interior design at Phaidon Press. His novels include Learning to Drive and he has been a fixture in New York media since the Studio 54 era. He lives in New York City. Connect with William: Instagram: @WilliamNorwich Resources Mentioned: Learning to Drive (novel by William Norwich)Own It by Diane von Furstenberg (Phaidon)Outweek magazinePublishers WeeklyThe Devil Wears PradaFiorucciStudio 54New York Daily NewsVogueConnect With Us: Website: https://www.thenewmaturity.com Instagram: @thenewmaturity Newsletter: https://thenewmaturity.substack.com Email: heath@thenewmaturity.com New episodes drop every other Wednesday. Subscribe now so you never miss a conversation that might just change how you see growing older.

    40 min
  3. Peter Som: When Closing a Business Opens Everything Else

    APR 1

    Peter Som: When Closing a Business Opens Everything Else

    Fashion designer Peter Som went from dressing celebrities on red carpets to roasting carrots alone after the Met Gala. When his runway business closed in 2015, he found himself in a Chelsea movie theater at 10am on a Wednesday, wondering how he got there. The answer came in the form of noodles, his grandmother's secret recipe notebook, and a complete reimagining of what success could mean. In this conversation, Peter shares how cooking became his lifeline during crisis, why "have you eaten?" was never really about food, and what it means to become a beginner again in your 40s. His new cookbook Family Style is a meditation on chosen family, Chinese-American heritage, and the creative confidence that comes from trusting your instincts—whether you're designing clothes or roasting vegetables. What We Talk About: Finding his grandmother's hidden 20-year recipe collection and the creative life she lived in secret The loneliness of closing a fashion business and those 10am movie theater moments Why the Met Gala carrots mattered more than the red carpet "Have you eaten?" as a love language in Chinese culture How latchkey kid afternoons shaped his creative confidence Knowing he was gay in 5th grade and fashion as a world of freedom Reinvention as expansion, not abandonment Why success got quieter as he got older About Peter Som:  Peter Som is a fashion designer, lifestyle expert, and author of Family Style: Recipes for Connection, Community & Togetherness. His eponymous fashion line dressed everyone from Michelle Obama to First Ladies of fashion, earning him accolades from Vogue and beyond. After his runway business closed, he returned to his roots in food, honoring his grandmother's legacy while building a new creative chapter. He lives in New York City. Connect with Peter:  Website: PeterSom.com  Instagram: @PeterSom Buy the Book: Family Style: Recipes for Connection, Community & Togetherness available wherever books are sold Resources Mentioned: Family Style cookbook by Peter Som Met Gala Chelsea Cinema (now closed) Connect With Us: Website: https://www.thenewmaturity.com Instagram: @thenewmaturity Newsletter: https://thenewmaturity.substack.com Email: heath@thenewmaturity.com New episodes drop every other Wednesday. Subscribe now so you never miss a conversation that might just change how you see growing older.

    25 min
  4. Dr. Joe Eviatar - From Fixing Faces to Finding Purpose

    09/10/2025

    Dr. Joe Eviatar - From Fixing Faces to Finding Purpose

    This week we welcome Dr. Joe Eviatar, who spent 30 years as a highly respected oculofacial plastic surgeon before experiencing a profound pandemic awakening. At 63, he traded his medical practice for life coaching, launching Best Face Forward Coaching to help clients—particularly gay men—embrace aging with radical self-acceptance. Episode Highlights: Joe's groundbreaking work with AIDS patients suffering from facial lipoatrophy in the 90s The pandemic moment when he realized he felt like a "drug pusher" Why patients asking to look like celebrities became his breaking point The mirror technique: rewiring your brain for self-love in two minutes daily Unique challenges gay men face aging without elder role models His complete career pivot at 60—from doctor to life coaching certification Joe’s six pillars of wellness and finding peace  Discover how a doctor who helped people chase youth learned to champion authenticity, why perfectionism plagues the LGBTQ+ community, and how neuroplasticity can transform your relationship with your reflection. Connect With Dr. Joe: Website: https://www.bestfaceforwardcoaching.com Connect With Us: Website: https://www.thenewmaturity.com Instagram: @thenewmaturity Newsletter: https://thenewmaturity.substack.com Email: heath@thenewmaturity.com New episodes drop every other Wednesday. Subscribe now so you never miss a conversation that might just change how you see growing older.

    28 min

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The New Maturity: Your guide to thriving after 45. Join our dynamic community exploring what it means to age authentically as an LGBTQ+ person. From relationships and wellness to career reinvention and self-discovery, each episode delivers actionable wisdom from thought leaders and community members who understand your journey. We're here to celebrate the richness of queer life in its prime, building chosen family and embracing new chapters with pride.

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